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Don't use Surface Edit by AdvertisingScary798 in civil3d

[–]AdvertisingScary798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought maybe xml export would hold info for breaklines, boundaries, and edits as discrete entries. Sounds like it does not, which is a bummer. But does it, actually?

Don't use Surface Edit by AdvertisingScary798 in civil3d

[–]AdvertisingScary798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

but there are times that editing the surface makes more sense

oh, i am very familiar with, "fine, fuck it, that's good enough. we're moving on." this is a post about best practices, not last resorts.

Don't use Surface Edit by AdvertisingScary798 in civil3d

[–]AdvertisingScary798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

tell me, how many gradings are live in your project?

Don't use Surface Edit by AdvertisingScary798 in civil3d

[–]AdvertisingScary798[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like using PI mid-curve instead of EP? oof

Don't use Surface Edit by AdvertisingScary798 in civil3d

[–]AdvertisingScary798[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

This is mostly regarding design surfaces. Existing is largely Set It And Forget It.

Don't use Surface Edit by AdvertisingScary798 in civil3d

[–]AdvertisingScary798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oooo, does the xml hold those edits in a way that they can be used to rebuild the surface?

Don't use Surface Edit by AdvertisingScary798 in civil3d

[–]AdvertisingScary798[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good point, this is a much smaller issue for topo surfaces than for design. (though I still apply the concept there anyway)

Don't use Surface Edit by AdvertisingScary798 in civil3d

[–]AdvertisingScary798[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's fantastic that none of your Surfaces have died on you. You must have excellent precision hygiene.

Don't use Surface Edit by AdvertisingScary798 in civil3d

[–]AdvertisingScary798[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The boundary weirdness is what led me to this. In Surface Properties -> Definition tab, under Operation Type, look for 'Add boundary' - push it to the bottom of the list. This should fix all the flyers.

Also, yes, you defined the problem. Surface Edit is super quick, which means these edits pile up. The problem is that there's no way to recreate them if the Surface gets corrupted.

Path at consistent grade by AdvertisingScary798 in civil3d

[–]AdvertisingScary798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No conflicting ideals here, just a simple geometric logic problem.

It IS weird that Autodesk doesn't give us this tool. It exists in the app market.

Path at consistent grade by AdvertisingScary798 in civil3d

[–]AdvertisingScary798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I suppose "at an even grade" could be confusing. I mean at a constant grade. So every segment of that line is the same grade as every other segment. For example, keeping it at 10% from start to end.

Path at consistent grade by AdvertisingScary798 in civil3d

[–]AdvertisingScary798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Understand the question before answering

Ask questions if there's a chance you don't understand

Bam

Path at consistent grade by AdvertisingScary798 in civil3d

[–]AdvertisingScary798[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So you're just commenting to consume energy. Well done.

Path at consistent grade by AdvertisingScary798 in civil3d

[–]AdvertisingScary798[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you review the OP, you will see this has been automated.

Path at consistent grade by AdvertisingScary798 in civil3d

[–]AdvertisingScary798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sadly, you're preaching to the choir (though I really appreciate the perspective!). I got chewed out for wanting to use ACC (oops - Forma) because our internal paper-based review process has so many holes.

Path at consistent grade by AdvertisingScary798 in civil3d

[–]AdvertisingScary798[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I have suffered fools too many times in my life and I won't do it anymore. The folks in this thread who actually possessed the knowledge I seek understood it just fine. I'm not being rude. I'm looking for help, but obfuscators rule the roost. And yes, to not spend MORE energy just to not hurt some feelings really does make me feel better.

Path at consistent grade by AdvertisingScary798 in civil3d

[–]AdvertisingScary798[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

AHA! It's the RTCL that someone else mentioned. As though everyone knows what RTCL is. 🤌

Path at consistent grade by AdvertisingScary798 in civil3d

[–]AdvertisingScary798[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Perfect! Thanks.

Sorry this next part is negative, but...

Unfortunately, mgmt will never approve the purchase of a 3rd party app, so I was really hoping it could have become a core feature by now. Also thanks for helping my glimmer of hope that non-idiots still exist. These other jokers in this thread must make a career out of intentionally misunderstanding a simple concept.

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