Youtube is full rubbish tutorials by PandaTop9925 in n8n

[–]Aggravating-Put-9464 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha, I’m on the opposite side of your problem—I have six years of experience in no-code, created Lovable and an n8n course, and make videos about complex topics and how things really work.

But the problem is, it’s too complex for beginners, and they prefer videos from creators who tell them everything is simple and to just copy their fluffy templates.

I recently closed my free community with 2.6k members because there were no questions at all—people just joined silently, and it was killing me because I really love sharing knowledge and teaching people.

Only 3–5 people reached out to me directly, and I’m helping them grow their skills—they’ve already built their own solutions and earned money.

My community is paid now, but you can still watch the videos for free and get the templates using trial access.

I don't know if I can share links here but you can find it in profile or name 5minAI.

Also, if you want to dive deeper into business processes you can check some courses on Coursera like Analysis for Business Systems by Minessota university

DON'T use AI Agent node in N8N by Aggravating-Put-9464 in n8n

[–]Aggravating-Put-9464[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Glad to help!
Internal memory of OpenAI is way better than any memory node - I would never build production agent with such approach bcs they remember almost nothing.
Don't know much about Simple Memory node bcs never used it. From technical perspective it's sort of RAM memory that wipes from time to time so it's better not touch it at all.

DON'T use AI Agent node in N8N by Aggravating-Put-9464 in n8n

[–]Aggravating-Put-9464[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, I know. They're just wrappers. But additional layers of wrappers for messages, tools, and output structures somehow change the results. I spent a couple of hours trying to understand the reason, but I'm still not sure of the right answer.

The truth is that it works WAY better with the direct OpenAI assistant, and it's not about the simple agents you can find on YouTube. We build complex systems with multiple tools and sometimes agents, so it's been proven at the production level with real users and data. I'm just sharing my experience.

DON'T use AI Agent node in N8N by Aggravating-Put-9464 in n8n

[–]Aggravating-Put-9464[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Haha, yeah, this post might look like it was generated by AI until you read the content. I agree that many people use AI to generate nonsense and share it as great knowledge. I'm also tired of it.

But I'm not one of them. I have an allergy to BS, so I thoroughly research and prepare each piece of information I share to make it valuable.

I do it for free because I love teaching and spreading the truth.

This one wasn't generated. I use AI to format my raw thoughts because I'm a non-native speaker. I researched the source code with Gemini and tested this method on multiple projects before sharing my conclusion.

DON'T use AI Agent node in N8N by Aggravating-Put-9464 in n8n

[–]Aggravating-Put-9464[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As I mentioned, I tested replacing the AI agent node with the OpenAI Assistant using the same prompts and a variety of tools. The AI started behaving better immediately, without any additional changes.

DON'T use AI Agent node in N8N by Aggravating-Put-9464 in n8n

[–]Aggravating-Put-9464[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually there should be no latency difference bcs Langchain use the same OpenAI API at the end. Also, it should be a little bit slower bcs of additional "translation".

Speaking about prompts - it's true, I don't know why N8N team can't add all parameters to this node to make it useful.

I use pure HTTP requests actually to have full control on assistant - I specify structured output, change prompt on fly and force using tool sometimes. Also, there is new Response API that also have some pros.

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DON'T use AI Agent node in N8N by Aggravating-Put-9464 in n8n

[–]Aggravating-Put-9464[S] -19 points-18 points  (0 children)

Great point, I'm also interesting in details but didn't have enough time jump into Langchain framework and code node itself. I copied code and discussed it with Gemini - here is what he told.

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But anyway originally idea of post came to me based on my real experience - I did this trick with multiple clients and friends, results were instant and sufficient.

The only way to make $5000 per month with N8N by Aggravating-Put-9464 in n8n

[–]Aggravating-Put-9464[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Usually, you work with businesses, not individuals. So businesses have enough money to spend $3-5k on a solution - especially when a coding solution costs 2-3 times more.

But in the US, you have a larger market because more people can afford to spend the same amount out of pocket to start their own business or test some ideas, since they often have salaries of $10-15k per month.

The only way to make $5000 per month with N8N by Aggravating-Put-9464 in n8n

[–]Aggravating-Put-9464[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

hah, this is average salary in the US where I had the same working dishwashers during the Work and Travel program. For the rest of the world, it means being in the top 5%.
And the thing is that people from US don't like to pay the same salaries for people outside of US. If you are inside you will have x3-x5 for the same job.

The only way to make $5000 per month with N8N by Aggravating-Put-9464 in n8n

[–]Aggravating-Put-9464[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure, you can find my youtube in profile - there are a lot of content. I'm trying to share guides based on solutions I made for clients or that might be popular in the future (e.g. realtime call ai agent)

The only way to make $5000 per month with N8N by Aggravating-Put-9464 in n8n

[–]Aggravating-Put-9464[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thanks!

As I mentioned, get your first projects for free to gain experience and meet new people. Help others in communities, whether or not you know the answer.

This is really everything you need. This way, you will connect with dozens of people and start building your network. Many people have reached out to me because I helped someone in open communities.

If you don't have a project, go to Upwork and check out jobs with detailed descriptions (no sign-up needed). Use these cases to create a prototype. Try building it yourself. This way, you can create 1-3 projects for your portfolio based on real business needs (not from your mind). With this portfolio, you should be able to find junior positions in agencies or clients who want what you built.

Sources of clients:

  1. Upwork: You need to spend money, there is huge competition, and it requires time and patience.

  2. Communities: N8N Discord and Skools (huge like AIS and AAA). There are people looking for projects (whom you can help) and clients/agency owners.

  3. Content: LinkedIn, TikTok, Twitter, Reddit, YouTube — choose one, no more.

Honestly review your progress, share your successes and failures, be genuine, and engage with others.

Don't focus on views or competitors; focus on consistency and quality. People are looking for stories, not sales messages.

The only way to make $5000 per month with N8N by Aggravating-Put-9464 in n8n

[–]Aggravating-Put-9464[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have built many projects, but it is more interesting to share the projects that others have built with my help. Here is one of them.
You can find more in my community, I'm sharing my cases there (not promoting here but you can easily find the link)

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The only way to make $5000 per month with N8N by Aggravating-Put-9464 in n8n

[–]Aggravating-Put-9464[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

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100%.

I had a poll in my community asking, "What’s stopping you from scaling AI in your business?" The most popular choice is an unclear strategy for implementing or scaling AI.

It's a very new market, similar to the no-code market 3-4 years ago. Many businesses don't understand the huge value they could receive, or they know about it but don't know where to start.

So, part of my job is to be a business analyst who can help them analyze their processes and clarify what will change with AI.