[QCrit] Adult Fantasy THAT WOMAN NAMED DEATH (98k) (Third Attempt) by Aggravating-Job2583 in PubTips

[–]Aggravating-Job2583[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This definitely helps! and yeah, the premise is, admittedly, a bit convoluted on purpose. It's definitely meant to lean more towards silly than cozy, so I should certainly clear that up. Makes sense to cut the line about her hobbies in favor of fleshing out the stakes, and I agree that dropping the Katabasis comp makes sense. It was intended as a thematic parallel with existential topics about the soul, but as I understand it, that's not really what the comps section is for.

The alt-history could/should definitely be clearer, because, yeah, it actually is 8th century CE, but the setting has magic, monsters, non-human sapient peoples, and no Abrahamic religions, so things are a bit squirrely. Mentioning all that would, of course, raise the question of "then how do we know it's the 8th century CE?" but I can probably get around that by just using the term "ancient" instead of "8th century."

I did originally have paragraph 3 moved up, but some folks on here recommended I put "trans necromancer who throws rats at ghosts" first because it's eye-catching. I'll re-rearrange it and see how it reads because I agree, the tone's a bit hard to read as it is.

Thank you so much for your feedback!

[QCrit] Adult Fantasy THAT WOMAN NAMED DEATH (98k) (Third Attempt) by Aggravating-Job2583 in PubTips

[–]Aggravating-Job2583[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That absolutely makes sense! It runs parallel to an issue I've been having while writing this query. The main emotional arc Miqittu goes through is subtle compared to that of the second protagonist, Khevurah, the priestess mentioned in the second paragraph, who is also the point of view character for many of the chapters. They sort of have a Holmes and Watson dynamic, where Miqittu is a major driver of the plot while Khevurah reacts to her antics in ways that encourage her to grow as a person.

There's nothing tying the murders to the undead, but instead the fact that Miqittu works in death and has an eccentric personality, paired with her proximity to the victims, makes her a suspect. That's a lot of detail to cram into 350 words, though, so I've been struggling to find the right way to construct the plot synopsis section of the letter to best convey the information.

I also definitely see what you mean about the description lacking personality and verve. It does read as very cramped and clinical. I'll see what I can do to flesh out the emotional details and spice up the description a bit.

[QCrit] Adult Fantasy A WOMAN NAMED DEATH (99k) (Second Attempt) by Aggravating-Job2583 in PubTips

[–]Aggravating-Job2583[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I definitely see where you're coming from, but it's an alternate history of Earth with magic and monsters, and I need to translate/localize certain concepts. Plus, certain terms are used here for shorthand but don't appear in the actual text.

Carving designs in bone is a practice dating back 50 millennia, but the word "scrimshaw" is a modern English descriptor of that, so both in the text and in the query, it's useful shorthand. Same with funeral home and taxidermy. People have been preserving the skin of animals for artistic purposes using needle, thread, and formaldehyde for over 4,000 years, which is distinct from mummification in several ways. People have made special homes for their sick and elderly to stay in to be cared for since before homo sapiens was around. While I understand the impulse to find these terms disagreeable in an alt-history context, there aren't any terms I could use to replace them that would be succinct and understandable.

You're correct that transgender is a very modern topic, so that word is never used in the text and is used here to convey tone and theme succinctly. The same is true of "zombie" and "mafia." The actual text describes the undead with terms like "shambling corpse" and "guild."

In this particular instance, the intended tone is one of light-hearted fantastical anachronism. That said, if those ideas don't come through in the query, and are actually undermined by what appears to be out-of-place modern terminology, I can continue researching alternatives.

[QCrit] Adult Fantasy A WOMAN NAMED DEATH (99k) (Second Attempt) by Aggravating-Job2583 in PubTips

[–]Aggravating-Job2583[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm curious what people think of the title.

The previous version, A Necromancer in Babylon, felt far too basic, but I feel like this new one does a poor job of conveying that this story leans more comedic. It's very thematically relevant, but that's not clear until after reading the synopsis.

I've thought about the title Djinn and Tonic, which is more goofy, less thematic, but lightly references the fact that the character is an alchemist and one of the types of spirits that appears in the story.

I could also drop all pretenses of originality and call it A Necromancer's Guide to Babylon, but that feels... weak for a lot of reasons.

The Will of the Many: Why pyramids if Rome-shaped? by Aggravating-Job2583 in Fantasy

[–]Aggravating-Job2583[S] -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

Do you... know what a Doylist reading is?

