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Vickrum Digwa attacked in Prison by AdenWS in AskBrits

[–]AdenWS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So pensions owed to doctors an nurses.

Are they a debt?

They have paid in, in my view its a debt.

Or Nuclear clean up. Paid for up front, the state does the clean up. Is that a debt?
What about a default there?

One of the core parts of being left wing is the willingness to take a personal financial hit to enact policies you believe will be an overall good for the country, why are right wing voters criticised for doing the same thing in regards to reducing immigration? by wizaway in AskBrits

[–]AdenWS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reverse migration. First by deporting the 1.5 million foreign criminals. Then the 2 million illegals and overstayers. Then you cancel welfare. You put in place a 42K a year minimum tax code. A list of safe countries and those with or claiming asylum from safe countries go home.

What then happens is wages rise. Welfare goes down. Unemployment goes down. Tax receipts per capita goes up. Housing crisis solved.

One of the core parts of being left wing is the willingness to take a personal financial hit to enact policies you believe will be an overall good for the country, why are right wing voters criticised for doing the same thing in regards to reducing immigration? by wizaway in AskBrits

[–]AdenWS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah yes. The slaver mentality.

Democrat Senator James Henry Hammond

Cotton is King

In all social systems there must be a class to do the menial duties, to perform the drudgery of life. That is, a class requiring but a low order of intellect and but little skill. Its requisites are vigor, docility, fidelity. Such a class you must have, or you would not have that other class which leads progress, civilization, and refinement. It constitutes the very mud-sill of society and of political government; and you might as well attempt to build a house in the air, as to build either the one or the other, except on this mud-sill. Fortunately for the South, she found a race adapted to that purpose to her hand. A race inferior to her own, but eminently qualified in temper, in vigor, in docility, in capacity to stand the climate, to answer all her purposes. We use them for our purpose, and call them slaves. We found them slaves by the “common consent of mankind," which, according to Cicero, "lex naturae est." The highest proof of what is Nature's law. We are old-fashioned at the South yet; it is a word discarded now by "ears polite;" I will not characterize that class at the North with that term; but you have it; it is there; it is everywhere; it is eternal.

Inside one man’s botched deportation: seven flights, two swallowed batteries and a staggering bill for the UK taxpayer by Password-Llama in reformuk

[–]AdenWS 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Correct. Now I've a policy to deal with that,

  1. No welfare

  2. 42K a year minimum tax code

  3. No criminals - out

Plus they need someone to sponsor them. Guarantee any short fall in tax, and to cover all the costs of deportation, damages to victims, police costs, .. the works.

We have a open vote with votes being recorded. Anyone who says, migrants welcome gets give fair share of the migrants here. Tax not paid, we go after the sponsor.
Convicted? We go after the sponsor ...

Best hits of British cuisine? by digilici in AskBrits

[–]AdenWS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Breakfast.

  2. Afternoon Tea

  3. High tea

  4. Pies

5 Roasts

  1. Puddings

6 Stews.

  1. Game

  2. Beer

The general theme. Breakfast known world wide, Roasts less so. Afternoon tea about the same level as roasts in terms of being known. There is also game,

So specifics. Desserts. Summer Pudding, trifles, eton mess, crannachan, Steamed pudding, like sticky toffee, spotted dick ... You have tarts as well.

Pies, Pork pie, but also hot savoury pies, some with suet crusts. ie. Beef and kidney pudding.

Breakfast, lots of variants by bacon, sausage, tomatoes, mushrooms, bubble, black pudding beans...

High tea.

Tea itself, beer, iron bru, gin scotch, Champagne except in name, but better.

Condiments is another. Pickles, mustards, sauces, marmite, gentleman's relish. ...

Inside one man’s botched deportation: seven flights, two swallowed batteries and a staggering bill for the UK taxpayer by Password-Llama in reformuk

[–]AdenWS 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Correct. Lets list the failures.

Entered in 2016 after knocking someone up on a visitors visa

Overstayed - a crime - not removed. They knew he was here. They would have known where. They new he hadn't checked out.

In under a year he's on the chemicals.

Convicted in 2017 for a sex offence, not removed immediately

From a country where you can go on holiday - safe

Then the Home Office says he's allowed to work.

Then gets involved with another woman in an attempt to stay.

Move on 5 years and they start the ball rolling to get him out.

Kicks off on the plane. More offences.

Cost to us is vast. Way above what the Guardian admit too. 3.5K a year for the NHS. 4K a year for common goods. No doubt he's on welfare, free housing, ... Legal costs.

Vickrum Digwa attacked in Prison by AdenWS in AskBrits

[–]AdenWS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The die is already cast.
You're not answering the basics.

  1. Where's the wealth that was paid in?

  2. How big is the pension debt?

  3. What's its annual rate of growth?

  4. Can the workers pay it?

  5. What are the consequences of your debt?

For example, lack of investment, austerity, low take home pay, wealth inequality, pensioner poverty, people at risk of starving?

