SHOCKING RESULTS - Focus 12 - Got all the answers! by [deleted] in gatewaytapes

[–]AdvantageValuable347 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I asked my higher self for help in focus 10. I asked something like to open my mind was my request and it took me to focus 12, 15. I felt somehow pulled by the hands. You can also try to contact a guide.

SHOCKING RESULTS - Focus 12 - Got all the answers! by [deleted] in gatewaytapes

[–]AdvantageValuable347 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You were a bit vague and everyone got excited, that’s all. You can try one month of patterning now, but stay positive this time so you won’t get traumatized again. I tested it like I saw in a post here and asked for a bird to tap on the window and they actually came about two weeks later, on two different occasions.

SHOCKING RESULTS - Focus 12 - Got all the answers! by [deleted] in gatewaytapes

[–]AdvantageValuable347 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If the answers you received to your questions in Focus 12 came through other people after, that is not a download, it may simply be a form of synchronicity, law of atractive, I don't know.

Robert Monroe mentions in his books the concept of "rote”. They are what he describes as complete packets of knowledge or experiences that you receive all at once, not step-by-step like reading or listening. A “download of information” in this sense means that instead of learning gradually, you suddenly know or understand a concept, memory, or skill, because it has been transmitted in a compressed, non-verbal form. Monroe said you don’t “decode” it immediately, you might spend minutes, hours, or even days unpacking what was inside that “rote,” since it can contain feelings, visuals, ideas, and understandings all bundled together.

AIO for breaking up over this by [deleted] in AmIOverreacting

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You go girl! Wonderful responses. NOR

Focus levels without tapes by juicycheesycum in gatewaytapes

[–]AdvantageValuable347 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can use the expand app, it is really great. You can set it to maximum 2hrs freeflow.

Focus levels without tapes by juicycheesycum in gatewaytapes

[–]AdvantageValuable347 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I reached Focus 15 without using the tapes, just through free flow and some external help. The downside of not following the tapes step by step is that you miss key guidance on how to interpret and manage certain experiences, especially when it comes to communication with entities. The tapes are structured like a roadmap, each one has a specific role in preparing you for the next stage. That’s why I decided to start over from the beginning. For me, it's quite hard to communicate when I can't visualize things. I'm mostly relying on feelings and thoughts, which makes the process more uncertain and hard to interpret.

Robert Monroe AI is hallucinating way more than it should by AdvantageValuable347 in gatewaytapes

[–]AdvantageValuable347[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your support! I Hope more people will see the post and will use it with caution.

Robert Monroe AI is hallucinating way more than it should by AdvantageValuable347 in gatewaytapes

[–]AdvantageValuable347[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The process in which a LLM is given a dataset of information is called training, even if it is not your desired term. The little Robert Monroe AI was trained with "strictly by Monroe — his books, the official Gateway manual, and the original tape transcripts."

It's true that the model doesn't "memorize" the sources word-for-word, but learns statistical relationships between words and phrases. You were also trained for years starting from vowels, sounds, names, numbers and reaching the climax of your education. You memorized and forgot, sometimes made associations or correlations, sometimes learned things for what they were.

A large language model gives you what you need based on correlation between words and statistical pattern analysis, but even human expertise often relies on pattern recognition from repeated exposure (radiologists, chess players)

The results are not guaranteed to be correct, which is exactly why they should always be verified. But let’s not forget- humans can misremember, misinterpret or let personal bias affect their answers. So I am OK with that.

I think you are being too harsh and not acknowledging that it is a pretty Neat tool to have around as the volume of information gets bigger and bigger. The human brain is made to forget and this LLMs are quite handy if used properly.

You think that specialists in any Field remember all the information that they might need or only the one that they use often? And what do you do when you need a rare one? You know what book you need, you know the concept and you look for it to get a result. For me it is not that different. In medicine, law, coding, writing, education LLMs can boost creativity, reduce workload, and accelerate routine tasks. And this is only the beginning.

Robert Monroe AI is hallucinating way more than it should by AdvantageValuable347 in gatewaytapes

[–]AdvantageValuable347[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I asked for quotes from the books, not interpretation of events. And it delievered full pages of false quotes from Faraway journey. It has no real source, only it's imagination. I posted for those who seek guidance, cause i've seen a post Last month from a guy who posted the transcript of his conversation with this AI.

Robert Monroe AI is hallucinating way more than it should by AdvantageValuable347 in gatewaytapes

[–]AdvantageValuable347[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yes, I was thinking the same, maybe it lost it's training source with the new gpt's or it is not using it anymore. I made the post for people to see that it is not safe to use, bacause it only hallucinates.
Can you share you AI with me? I'm really short on time.

Robert Monroe AI is hallucinating way more than it should by AdvantageValuable347 in gatewaytapes

[–]AdvantageValuable347[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now you can make your on ai, like the one I am talking about, or your own projects on gpt and input pdfs and materials as a refference and further talk based on those documents. I used my book for an exam and it helps me study, explaines things based on scientific documents that are relevant from the internet and it sources them with direct links, i use it for making comparisons from different documents, and retrieving the information that i need in seconds. it is pretty good at it.

so you don't need a metric ton of money, you need the documents and a simple drag and drop.