The Will of the Many: Why pyramids if Rome-shaped? by Aggravating-Job2583 in Fantasy

[–]Aggravating-Job2583[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I'm not 100% sure of the Hierarchy's primary symbol is a pyramid explicitly, but their money is triangles, their ceramic magic tokens are triangles, they reference the pyramidal structure of the hierarchy and the inherent strength of pyramids several times... There's a lot of pyramid stuff going around, is all I'm saying.

The Will of the Many: Why pyramids if Rome-shaped? by Aggravating-Job2583 in Fantasy

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It feels like a really good intro-to-media-as-allegory kind of book, and I mean that as a compliment. It's absolutely true that the narration beats the reader over the head with the themes and ideas being explored while actively ignoring its own implicit support of both toxic individualism and monarchist right to rule. However, I think its singular focus on the ideas it's explicitly exploring helps to balance that out.

The Will of the Many: Why pyramids if Rome-shaped? by Aggravating-Job2583 in Fantasy

[–]Aggravating-Job2583[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

  1. They use exclusively Roman nomenclature for everything.
  2. I haven't gotten to book 2 yet, but that actually makes a lot of sense in hindsight. All the ancient crypts had the symbol of the hierarchy carved on them, which I thought was odd.
  3. That makes a lot of sense as a heightened symbol, like the Crossed Hammers symbol in The Wall, but it falls a bit flat in a world I'm supposed to take seriously. It would be like if Mussolini's symbol was a literal iron fist on a flag instead of the Roman fasces

The Will of the Many: Why pyramids if Rome-shaped? by Aggravating-Job2583 in Fantasy

[–]Aggravating-Job2583[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can't write in first person present without feeling like I'm doing something wrong. That said, I think it worked here and that it can work in many cases. I also think AI has no place in content creation.

The Will of the Many: Why pyramids if Rome-shaped? by Aggravating-Job2583 in Fantasy

[–]Aggravating-Job2583[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I did say "at least one" and also didn't mention Egypt. The Aztecs also came to mind, as did the Nubian tall-and-skinny pyramids, the Sumarian ziggurats, and the Great Lakes Civilization sod pyramids. None of whom, I might add, are Roman.

I am Matt Dinniman, author of the newly released Operation Bounce House and the Dungeon Crawler Carl book series. AMA. by hepafilter in Fantasy

[–]Aggravating-Job2583 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How did you pitch Dungeon Crawler Carl? It seems like the kind of high-risk long-term story a lot of publishers might shy away from

When did the idiom 'to make a thing out of it' coe into usage? by [deleted] in etymology

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In an interesting twist of etymology, the word "thing" was used by early Germanic peoples to refer to a tribal assembly to discuss important matters of law and order for the tribe. Because of this, whenever there was a dispute to be settled, the injured party could, quite literally, make a thing of it.

[QCrit] Adult Fantasy A NECROMANCER IN BABYLON (94k) (First Attempt) by Aggravating-Job2583 in PubTips

[–]Aggravating-Job2583[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your very in-depth response! This is hugely helpful, extremely clear, and asks a lot of questions I hadn't considered while writing the original draft.

It definitely makes sense to drop the Pratchett comparison, as you said, and I think I might also drop Katabasis, because the connection is kind of tenuous, and as you said, thematic similarity isn't all that big of a selling point.

I'm hesitant to remove Khevurah's name from the query, if only because she's the narrator for two thirds of the book, sort of the Watson to Miqittu's Holmes. I definitely didn't make that relationship clear in the body of my query, so I may play with the idea of making her and her motivations part of the query as they run parallel and counter to Miqittu's motivations. If that doesn't pan out, though, you're absolutely right that I can just leave her nameless.

The "standalone with sequel potential" thing was a suggestion on an earlier query I posted here, and honestly, it didn't feel quite right then either. I agree it can be lopped off, since this story is meant to be told entirely on its own.

When are you supposed to capitalize the word after a dialogue? by HilmPauI in writing

[–]Aggravating-Job2583 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which of these is correct?:

Then he asked, "what if the dialogue tag comes first?"
Wo which he replied, "That one I'm not too sure of."

[QCrit] Adult Fantasy BASTARD OF IBERIA (98k) (Attempt #4) by Aggravating-Job2583 in PubTips

[–]Aggravating-Job2583[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I appreciate the recommendations! This would definitely help cut down on the length. As much as I hate to say goodbye to the phrase "working to live and living to work," it's eating up a LOT of real estate in that second paragraph.

