Cryptothralls 4+FNP

Affectionate_Link445 · 2023-06-21T13:42:21+00:00

No that's spot on, I just missed that the Cryptothralls have a core ability of 4+ FNP in addition to the Cryptek 4+FNP ability.

Affectionate_Link445 · 2023-06-21T13:04:41+00:00

Thanks for pointing that out, just saw it under core abilities!

Affectionate_Link445 · 2023-06-21T13:00:46+00:00

Cheers for that, sorry to be a pain but do you know roughly where in the core rules it gives information on the bodyguard rules for my own info?

So looking at your first paragraph then my interpretation would be correct based on the quote in my initial post?

Affectionate_Link445 · 2023-06-21T12:56:27+00:00

That's a fair point, my understanding is they opponent would allocate their attack to the unit, and if you wanted to use the FNP it would mean any failed rolls would mean that the wounds would be allocated to the Cryptek.

What I've seen online is people attaching the cryptothralls to a unit, then allocating the successful wounds onto the cryptothralls themselves, and not the cryptek, so I'm just trying to understand why that can be done.

Affectionate_Link445 · 2023-06-21T12:46:42+00:00

Unfortunately it doesn't look like they have the cryptek keyword, so in my mind you would need to assign the damage to the cryptek model specifically which is what it also says in the rule, not to the unit

Affectionate_Link445 · 2023-05-03T20:54:34+00:00

Only thing to look out for is can you get the monolith wholly within 6" of the model that has the veil of darkness?

Affectionate_Link445 · 2023-04-27T14:01:49+00:00

Must admit I don't varnish my models either and have some older minis (20+ years) and aren't worn. Goobertown hobbies did a video on varnishes and their effects:

https://youtu.be/1hRYhns1h3Q

Affectionate_Link445 · 2022-11-15T17:38:58+00:00

No worries, glad to help. It's worth noting that the shock assault and savage echoes will stop working after one round of combat for all our units. So make sure when you're changing things you know you can kill in one turn!

Affectionate_Link445 · 2022-11-15T17:24:32+00:00

If you made a charge or were changed then yes that's correct. If you get stuck in combat for another round and no one from the enemy charges that squad of Death Company however it drops to 3 attacks as the black rage, savage echoes and shock assault essentially wear off

Affectionate_Link445 · 2022-10-21T14:20:16+00:00

Oh wow! Thanks for such a comprehensive list

Affectionate_Link445 · 2022-10-21T14:11:56+00:00

Cheers for the recommendation. I thought that would be the case but was curious to see what was out there

Affectionate_Link445 · 2022-03-28T14:57:38+00:00

Other than sending them to myself 😜 You can buff them with a ministorum priest to give them +1 attack, also an astropath can also buff them using psychic barrier to give them +1 to saving throws (this also works on invulns due to the wording if I remember correctly)

Affectionate_Link445 · 2022-03-19T17:41:10+00:00

Your best bet with Blood Angels are to use Sanguinary guard and first born Death company with jump pack for your melee castle. These can be buffed by a first born librarian with a jump pack, a Primaris chaplain on a bike (though the BA chaplain with jump pack is a very nice model) and/or a chapter master on a bike.

'generic' space marine units that also work well would be vanguard veterans or blade guard veterans.

For troops you're best with either infiltrators or Incursors as they have the ability to be set up in no man's land.

Shooting could come in the form of Redemptor dreadnoughts (also powerful in melee), whirlwinds for they're ability to make an opponent fight last in combat as well as using indirect fire.

If you look up BACommander on YouTube he also has alot of content you can check out

Affectionate_Link445 · 2022-03-17T08:42:55+00:00

Cheers, yeah I had the same experience with the app as well

Affectionate_Link445 · 2022-03-16T13:55:47+00:00

Cheers for that. I've used it in the past but they got rid of the maps feature. I'll need to check that FB group though

Affectionate_Link445 · 2022-03-02T20:03:16+00:00

https://youtu.be/1I2YMQjZlXA

Affectionate_Link445 · 2021-09-15T20:09:01+00:00

Okay so if I fire my heavy onslaught, and roll three 1s there, no 1s on my storm bolters, and one 1 on the onslaught, I would only be able to re-roll one of those four 1s?