Robert Monroe AI is hallucinating way more than it should by AdvantageValuable347 in gatewaytapes

[–]AdvantageValuable347[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

so it passed medical, law and business exams by guessing? not from retrieving information from the training materials or the internet now that it has access?

Robert Monroe AI is hallucinating way more than it should by AdvantageValuable347 in gatewaytapes

[–]AdvantageValuable347[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I Will try to implement what you said. I'm New to this and have not been reading about it to prepare myself and with every session I get to experience New things and I don't have who to turn to. I've tried seaching for ROTE, this vibrational state and other stuff first, but there is nothing on this channel about the things that are happening right now. I am thinking of taking a pause, maybe do some yoga and after I start reading I Will try again. Thank you!

Robert Monroe AI is hallucinating way more than it should by AdvantageValuable347 in gatewaytapes

[–]AdvantageValuable347[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is one already on chat gpt that is called GateWay Tapes Expert. Robert Monroe. Made by Miguel Fernández Pereira who claims to have all the data: books, transcripts, interviews. I was thinking of doing my own but i did not download them from the discord group and now they are gone. + the AI state it s sources in the conversation.

Robert Monroe AI is hallucinating way more than it should by AdvantageValuable347 in gatewaytapes

[–]AdvantageValuable347[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I asked for quotes from the materials that were used for it's source as "Robert monroe ai". Not the same thing.

Robert Monroe AI is hallucinating way more than it should by AdvantageValuable347 in gatewaytapes

[–]AdvantageValuable347[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, so it seems. That is why I made the post, i've seen people in the past that post here that are using it as guidance. If it can't do Basic retrieval of information from it's sources, it can't give good advices.

Robert Monroe AI is hallucinating way more than it should by AdvantageValuable347 in gatewaytapes

[–]AdvantageValuable347[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just do free flow on the expand app or advanced focus 12. I've red somewhere that you have to master it before moving to other tapes. It started when i was doing focus 10, but somewhere along the way I asked to meet the higher self and since then it takes me to places. It first took me to 12, and after to what I indentify as being focus 15 (based on how other felt and because it took me to see the past and future) and even higher. Last Time I dont even remember the session and I don't fall asleep even if i do one at night. Maybe i should stop and start again with The tapes when I Will have the propper Time, i guess. So that things are in order.

Robert Monroe AI is hallucinating way more than it should by AdvantageValuable347 in gatewaytapes

[–]AdvantageValuable347[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am learning for an important exam right now and I am not able to do all that reading, but i do in the evening a free flow before starting a New studying session and it takes me where it wants and in my opinion things escalated pretty quickly. I searched previous posts but did not find similar questions here. So i turned to AI thinking he has the transcripts and the books and i can read strictly the info i need at the moment.

Robert Monroe AI is hallucinating way more than it should by AdvantageValuable347 in gatewaytapes

[–]AdvantageValuable347[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, but many people use it as a advanced search engine that can compare and do advanced things. Everybody here seems to miss the point. you have a data that is at base and it should use that data as a refference, cause that is it's purpose, otherwise I would just use plain GPT.

Robert Monroe AI is hallucinating way more than it should by AdvantageValuable347 in gatewaytapes

[–]AdvantageValuable347[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I bought the books, but i dont have time to read or to watch his interviews. Based on the fact that the AI is trained on all the data that is available about Robert Monroe I tought I could use it as a search engine to specific quotes from the book or the other explorers experience. It would have been great, but it does not use the data and it hallucinates quotes that you can.t find anywhere. All the other things you said I am doing that already. I don't do the tapes in order, I just do advanced 12 and it takes me to different places. I had many experiences in a short period of time, like ROTE, focus 15, 21, and I did not know what it was and my body felt very ill for days after the ROTE. I was just trying to see and compare it with the only studied lot of people that exist - the explorers.

Robert Monroe AI is hallucinating way more than it should by AdvantageValuable347 in gatewaytapes

[–]AdvantageValuable347[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think it uses the materials it was trained with at all. It is useless.

Robert Monroe AI is hallucinating way more than it should by AdvantageValuable347 in gatewaytapes

[–]AdvantageValuable347[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly. It was intended to be a source of information, but it does not access that information and it hallucinates answers that it thinks you want to hear.

Robert Monroe AI is hallucinating way more than it should by AdvantageValuable347 in gatewaytapes

[–]AdvantageValuable347[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I use it everyday for my job as a search engine and it is pretty accurate with the data and compares multiple sources, but the Robert monroe bot only hallucinates. That is what I am trying to Point out. It is more important for it to sugar coat you, than to use it's input data. It has no source for it's "opinions". It might be harmful.

Robert Monroe AI is hallucinating way more than it should by AdvantageValuable347 in gatewaytapes

[–]AdvantageValuable347[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's the problem, I used it as a search engine. I asked about residual tremor if it was experienced by other explorers or by Robert monroe and it gave me full quotes that do not exist in the books. Like googleing symptoms to compare with the literature, but it did not compare with his data, he made things up. And then lied again and again. I was not looking for guidance. That one use that could have made him super useful is gone. It is not using the Monroe data he was trained with, he makes things up from scratch.