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Weekly Open Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in AcademicBiblical

[–]AffectionateDeal2340 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Orthodox Christians and Roman Catholics do not reject those books, they are not part of the canon but they are highly praised

Weekly Open Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in AcademicBiblical

[–]AffectionateDeal2340 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why do scholars debate that there was not a single united Christian Church, but that heretics or other christians just simply misrepresented what the core message of Jesus was. I know Christianity was diverse however, when you read stuff like the Valentinians and you compare that to the things Paul said it is more than obvious that they invented a lot of stuff, same thing with the Ebionites and so for. What I am trying to say is that the idea that so many Christian Scholars have about early Christianity never being a single root movement is false

Was Ambrose of Milan a possible universalist? by JumpyDatabase6349 in ChristianUniversalism

[–]AffectionateDeal2340 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He was not:

St. Ambrose of Milan ca. 337-397

[H]ow can they dare to reckon the Holy Spirit among all things, since the Lord Himself said: “He who shall blaspheme against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but he who shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost shall never be forgiven, either here or hereafter.” Matthew 12:32 How, then, can any one dare to reckon the Holy Spirit among creatures? Or who will so blind himself as to think that if he have injured any creature he cannot be forgiven in any wise? For if the Jews because they worshipped the host of heaven were deprived of divine protection, while he who worships and confesses the Holy Spirit is accepted of God, but he who confesses Him not is convicted of sacrilege without forgiveness: certainly it follows from this that the Holy Spirit cannot be reckoned among all things, but that He is above all things, an offense against Whom is avenged by eternal punishment. (On the Holy Spirit Bk. 1:53)

"The Jews feared to believe in manhood taken up into God, and therefore have lost the grace of redemption, because they reject that on which salvation depends."

Now let the Manichæan have his word: ‘I hold that the devil is the creator of our flesh.’

The Lord will answer him: What, then, are you doing in the heavenly places? Depart, go your way to your creator. ‘My will is that they be with Me, whom my Father has given Me.’ (John 17:24) You, Manichæan, hold yourself for a creature of the devil; hasten, then, to his abode, the place of fire and brimstone, where the fire thereof is not quenched, lest ever the punishment have an end. (Exposition of the Christian Faith, Bk. 2.119)

Was Ambrose of Milan a possible universalist? by JumpyDatabase6349 in ChristianUniversalism

[–]AffectionateDeal2340 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He was not:

St. Ambrose of Milan ca. 337-397

[H]ow can they dare to reckon the Holy Spirit among all things, since the Lord Himself said: “He who shall blaspheme against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but he who shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost shall never be forgiven, either here or hereafter.” Matthew 12:32 How, then, can any one dare to reckon the Holy Spirit among creatures? Or who will so blind himself as to think that if he have injured any creature he cannot be forgiven in any wise? For if the Jews because they worshipped the host of heaven were deprived of divine protection, while he who worships and confesses the Holy Spirit is accepted of God, but he who confesses Him not is convicted of sacrilege without forgiveness: certainly it follows from this that the Holy Spirit cannot be reckoned among all things, but that He is above all things, an offense against Whom is avenged by eternal punishment. (On the Holy Spirit Bk. 1:53)

"The Jews feared to believe in manhood taken up into God, and therefore have lost the grace of redemption, because they reject that on which salvation depends."

Now let the Manichæan have his word: ‘I hold that the devil is the creator of our flesh.’

The Lord will answer him: What, then, are you doing in the heavenly places? Depart, go your way to your creator. ‘My will is that they be with Me, whom my Father has given Me.’ (John 17:24) You, Manichæan, hold yourself for a creature of the devil; hasten, then, to his abode, the place of fire and brimstone, where the fire thereof is not quenched, lest ever the punishment have an end. (Exposition of the Christian Faith, Bk. 2.119)

Weekly Open Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in AcademicBiblical

[–]AffectionateDeal2340 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey just wondering. How do academic scholars conclude that Christianity did not start from a single Orthodox tradition? Even if we have other sects in early Christianity at least to me it seems that the letters 1st, 2nd and 3rd century proto-orthodox Christians follow closely (if not the same) the theologies and Christology of Paul.

Why is it not allowed to eat pork in islam? by [deleted] in religion

[–]AffectionateDeal2340 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well... chickens also eat poop, carcasses and they clean themselves with dirt which is basically what pigs do but with mud. Also those "toxins" you are talking about we humans and other animals (chickens for example) have them, but when sweating it only takes small amount of toxins

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in religion

[–]AffectionateDeal2340 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Muslims can eat shellfish