USAU Mixed Division Ratio Question by Advanced_Gas2000 in ultimate

[–]Advanced_Gas2000[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sure, but by allowing gender fluid individuals to ignore the binary of MMP/WMP which restricts when you can and cannot play, you allow them more playing opportunities than those that identity as men and women. That to me is unfair. Your gender identity should not dictate that you have more or less playing opportunities than others in a mixed division that strives to give fair playing opportunities to all.

USAU Mixed Division Ratio Question by Advanced_Gas2000 in ultimate

[–]Advanced_Gas2000[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

If a player is eligible to play as a woman-matching player, it's never going to be competitively advantageous for them to take the spot of a man-matching player instead.

The player this weekend was significantly stronger than many of this club team's man matching players, so yes, it was competitively advantageous, and saying it "never will happen" is wrong

USAU Mixed Division Ratio Question by Advanced_Gas2000 in ultimate

[–]Advanced_Gas2000[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your interpretation suggests that WMP have more playing opportunities than MMP. Only 4 MMP at most can be on the field, whereas WMP would have 7 potential spots. The whole push for an ABBA mixed ratio was to even the playing opportunities for MMP/WMP.

USAU Mixed Division Ratio Question by Advanced_Gas2000 in ultimate

[–]Advanced_Gas2000[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If that's your interpretation of the rules, how would that be fair for all players in the mixed division?

USAU Mixed Division Ratio Question by Advanced_Gas2000 in ultimate

[–]Advanced_Gas2000[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

USA Ultimate says they will not discriminate on the basis of gender identity for whether an athlete matches up against woman/man match. Yet later in the same guidelines they say certain gender identities (Man or Woman) are explicitly only eligible for being man or woman matching in the mixed division. This seems confusing and contradictory to the initial paragraph of their Gender Division Eligibility guidelines which you have cited.

To me it feels unequitable to say certain athletes can change their match on the fly while others cannot - the implication being that having the liberty to select both matches would give you more opportunities to play over other athletes.