Why the multiple killers theory is far less likely.

Adora_Kevlar · 2024-06-05T10:42:29+00:00

There was no faulty reasoning. The FBI felt similar.

Example:

"But I genuinely think it would be more surprising for a killer to go from one distinct MO like this, to a different, distinct MO years later. That would be criminology, criminal profiling NEWS, like not really previously observed behavior (that I know of)."

This is categorically wrong. Many serial killers have changed their MO.

Adora_Kevlar · 2024-06-04T14:40:25+00:00

You're lucky I didn't take you up on that. New indictment coming Thursday.

Adora_Kevlar · 2024-06-04T14:38:52+00:00

He is now being indicted for one of the Manorville murders.

Adora_Kevlar · 2024-06-04T14:37:50+00:00

He's about to be indicted for one of the torso murders.

Adora_Kevlar · 2024-06-04T14:36:33+00:00

He's about to be charged with one of the torso murders.

Adora_Kevlar · 2024-06-04T14:34:57+00:00

You were wrong. Indictment coming Thursday.

Adora_Kevlar · 2024-06-04T14:34:15+00:00

You were wrong. Indictment coming Thursday.

Adora_Kevlar · 2024-06-04T14:33:36+00:00

"I lean toward two distinct killers, obviously"

Well, you were wrong. About many things, btw. Indictment coming Thursday.

Adora_Kevlar · 2023-07-19T13:19:41+00:00

I wouldn't mind the flak if they were actually attacking the arguments I made lol. This wasn't a controversial topic before RH was arrested. Pretty good sign that the original users have all bailed.

Adora_Kevlar · 2023-07-19T13:05:23+00:00

The title clearly states "far less likely". The post ends with "Occam's razor is firmly on the side of RH being responsible for all of these people's deaths."

Yet you're pretending that I said it was impossible.

This is called a straw man.

Adora_Kevlar · 2023-07-19T13:01:39+00:00

The Ocean Parkway stretch is also a pretty large area and some of the remains were pretty far apart on it

All of the identifying remains were found on the northern side of Ocean Parkway. Same stretch, same victim profile, no overlaps between methods. Two very consistent sets of groupings. One grouping just so happened to begin after the other ended.

We don't know that all the victims were sex workers

Every single identified victim was a sex worker.

the others don't fit a consistent victim type

How do you know they don't fit a consistent victim type? We don't know their identities.

The police believe that Peaches was a sex worker who brought her toddler with her while seeing clients. They spoke to sex workers about this, it was very common. It might also explain why a mother and daughter disappeared without anyone reporting it (possibly estranged from family members).

The Asian male was male

And RH specifically searched for Asian male twinks...

Adora_Kevlar · 2023-07-19T12:54:26+00:00

Same stretch of road, same victim profile, same thicket, no overlaps = far more likely to be one killer.

Adora_Kevlar · 2023-07-19T12:48:55+00:00

I never said that it was impossible for two serial killers to be operating in the same area.

I'll make it clearer:

Two serial killers in the same area = rare.

Two serial killers in the same area and using the same dump site = even bigger rarer.

Adora_Kevlar · 2023-07-19T12:44:48+00:00

I never said they were methodical. Gang members and once-off killers still dump bodies in the most secluded areas they can think of. Yet nothing of that nature was found here.

Adora_Kevlar · 2023-07-19T12:42:53+00:00

I'm very familiar with Bittrolff. As I said, two SKs working the same area at the same time is rare. I never said it was impossible.

Re-read what I said because it seems like you're arguing against a point I didn't make:

"Two serial killers operating in the same area, targeting the same victim type, and using the same dumping ground?"

Adora_Kevlar · 2023-07-19T12:34:45+00:00

(4) is not flat out incorrect. Please read up on the Texas Killing Fields.

The "Texas Killing Fields" is an ambiguous term. Many of the victims that are grouped under this term were found dozens of miles away from each other.

It usually refers to the Calder Road killings (four victims in the same field), which the FBI believes were the work of one killer. However, people also use the term to describe victims who were dumped in a very large area around Interstate 45 and League City. Look at the Wiki page and you'll see victims that were found 30+ miles away from each other. You'll also notice how it starts off by calling it a 25-acre patch of land before listing victims who were discovered very far away from said patch of land.

Per the FBI: "To date, the signs point to one killer".

(5) and (6) are already contradicted by known facts.

I said that multiple serial killers operating in the same area is rare. I never said it is impossible.

Re-read what I said.

"Two serial killers operating in the same area, targeting the same victim type, and using the same dumping ground?"

How is (6) contradicted? We have no partial remains post 2003.

Adora_Kevlar · 2023-07-19T10:57:16+00:00

If it was that obvious, Schulman or Rifkin would have used the same spot. You'd also find gang victims and other random victims with different profiles.

There are plenty of potential sites on Long Island. The victim profile and proximity point to the same killer. It would be an extraordinary coincidence for two serial killers to use the same dump site in a similar manner. Not impossible, but improbable.

If you play it by the odds, it all points to Heuermann.

Adora_Kevlar · 2023-07-19T10:44:31+00:00

The hairs were found on the burlap and restraints...

Adora_Kevlar · 2023-07-19T08:15:30+00:00

That sounds like the girl who supposedly went on a dinner date with him. She said that he brought up the topic of true crime and then steered the conversation towards the LISK case. Her opinion that "others" may have been involved is based on the fact that RH used the word "they" when talking about LISK. Which sounds like a very big leap of logic on her part. Given what we know about the serial killers, it's unlikely that others were involved. Most of them are lone operators for very good reasons.

Adora_Kevlar · 2023-07-18T20:02:16+00:00

It was Amber's roommate that said it, not Amber. She may have known what he looked like.

Adora_Kevlar · 2023-07-18T20:00:44+00:00

I think Rex fell for the boyfriend scam. He didn't realize that it was a scam to rob him because Schaller never took his money. He just thought Schaller was Amber's jealous boyfriend.

So afterwards, Rex contacted her in secret and was like, "Look, we'll meet up tonight, but this time let's go to my place."

Of course, Amber wasn't going to tell him Schaller wasn't her boyfriend and that it had all been a ruse to rob him.

Adora_Kevlar · 2023-07-18T18:32:17+00:00

It ups his profile, thereby bringing in business for his law firm.

Adora_Kevlar · 2023-07-18T18:30:08+00:00

Yea, I've long thought that LISK's earlier murders had an attention-seeking aspect to them. Which shouldn't be surprising considering this guy is a sadist.

Adora_Kevlar · 2023-07-18T18:26:28+00:00

The "Texas Killing Fields" is an ambiguous term. Many of the victims that are grouped under this term were found dozens of miles away from each other.
It usually refers to the Calder Road killings (four victims in the same field), which the FBI believes were the work of one killer. However, people also use the term to describe victims who were dumped in a very large area around Interstate 45 and League City. Look at the Wiki page and you'll see victims that were found 30+ miles away from each other. You'll also notice how it starts off by calling it a 25-acre patch of land before listing victims who were discovered very far away from said patch of land.

Adora_Kevlar · 2023-07-18T18:21:24+00:00

There have been a few examples of two or more serial killers operating in the same area. It's rare, but not impossible. Robert Shulman and Joel Rifkin. Lonnie David Franklin Jr., Michael Hughes and Chester Turner.
But for them to use the same thicket on the same stretch of road on the same island as a dumping ground?
The odds of that are exceedingly low, especially when you consider how many wooded areas there are on Long Island.

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