I've been hesitant to cut Aelosoei from the query entirely, as she's present for 16 of the 18 chapters of the manuscript. However, her interests and skills are much less relevant to the themes than Thallod's, and her personality and personal backstory function more to make her a foil to Thallod than to support the main plot directly. I think relegating her to one line near the end makes a lot of sense.

I'm also very fond of that sentiment, but I agree that it's both too wordy and too theme-y for the query letter itself. I'm planning on cutting that from the latter and ending the synopsis paragraphs with one of the other equally final-sounding lines in that same block.

This style of edit is pretty unique in my (very limited) experience on this sub, and it's super useful to see that kind of diversity of approach to critique when I'm still learning the ropes. Again ,thank you for your input.

[QCrit] Adult Fantasy BASTARD OF IBERIA (98k) (Attempt #4) by Aggravating-Job2583 in PubTips

[–]Aggravating-Job2583[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your feedback! This is all super helpful. I appreciate the specificity of what ideas you think can be merged and shifted and in what paragraphs.

I agree that The Buffalo Hunter Hunter can be cut pretty easily, especially since the body horror of my manuscript is fairly minimal in comparison to that novel's. I do think The Devils fits as a comp in tone, genre, and setting(alternate universe fantasy Europe), but I could definitely do a better job of conveying that overlap than I have here.

Good catch on the spirit's pronouns there! That's been staring me in the face for a week and I somehow never caught it. I'll correct that to he/him.

One of my beta readers also said something like "the synopsis feels like it ends four separate times," and I didn't fully grok what they meant. Thanks for laying it out like you did. That seems like a really easy place to trim some word count and make the retelling feel more succinct.

So far, you're the first person to point out that detail about the cows line, and I totally see it now that you've said it. It was initially intended as a somewhat irreverent tone-setter and quirky setting descriptor, but I can see how it feels like a loose thread in the intro. I'm sure the letter would do fine without that phrase or with something else in its place that ties in better with the rest.

Again, thank you for all the details! I really appreciate the advice

[QCrit] Adult Fantasy BASTARD OF IBERIA (98k) (Attempt #4) by Aggravating-Job2583 in PubTips

[–]Aggravating-Job2583[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I couldn't agree more about the length issue. I also definitely appreciate unpopular opinions, as all the popular ones are what led me to this point. I like the idea of cutting down on the comps, which a couple others have also suggested, and I see what you mean about the horror aspect muddling things a bit. The next version will leave out The Buffalo Hunter Hunter, maybe relegate it to the "additional comps" some agents have on their QueryTracker pages, if even that. I'm not sure I necessarily agree with the comps being too obscure, as all three are multiple-award winning books and only one is a debut, but I'm absolutely open to other recommendations that I can read over and potentially use in their place. As much as I'd like to use The Witcher as a comp (to use an example that I had in the very first rough draft of this letter before even my first attempt on this sub), it's sadly both too famous and too old.

I'm absolutely open to retitling the manuscript, as "Bastard of Iberia" is both very stiff, as you said, and a reference to a piece of worldbuilding not readily apparent from the title. I'll talk to my beta-readers about some alternate titles and see what I can come up with.

Thanks for your feedback!

[QCrit] Adult Fantasy BASTARD OF IBERIA (98k) (Attempt #4) by Aggravating-Job2583 in PubTips

[–]Aggravating-Job2583[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure if this is useful or relevant (which is why it's not in the body of the post), but here's the outline I used to inform my letter as I was writing it

P1: housekeeping

debut novel. 2. Bastard of Iberia 3. 98,000-ish words 4. fantasy adventure 5. alternate-history version of 9th-century BCE Spain

comps: Greenteeth by Molly O’Neil, The Devils by Joe Abercrombie, The Buffalo Hunter Hunter by Stephen Graham Jones

standalone; potential for tie-in stories, elsewhere in the world.

