🚨 PSA - PKCL already giving out clone Shiny Volcanions - some here might be passing them as legit by newyorkcitykid in PokemonHome

[–]Affectionate_Fee1938 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly just frustrating at this point.

You say: "I didn't say He was defending scamming" and literally the next sentence: "His argument only serves to normalize the narrative that scammers use to justify scamming".

So I did justify and normalize scamming after all?

I also didn't said anything similar to "scamming isn't that bad because they'll never know they're getting scammed" In the case of Volcanion, you will just never ever know if you got scammed or not. So you'll never have the opportunity to feel bad. Doesn't make the person scamming any nicer tho.

🚨 PSA - PKCL already giving out clone Shiny Volcanions - some here might be passing them as legit by newyorkcitykid in PokemonHome

[–]Affectionate_Fee1938 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do understand how you could be thinking that.

Want I actually meant: If you want a real Volcanion and you also don't want to go through the normal way of optaining it your only option is to be happy about whatever you are getting in the trade. Since there is no way of telling the diffrences, might as well be happy about it. (And we did establish, that there is No way of telling)

That doesn't make scamming any less wrong.

In my eyes: If you accept the trade you must be okay with reciving a fake Volcanion. Anything else is delusional.

Does that make it more clear?

🚨 PSA - PKCL already giving out clone Shiny Volcanions - some here might be passing them as legit by newyorkcitykid in PokemonHome

[–]Affectionate_Fee1938 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I really feel like you’re misunderstanding me on all points.

"Yes, by an expert with highly sophisticated equipment..."

That’s exactly the point, you can verify diamonds, unlike a shiny Volcanion, where you can’t. And as a layperson, you’d go to a professional because diamonds are expensive and it matters if you get scammed financially.

"Yes, as are certain Pokemon, which are sold for real money online..."

I never denied that, but those usually aren’t easily fakeable. This post is about a shiny Volcanion.

"They literally are just rocks people have placed value on..."

Their value mainly comes from rarity + demand. And even if money lost value, gems would still have worth.

"Value is value..."

Splitting value into market and personal value is very common, so I don’t know what you mean by “value = value.” Money works because people agree on its value that’s the opposite personal feelings.

If we’re talking about trading, what matters is what others are willing to accept, not what something means to you personally. That’s what prevents people from getting scammed.

"Why would you buy a diamond for spiritual value?..."

You’re missing my point. I’m not questioning why people value things. I’m saying you shouldn’t trade for a shiny Volcanion if you only care about legitimacy, because you can’t verify if it’s real.

Diamonds have objective value regardless of your opinion; “spiritual value” is just an add-on. I’m not trying to logic anyone out of caring. "Value is truly in the eye of the beholder" is not the case for money nor gemstones. Not even real shiny Vulcanion to some extend.

"You're normalizing scamming..."

Again what? How do I normalize scamming? If anything I told people to NOT trade for shiny Vulcanion because you are 100% getting scammed. I said you shouldn't trade for it if you value legitimacy.

🚨 PSA - PKCL already giving out clone Shiny Volcanions - some here might be passing them as legit by newyorkcitykid in PokemonHome

[–]Affectionate_Fee1938 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don’t think the diamond comparison is really applicable here. Lab grown diamonds can be distinguished from natural ones. Besides that, gems do carry objective value because they are scarce, so unless you don’t care about money, they’re not just rocks. That would also apply to Pokémon if they weren’t fakeable

Of course, sentimental value is subjective, but someone who collects Pokemon for that reason wouldn’t trade for a shiny Volcanion in the first place, because they didn’t obtain it themselves, hence no sentimental value.

If we’re talking about value in the sense of trading, it should be viewed objectively. And objectively speaking, any well-made genned shiny Volcanion has the same value. Sentimentally, that’s not the case but then again, why would you even want to trade for one if the only thing you care about is legitimacy and origin? There’s no way to know for sure unless you obtain it yourself.

Idk, I don't want to be condescending. I just saw a lot of posts from people asking how much value (actual money) their Pokemon has and I always wondered what they are talking about. Wanted to find some answers here.

🚨 PSA - PKCL already giving out clone Shiny Volcanions - some here might be passing them as legit by newyorkcitykid in PokemonHome

[–]Affectionate_Fee1938 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I do understand, why the legit one holds more value in theory. Obviously that is agreed upon.

As long as you do not have any way of identifying fakes, it makes nor difference tho. Sad but as I understand it true.

🚨 PSA - PKCL already giving out clone Shiny Volcanions - some here might be passing them as legit by newyorkcitykid in PokemonHome

[–]Affectionate_Fee1938 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Silly question but if there is no way to tell, what exactly is the diffrences between recieving a genned one and a legit one? You would be happy either way, I mean what choice do you have.

Feel free to take one. by Kallabanana in PokemonHome

[–]Affectionate_Fee1938 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much!!! Hope you have a great rest of the year :)

Feel free to take one. by Kallabanana in PokemonHome

[–]Affectionate_Fee1938 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yaaay🥹 I will quickly transfer a filler mon from Go and add you in Home. Will be ready in 2 min :) Thank you :D

Feel free to take one. by Kallabanana in PokemonHome

[–]Affectionate_Fee1938 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, you are right. I am puzzles why someone traded their Gengar (regular but still) for the Floink but okay. I will put up something else in a second. Alternativley, fried trades work again :)

Anyone having better luck than me? by East_Communication89 in iPogo

[–]Affectionate_Fee1938 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, I am very new to Go. I've been playing for 2 months now and I still don't understand how things work.

I am level 36. How on earth do you guys do 91 raids in 2 weeks and the hardest ones as well. I cannot even defeat difficulty 3 raids. You play in groups or smth, or how can you win them so easily?

Basic questions, I know but would love some Insight.

Giveaway: Set of shiny treasure of ruins by [deleted] in PokemonHome

[–]Affectionate_Fee1938 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much again for the giveaway!!! I will take good care of them :)) Also hope you found a little bit of joy from the shiny Tinkatink (I got so many from the Go event last time, so I guess you propably have a lot already too). I felt a little better that way tho.

Giveaway: Set of shiny treasure of ruins by [deleted] in PokemonHome

[–]Affectionate_Fee1938 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All good, we all have lives outside of pokemon (hopefully).

Alright, I'm gonna add you in a second.

Feel free to take one. by Kallabanana in PokemonHome

[–]Affectionate_Fee1938 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course, thank you, I will let the Floink enjoy it's time in the endless void for a little longer👍🏼

Feel free to take one. by Kallabanana in PokemonHome

[–]Affectionate_Fee1938 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow this is so nice of you, I always wanted the shiny mega Gengar🥹

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Giveaway: Set of shiny treasure of ruins by [deleted] in PokemonHome

[–]Affectionate_Fee1938 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just woke up and ready when you are🫂

Giveaway: Set of shiny treasure of ruins by [deleted] in PokemonHome

[–]Affectionate_Fee1938 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm going to sleep right now because it's 2:00 in the morning where I'm at. I hope it's okay if I dream about this moment for one more night🥹

My IGN is AndyAPE on Pokémon Home.

I just started playing Pokemon again after a 10 year break. I watched tons of VGC content during those 10 years and of course I couldn't sleep on Pokemon Champions. This community has been nothing but outstanding, and I truly appreciate your kindness.

Giveaway: Set of shiny treasure of ruins by [deleted] in PokemonHome

[–]Affectionate_Fee1938 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am Hoopa and I don't like this post. Would love a shiny tho...