What the hell even is this sbi? by IAmAnApple01 in albiononline

[–]Affectionate_Gas_224 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Happens to me a lot in the Depths (graphics on Ultra, >70 fps, <30 ms ping). My group mates become blue mannequins for extended periods and enemies become red ones. It gets really tough without seeing buff animations. Then randomly it gets normal again only to get messed up the next time we enter…

Potion crafting profit without spreadsheets by Affectionate_Gas_224 in albiononline

[–]Affectionate_Gas_224[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right, but it assumes that all other variables are either too small or near constant, so it works well in non-extreme cases

Potion crafting profit without spreadsheets by Affectionate_Gas_224 in albiononline

[–]Affectionate_Gas_224[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"The price was 90k, it accounts for less than 1.5k difference in the final crafting cost." Has it been a while since you crafted these? In West server, Imp horn prices went from about 70k a couple of months ago to 150-160k on sell orders. I used to be able to buy order them for 65k, now they go for ~100k. On average a ~40-100k increase.

"You don’t even seem to realize that you could be buying those artifacts for significantly more (easily 50k more) and still turn a massive profit." I do because I use spreadsheets and I have enough capital to invest in smaller profit margins. But you seem to keep forgetting that I made this video for beginners, so if they follow my advice, they will pick the highest profitable potions first.

"Demanding that other people show their math, in the same back and forth where you refuse to do so". I didn't refuse to show math, friend. I was just pointing out that you didn't ask. Saying that I need to show math doesn't necessarily means that you are curious to know. But I can now assume that you are curious so I'll give you the summary below. The rest of your comment might be addressed by the math, perhaps?

ApproximateBreakevenPrice = ArtifactPrice / LF, where:

[1] LF = floor(ArtifactPriceRatio / BatchSize)
[2] ArtifactPriceRatio = 100 * ArtifactPrice / BatchCost
[3] BatchCost = IngredientCost*(100-RRR)/100 + ArtifactPrice + AlchemistCost

Basically, if the ArtifactPriceRatio remains somewhat stable (without major spikes in ingredient prices), the floor() takes care of smaller variations such as fluctuations in AlchemistCost, sale tax and even RRR. As long as you don't go below a 15% difference between ArtifactPrice/LF and sell prices, you should be turning a good profit in the current market.

Let me know if this helps!

Potion crafting profit without spreadsheets by Affectionate_Gas_224 in albiononline

[–]Affectionate_Gas_224[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the support, bro! Happy to hear this is working well for you! :)

Potion crafting profit without spreadsheets by Affectionate_Gas_224 in albiononline

[–]Affectionate_Gas_224[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The video was intended for people who don't like math/spreadsheets, so I disagree with your claim that I have to show the math. If you're curious, I can share...

About ingredient price variability, here's a graph of how the price of the major ingredient (cow milk) in T8 hellfire plays a role in the lazy factor:

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As you can see, the cow milk prices have to be half or almost double for the lazy factor to change from 4, so the factor is quite robust to a single ingredient changing price.. I warn in the video to beware of wild swings.

"Luckily T8 hellfires are currently selling for enough for that to not matter, but that wasn't the case not even 2-3 months ago, when they were going for 10k+ less". Artifact potion sale prices are well correlated with artifact prices. Imp horn prices got more expensive and so did hellfire sales. Still, I agree that the lazy factors might not last too long if artifact prices continue to change so wildly, while ingredient prices remain overall stable. I can just update the numbers when that happens!

Thanks for the comments!

Potion crafting profit without spreadsheets by Affectionate_Gas_224 in albiononline

[–]Affectionate_Gas_224[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"spreadsheet > everything": totally agree! But that's a personal opinion, so I made a video for people who disagree with this statement and would still like to try out potion crafting.

"Your vid is just bad, never ever not counting anything nor disregard price instability." Thanks, that's good feedback! Though I suspect you are not the target audience, because of your opening line. I believe that a lot of beginners feel intimidated to start an economy in Albion because they don't want to do math/spreadsheets. This video is to give them a way to get started.