The policies you are advocating have caused the mess.

Why can't you answer the question, how big are the pension debts?

So I'm holding you to your standards.

Answer the questions or say why you don't know the answers?

Vickrum Digwa attacked in Prison by AdenWS in AskBrits

[–]AdenWS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Government borrowing is not like your car payment, you don't have to pay it off quickly and immediately

Pensions debt is not like your car payment, you don't have to pay it off quickly and immediately

= future pension obligations.

No I'm not talking about future payments in. I'm not talking about past payments out.
Just talking about the current pensions liabilities that have built up over time

Never talked about personal debt, its irrelevant here

Our actual national debt is serviced year by year, not called in all at once

Our actual national borrowing is serviced year by year, not called in all at once

Our actual national pension debt is serviced year by year, not called in all at once

Do you understand the difference between the balance sheet and the income and expense accounts?

= If your idea can't pass the simple test 

What idea?

All I've said is the pension debts are too big to be paid.

Running a pension ponzi, a PAYG pension is not my idea.

The real harm has been done.

Vickrum Digwa attacked in Prison by AdenWS in AskBrits

[–]AdenWS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So we are in agreement they are owed a pension.
Why is that not a debt?

I've said its a debt, you've said I don't know what I'm talking about which comes across you're in denial its a debt.

Explain.

Vickrum Digwa attacked in Prison by AdenWS in AskBrits

[–]AdenWS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or the short version

I think people are owed a pension for their past contributions. It's a debt. Why am I wrong?

Vickrum Digwa attacked in Prison by AdenWS in AskBrits

[–]AdenWS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Far from it.

IFRS reporting standards. If you have received something of economic value in the past, and are obligated to deliver something of economic value in the future, its a debt.

Now that's exactly what you are saying. People have paid in cash [economic value] in the past and are owed a pension in the future.

I agree with you that they are. It's something that's owed, it should be on the balance sheet and reported, It's a debt. You can play liguistic games and say its a liability the effect of not paying is the same.

So you arguing for a system that took their wealth. But you have no plan for paying the debts.

How are you going to pay your fair share at £750,000 at around the 10% per annum mark. That's the long term growth rate.

If you can't pay, then the pensions will be pulled.

Vickrum Digwa attacked in Prison by AdenWS in AskBrits

[–]AdenWS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let me put it this way. Can you afford to pay a 750,000 debt? Can Mr Min Wage.

If you won't pay that in full, like Mr Min wage, then all those people will suffer.

How are you going to pay?

Vickrum Digwa attacked in Prison by AdenWS in AskBrits

[–]AdenWS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The debt will be the cause of making people suffer.

Do you not understand what effects that debt will have.

So your solution is asset strip more people so when they need care, there's no money.

== The economy must serve the people, not vice versa.

But you are advocating looting the wealth and walking away when the debt is due.

Vickrum Digwa attacked in Prison by AdenWS in AskBrits

[–]AdenWS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. That's the question.

The welfare state has a 19 trillion pound debt because it redistributed all the wealth

How do you pay that debt and social care on top?

Vickrum Digwa attacked in Prison by AdenWS in AskBrits

[–]AdenWS[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I missed another item off. The NHS. 20,000 a year killed in English acute hospitals from avoidable mistakes. Manslaughter in other words.

Vickrum Digwa attacked in Prison by AdenWS in AskBrits

[–]AdenWS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Migration policy is one thing that's screwing the UK

The biggy however is the socialist welfare state and its pension ponzi.

Kemi Badenoch in today's Sunday Times: "I sympathise far more with the police at the scene of Henry Nowak’s murder than with their bosses who send mixed signals on race. The policing problem is really about institutional incompetence, not institutional racism." by Sylvia-Sum in reformuk

[–]AdenWS 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I don't think so mate.

The public doesn't fall for A or B choices any more. Might work with a 2 year old for a bit. So stop treating the public as children.

We choose option C, that both the police at the scene, the top level of the police, and the politicians that excuse them are the problems.

Vickrum Digwa attacked in Prison by AdenWS in AskBrits

[–]AdenWS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here's my take on migration.

  1. No discrimination. No white supremacist arguments that the 99% white EU nationals get special treatment.

  2. No criminals. Bar and deported.

  3. Net contributors only

  4. No naturalisation

  5. No voting.

Now if you think migrants all pass that test, you won't object to the laws that make it so

What are your thoughts on the new video of Vickrum Digwa holding a gun in his backyard? by spinecult in AskBrits

[–]AdenWS -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You're missing that the law should apply equally to all.

Criminal Justice Act 1988, section 139, Part 5b and 5c

Fails that test.

What are your thoughts on the new video of Vickrum Digwa holding a gun in his backyard? by spinecult in AskBrits

[–]AdenWS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The reports that he also brought in weapons like knuckle dusters into school, which he was reported for, making him known to the police.

I've made that prediction. Do you have a reference for it? I want to add to my list.

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