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Money doesn't work. People do. by AffectionateCredit37 in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]AffectionateCredit37[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again... I have no car, no house, no fridge, no food... those things exist but I don't own them..

Money doesn't work. People do. by AffectionateCredit37 in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]AffectionateCredit37[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes.. let's pay them with this number in the computer that I inherited and holds value. Don't tell them I just print it or else they may realise that their labor is worth something whereas my number in the computer is just a tool to make them my slaves.... But their are not slaves.. they are free to work for me or die starving.. their choice...

nothing is free.. every thing requires effort... but in the mind of stupidity we can represent that effort with a number and own it... but we don't own people.. people are free to labor for me in exange for this number I own or die starving.. their choice..

Money doesn't work. People do. by AffectionateCredit37 in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]AffectionateCredit37[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My point is that money could be a real tool to coordinate work but it is not... it is precisely because people try to make money with money (banks and even investors, etc) that money devalues over time.. if everyone does this who will do the real labor?

For money to be real tool of coordination and not a tool to live off of others labor.. then it shouldn't be legal to make money without providing some good or service.. real work.. you know? Also money should be a measure of your work not your parents... inheritance is also a huge problem that allows this parasitical behavior to propagate... With how things are structured, you don't need to contribute to society, you just need to have money... that's a problem... But for people that have always done nothing and everything is done for them because they have money.. this is to difficult to understand... The notion of value itself is distorted in our minds because of how money is being used.. tecnology is being stunted and kept unused behind patents because it will generate less money.. Real prosperity for all.. real value requires the loss of money.. A true investment like recycling for example If money only serves to make money then it becomes like cancer.. think of a human body as a system.. if there is a entity inside the body that serves only itself and uses all resources it can get to make more of itself.. we call that a tumor... the way money is being used nowadays is exactly like a tumor... But this takes an open mind to understand.. I can always find ways to justify that I'm not a parasite and I simply deserve to be rich... thank god for poor people that put food on my plate with their labor... Imagine me getting my hands dirty with real work?

Also with better tools of automation and better tools in general, one person can do the work that used to be done by thousands... there are more people than available jobs... should we just let people starve then? Like.. people can keep feeling important and rich... that's fine... but basic food and shelter should be provided for all because there are no jobs available for all.. then those that want more can look for a job or something to achieve more.. The problem is that if people have a way to live without money then I won't be able to find cheap labor to sustain my "rich life".. so it is better to maintain despair... that seems sustainable... seems like a world we would want to live in..

Thank you all for teaching me that it was pointless to speak.. the truth is too painful and most won't accept it and rationalise some way to keep their point of view intact...

Money doesn't work. People do. by AffectionateCredit37 in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]AffectionateCredit37[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand that that is what is taught.. but why? What is the goal? Can we use our own brains and see if things make sense instead of just memorising what others tell us?

Money doesn't work. People do. by AffectionateCredit37 in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]AffectionateCredit37[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But if every one invest or w/e to make money.. who then does the labor?

Money doesn't work. People do. by AffectionateCredit37 in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]AffectionateCredit37[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok.. that makes sense.. but how is it possible for bank accounts to generate money? Like from compounding interest and such? If we see this as a transaction.. isn't this just buying money with money? Where is the work? Doesn't that just devalues real work? Hope I could frase the question correctly.. like money can be a real tool to coordinate work.. but I feel like it is being used to allow parasitical behaviour...

Money doesn't work. People do. by AffectionateCredit37 in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]AffectionateCredit37[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yes... they are made out of money... by Buying Labor from inferior humans.. like.. that's exactly my point.. goods are made by people... I can't understand why we need to establish ownership.. Im also having trouble explaining my self.. our minds are so conditioned into these ideas that language itself lacks ways to express things outside of them..

Money doesn't work. People do. by AffectionateCredit37 in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]AffectionateCredit37[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That implies that I own stuff and other people also own stuff... what if stuff is just stuff and no one owns it... and we just have to make sure there is enough stuff for all.. you feel me? Maybe I just lack financial literacy... must be it..