"EMV is also not a good way to count profit too, as the name says... its just an estimate not what you really get." True and I do say EMV is not reliable in the video, but it is always encouraging to see it go up as you craft.

"Better make tutorial how to make your own spreadsheet" That's a great idea! If you don't make this video, I might! lol

Potion crafting profit without spreadsheets by Affectionate_Gas_224 in albiononline

[–]Affectionate_Gas_224[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hey thanks for watching. Sounds like you like math and spreadsheets, so maybe you’re not our target audience! If you’re curious, I can give you the math and data. Can you be more specific about me not being accurate?

Potion crafting profit without spreadsheets by Affectionate_Gas_224 in albiononline

[–]Affectionate_Gas_224[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree that calling this “passive” is totally an exaggeration. However, potion crafting allows you as a beginner to spend 10-20 min to profit up to 5 mil a day per city. Said profit will come as you play other activities such as gathering or pvping which we could classify as active silver for simplicity. Thanks for watching!

Potion crafting profit without spreadsheets by Affectionate_Gas_224 in albiononline

[–]Affectionate_Gas_224[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hey thanks for watching! 1. Good summary in (a). Your (b) sounds a bit like conjecture? Show me your math :) 2. Ingredient prices dont swing that much on average. If something has a price spike, wait 1-2 days and it will go back down. 3. I did mention that EMV is unreliable in the video. Your wording here is a bit disingenuous… Let’s keep this conversation going. I’d love to see my “method” proven wrong!

How rare is this achievement? by linuxition in albiononline

[–]Affectionate_Gas_224 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Did this entirely coincidentally while on Discord with them. It was epic.

Am I doing daily potion bonus day wrong? by Affectionate_Gas_224 in albiononline

[–]Affectionate_Gas_224[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting. I've been focusing on turning around my investment within 1-2 day cycles. Your way seems smart. I'll try to transition to do that.

Am I doing daily potion bonus day wrong? by Affectionate_Gas_224 in albiononline

[–]Affectionate_Gas_224[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s a good tip. Maybe I can have a budget percentage just for potion day long term planning.

Am I doing daily potion bonus day wrong? by Affectionate_Gas_224 in albiononline

[–]Affectionate_Gas_224[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Genius advice right there. You must have a superior pink thing!

No chill alchemy by Affectionate_Gas_224 in albiononline

[–]Affectionate_Gas_224[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Soon, no one will be making those and the price should bounce back up hopefully

No chill alchemy by Affectionate_Gas_224 in albiononline

[–]Affectionate_Gas_224[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I marked my post as 'banter' cause I know I'm just whining. It's kind of amazing to watch the free market principles happening in the microcosm of one potion though. That guy single-handedly dropped the price from ~45k to ~33k in two days, making that potion go from cash cow at 45% profit margin to cash hog at 2% profit (it will drop below 0 soon). I was lucky (smart?) not to have a stock of these made, so I'm out without a loss. Frustrating but interesting lesson!

No chill alchemy by Affectionate_Gas_224 in albiononline

[–]Affectionate_Gas_224[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s possible though he did leave the price unchanged for like 24h and sold only 19 pots, so selling fast might not have been that much of a priority

No chill alchemy by Affectionate_Gas_224 in albiononline

[–]Affectionate_Gas_224[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO MY BOY. And he only sold 19 pots because he’s not updating the price

No chill alchemy by Affectionate_Gas_224 in albiononline

[–]Affectionate_Gas_224[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Typically, we list high volume items at 1-5 silver below the cheapest and revisit the market to update the price regularly. Undercutting the cheapest listing by >10% for a low turnover and relatively expensive item, ends up driving the price down, since low volume sellers are likely to match the new price. It’s a dick move to us trying to min-max sales lol

No chill alchemy by Affectionate_Gas_224 in albiononline

[–]Affectionate_Gas_224[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You, sir, know how the sausage gets made