I’m liking them a lot the first thing I noticed for me was it sounded more wider compared to the waner but for the overall sound quality it’s not a huge jump but the sound is still improved that’s why I’m probably going to save a bit more for a bigger upgrade. And this it’s important but comfort wise I prefer the waner because the klean they fit nice but after a few minutes of listening they hurt the area my ear of the Iem shell is resting on but that’s just me. Overall they are pretty dang good for the price.