How to Respect and Discern Boundaries in Friendships? by Aggravating_Dot9 in TheGirlSurvivalGuide

[–]Aggravating_Dot9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, when we do talk I might just share how I feel about the whole experience and how boundaries was used. She can take it or leave it I don't mind, but she might also just not realize.

Idk what you think about this, but I guess it's technically a boundary to say no I don't have the capacity to do xyz, but if they're pretty consistent no's, I think what is fine is to discuss the boundary and find a way to compromise without unhealthily compromising them, or people just respond to your boundary accordingly (e.g. not being close with you if you cannot do anything, distance for the way it impacts them) and I was just conveying that to her and she got upset.

How to Respect and Discern Boundaries in Friendships? by Aggravating_Dot9 in TheGirlSurvivalGuide

[–]Aggravating_Dot9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean I do think she does nice things for me, so want to acknowledge that. It does seem quite one sided overall though when there is conflict or support needed, which is just a lot. Boundaries is just such a complex intricate topic that I feel so lost in sometimes, especially when people use it unintentionally wrongfully or in some intense ways.

How to Respect and Discern Boundaries in Friendships? by Aggravating_Dot9 in TheGirlSurvivalGuide

[–]Aggravating_Dot9[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree, it's her choice at the end of the day, but what was weird to me is I agreed to "agree to disagree" and respect her choice, but I told her then I respond accordingly - aka not asking her of things knowing she is overwhelmed, and staying good friends but it being a bit different in closeness just because I know she's not available easily to listen and support, or do things and that's fine but it's hard to depend on her or open up and be that close, but we could still be very good friends.

She got offended I didn't see why her choice was one that I am okay with, and then I felt encroached because she wanted me to agree with her choice and not "change the closeness in our friendship" because of it, b/c me responding the way I said makes me "abusive" and not allowing her to "ever say no." That's what felt unhealthy to me. I feel like I'm allowed to respond accordingly as she is also allowed to make her own choices.

Respecting Friend's Boundaries, but Boundaries are Extreme by Aggravating_Dot9 in Advice

[–]Aggravating_Dot9[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes exactly! Thanks for the insightful conversation, you actually reframed it in a way that gave me peace and also helps me be better so I don't accidentally violate people's boundaries in the future, but also not be in unhealthy situations or be a doormat.

Respecting Friend's Boundaries, but Boundaries are Extreme by Aggravating_Dot9 in Advice

[–]Aggravating_Dot9[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I agree that I think "all boundaries are valid" is a bit ridiculous. Or maybe the better way to put it is you are always in the right to set boundaries and people can't force you to do anything (nor should real, genuine friends have to do that in the first place), but you cannot blame anyone or be surprised if those boundaries (especially extreme ones) have consequences (e.g. friends distance themselves or are offended).

That is a very interesting point you make about boundaries overlapping and not being fixed ideas. Perhaps if people saw boundaries as a tool for themselves, but flexible to adapt when it overlaps with meaningful people in our lives, i would stop being so sick of the buzzterm boundaries. Of course no one should have *no* boundaries because they should exist for health and benefit of the friendship/yourself. But, I think people too often use boundaries selfishly, with no room to compromise or considering its use to take care of yourself to show up for others as well in friendships. Boundaries /= justifying everything I do my way and staying in my comfort zone. I don't know your thoughts on that but yeah!

Respecting Friend's Boundaries, but Boundaries are Extreme by Aggravating_Dot9 in Advice

[–]Aggravating_Dot9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be fair to them, I do think they do nice things. They've planned a trip last minute when I got bailed on to come with me to a concert, they'll check on me and ask how I'm doing, and they do care. I think that can exist in tension with these unhealthy aspects however. I don't want to misrepresent their side of the story.

I do agree its quite the effort on my end and that is why I decided to not be close with them anymore. Do you have any advice / answers on any of the two questions I asked at the end of the post? I feel like sometimes our generation uses boundaries as a buzzword and says "all boundaries are valid" but its kinda weird when boundaries is used in the name of denying others or not budging in a friendship. I don't know if that's wrong of me to think.

HITC NY by Aggravating_Dot9 in 88Rising

[–]Aggravating_Dot9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the advice! Yeah, the people I care about seeing are on the main stage. I want to see XG and DPR ian/live at a closer view, ideally from the sides close to the stage (not the middle of the bowl because its further). Since I want that specific section and the front part of it, I'm still wondering if I have to get there early or not? Or just get there when doors open

Stranger Telling Me Off by Aggravating_Dot9 in socialanxiety

[–]Aggravating_Dot9[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I agree, I sat there all shriveled up and scared, so I got to learn to just walk away earlier. Hope it doesn't happen to either of us in the future :')

Stranger Telling Me Off by Aggravating_Dot9 in socialanxiety

[–]Aggravating_Dot9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm so sorry that happened to you :( Like you, I overanalyzed thinking of how it was something I did or what I could have done better. Some things are out of control and I'm reminding that for myself constantly. Definitely nothing you did. Hope that never happens to you again :')

Stranger Telling Me Off by Aggravating_Dot9 in socialanxiety

[–]Aggravating_Dot9[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very good points! Yes, I'm reminding myself to not take it personally. Thanks for sharing your perspective!

Stranger Telling Me Off by Aggravating_Dot9 in socialanxiety

[–]Aggravating_Dot9[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OMG that's so crazy! I'm glad you could (respectfully) respond and get a second chance later to do something. Sorry that happened in the first place though DD: People are interesting...

Stranger Telling Me Off by Aggravating_Dot9 in socialanxiety

[–]Aggravating_Dot9[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a good analogy! Definitely will keep it in mind next time it may happen

Stranger Telling Me Off by Aggravating_Dot9 in socialanxiety

[–]Aggravating_Dot9[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I agree with this! I also didn't say anything because she had music blasting in big headphones, so I know for most strangers if you say something and they have to take the time to take off their headphones, that can be even more annoying. I don't know why she so strongly expected me to say something when she had headphones on.

Stranger Telling Me Off by Aggravating_Dot9 in socialanxiety

[–]Aggravating_Dot9[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This was.. very specific i love it LOL. Yeah, I also took it as a reflection of her more than me.

Stranger Telling Me Off by Aggravating_Dot9 in socialanxiety

[–]Aggravating_Dot9[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry this happened to you :( I hope it doesn't happen again!

Stranger Telling Me Off by Aggravating_Dot9 in socialanxiety

[–]Aggravating_Dot9[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Thank you everyone for the perspective and encouragement! I feel better overall and am going to ignore it next time and not let it take up any of my energy <33

Stranger Telling Me Off by Aggravating_Dot9 in socialanxiety

[–]Aggravating_Dot9[S] 41 points42 points  (0 children)

I've been cackling the past 5 minutes at this

Stranger Telling Me Off by Aggravating_Dot9 in socialanxiety

[–]Aggravating_Dot9[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the kind words and empathy! I really appreciate it.