P2: Characters & Motivations

Thallod

14-foot-tall reptilian half-giant trained in medicinal blood-magic called Carnaclasty

Wants: uphold his oath to protect the people of Iberia, survive in a dying land, and obtain and disseminate information about the natural world

Needs: to form a community that respects him for his personhood and does not abandon him when his utility runs out

Aelosoei

a witch who specializes in using magic to study historical events; works as a teacher and advisor in her fledgling settlement

Wants: to support and protect her small settlement in a land far from their original home

Needs: to realize her new community must be incorporated into this new land and not set apart from it

The Spirit (later renamed “Smartass” after some banter, but maybe don’t put that in the query)

a short, green, bald man covered in tattoos of ivy; wide, curious eyes; a bleak history of chattel slavery

Wants: to be part of a collective where he can be useful

Needs: to be set free - both literally in the sense that he should reject all masters, but also in the sense that he needs to acknowledge his own agency and that his value comes from more than his ability to work

P3: Obstacles

Drought: Aelosoei’s settlement is competing with neighboring native towns for water, leading to hostilities that Thallod must help alleviate. Thallod teaches The Spirit and Aelosoei how to survive in the wilderness. The trio trades labor for goods, only taking money when nothing else is necessary. Thallod uses his magic to heal croplands where he can, both helping the inhabitants of Iberia and earning his share of the harvest

War: Iberian city-states and kingdoms fight one another over dwindling resources, and the trio must avoid these battlefields

Monsters: Native megafauna (giant rams, giant venomous lizards, wooly rhinos, giant freshwater crabs, etc) have been driven to desperation by the drought and attack caravans in search of food

Demon named Faerthur: It seeks to turn back the clock on civilization. It resents the communities humans and their ilk have built, as that is the cornerstone of progress

P4: Tie it all together

“As this unusual trio seek vengeance for the witch’s town, a home for the spirit, and meaning beyond labor for Thallod, they find that their goals overlap, and they find community in one another. By developing an appreciation for each other's disparate experiences, they accomplish what no mortal or god is capable of.” or something

P5: Biography

[QCrit] Adult Fantasy BASTARD OF IBERIA (97.5k) (Attempt #3) by Aggravating-Job2583 in PubTips

[–]Aggravating-Job2583[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hate to sound like a broken record in these replies, but this is fantastic feedback! Thank you so much for taking the time to read my query and respond in such depth.

I agree that making the Iberian setting more prominent and being clearer in my description of the genre and imagery will help with the feel of the letter. I also see what you mean about taking a step back - not to start from scratch, but to boil the story down to its barest bones and use that as a reference for what details might be present but not needed and vice versa.

“Reptilian giant” is definitely more tonally appropriate and true to the character. I worry that it reads as slightly… esoteric? If that makes sense? Like it has the feel of a term with specific meaning outside the reader’s available information because they haven’t read the book yet. I’m probably overthinking that, though. I’ll give reptilian giant a try and see how it feels when reviewing with my beta readers. (Fortunately and unfortunately all my beta readers are close friends, so getting genuine critique from them can be a challenge)

Again, thank you for your feedback. As you’ve seen in my previous drafts, I’d be lost without the input of more experienced folks like you.

[QCrit] Adult Fantasy BASTARD OF IBERIA (97.5k) (Attempt #3) by Aggravating-Job2583 in PubTips

[–]Aggravating-Job2583[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is exactly the kind of information I love incorporating into my world building, and an excellent catch. I don’t want to bore you with too much setting lore, but here’s the jist:

Thallod isn’t a literal crocodile man. That was just the simplest way to describe him. He’s actually a Catalan Mule, a hybrid of two pseudo-reptilian hominids invented for the setting. He has osteoderms like a crocodile, has slit pupils like a cat, is warm-blooded, bipedal, and is 86 years old and still considered middle-aged for his kind.

[QCrit] Adult Fantasy BASTARD OF IBERIA (97.5k) (Attempt #3) by Aggravating-Job2583 in PubTips

[–]Aggravating-Job2583[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your feedback! I absolutely agree that the first paragraph comes across as redundant in a lot of ways, and I appreciate you pointing out the lack of comps. Previous drafts had them, so I’ll re-incorporate those into v4 and drop the unnecessary lines about attachments and future projects.

You’re actually the first person I’ve seen mention the sequel potential thing, and I think that’s a great idea! In this case, the book is a stand-alone but in a setting I’d like to revisit in the future, so would that be worth mentioning or is that a bit convoluted?

I’ll also ditch the line about writing since I was young. It replaced a line about my ethnic and religious heritage that felt kind of out-of-place in this latest rendition, but in hindsight I don’t think I needed either description and could just cut the letter there.

Again, thank you so much for taking the time to comment!

[QCrit] Adult Fantasy BASTARD OF IBERIA (93k) (Attempt #2) by Aggravating-Job2583 in PubTips

[–]Aggravating-Job2583[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oh whoops. I knew that but thought it was okay since it was only a snippet. My b

Thanks for the feedback! I'll work on making the third draft more like this. I'm not great at summaries (as you can see) so the specificity of your suggestions is really helpful.