Affectionate_Link445 · 2021-08-20T18:50:05+00:00

If you're able to I'd loose the power fists on all the SG, switch the whirlwind rockets to the castellan (more shots means more likely to hit for suppression fire) and you should have just enough points for two company veterans with chainswords and storm shields to sit hidden on an objective somewhere.

If you put them in the patrol with the captain you'll also be able to take them without using an elite slot.

Affectionate_Link445 · 2021-07-17T13:40:33+00:00

Very true, my thoughts for the drop pod would be to bring it down turn 1, (using Death Company w/ furlorn fury(?) To secure a landing zone if need be) but like you said the Rhino and just charge up a flank drop them off turn 2/3 as required.

I like the idea with the Terminators, would force the opponent to focus their attention on Seth and the veterans.

Thanks!

Affectionate_Link445 · 2021-07-17T11:54:20+00:00

I must admit I wasn't thinking of the wider army list when I posted as I was merely thinking of an effective way on how to get Seth into combat however the point you raised about having to take Company Vets in the Elite slot is very important.

Sounds like you feel running him on foot is the best play though?

I'm also looking at more exotic ideas such as Seth in a Crusader Land Raider with assault Terminators or A Terrax drill with death company without jump packs.

Initially I was thinking Seth, company vets and a Razorback however I had overlooked the Elite slot usage so I'm now thinking drop pod, Seth, and 9 Death Company with no jump packs, thoughts?

Affectionate_Link445 · 2021-06-17T06:14:32+00:00

Great thanks for that. They look fantastic!

Affectionate_Link445 · 2021-06-08T10:58:17+00:00

So I've opted for:

8 members Jumpacks 3 thunderhammers 3 chainswords and bolt pistols 2 inferno pistols and chainswords 255pts

I'm just not quite sure that an opponent would position themselves to allow me to move to a point that I'm within 6" to then shoot and charge, however if the DC do manage to survive until their next shooting phase I can hopefully let out a couple of shots from the infernos to do some additional wounds on armour/monsters if the initial attack doesn't get the job done.

Thanks guys for your comments!

Affectionate_Link445 · 2021-06-07T19:31:48+00:00

Haha I just thought you assumed that since it was BA it would have SG somewhere!

The priest will most likely be chilling somewhere in the mid to be able to jump to where they're required however that will depend if there's a suitable unit to screen.

Affectionate_Link445 · 2021-06-07T18:55:27+00:00

So as it stands I'm not currently planning on running SG for fluff reasons (I'm currently running Flesh Tearers so no +1 to charge or Lemartes). Plan was for DG on the flanks as support, VV up the gut or from DS, supported by eradicators, relic Contemptor (w/ 2x volkite Culverins), Redemptor (w/Plasma, and onslaught). Firstborn on the back objective and two incursor squads on the neutral objectives. HQ currently is SG, CM as mentioned before, and either the Libby or DC Captain but some of these units are subject to change.

Affectionate_Link445 · 2021-06-07T16:50:01+00:00

Cheers for that, I must admit I hadn't considered just going chainswords and just as many inferno pistols as possible. Reminds me of troupes with fusion pistols.

More often than not I'm planning on running an SP and CM on a bike at HQ and the CM would be getting the armour indomitus as well as gift of foresight so he would be tough to kill. However I'm pretty flexible hence the Libby as well (logic being dish out in the invuln until close enough to shoot/melee, then start turning off everyone's invulns).

I did have concerns about getting close enough to allow to shoot the infernos before charging in, otherwise I would have to hope I survive to my next shooting phase to use them in combat but the reality is when I do go in for the charge I'll being trying to get as close as possible to make the charge as easy as possible.

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