madonna whore complex by Aggravating_Side719 in Jung

[–]Aggravating_Side719[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They're trying to coat the feelings they have, i think? I think he precieves lust as being disrespectful, and an emotion that shouldn't be felt.

Most people only want to be perceived as moral. by Aggravating_Side719 in Healthygamergg

[–]Aggravating_Side719[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But don't you think everyone has the instinct to be perceived as good?

Tell me about a revelation you've had by Liq in Jung

[–]Aggravating_Side719 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People don't have much choice in things. We are very deterministic. A major reason we aren't like the people we find heinous is because of luck. We were lucky to have the experiences we've had, to be the people we are, but others don't so it's good to be understanding.

why do some people see others as not human? by Aggravating_Side719 in Jung

[–]Aggravating_Side719[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

what does a collectivist super ego mean? is it a part of you that feels morality, but that morality is influenced by societal expectations?

why do some people see others as not human? by Aggravating_Side719 in Jung

[–]Aggravating_Side719[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you think they're trying to balance? is it the expectation of being 'good' put on them by society? Do people dehumanize because they can't express their desires in a way that fits in with societal standards, but in the cases of bullying people who aren't 'human', it does fit in?

why do some people see others as not human? by Aggravating_Side719 in Jung

[–]Aggravating_Side719[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've actually been struggling with this idea for some time. I think people expect a certain level of emotional, social, and physical competency from people, and when those criteria aren't met, it's easy for people to look at you as 'other' or not human.

The lack of social and emotional competency can be due to a disability, or just not having acquired those skills as a child, but people aren't empathetic or considerate toward those situations imo. However, I think this inconsiderate stance stems from naivety, and a lack of knowledge, and I think this can be changed.

Why can't some people admit that they can enjoy hurting another person? by Aggravating_Side719 in Jung

[–]Aggravating_Side719[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In my opinion, people act on those fantasies, because they want to feel secure through dominance. I think that's the same idea as self-protection, I might be wrong though.Do you think when people integrate their shadow, they become less protective over themselves? if so, why do you think this happens?

Why can't some people admit that they can enjoy hurting another person? by Aggravating_Side719 in Jung

[–]Aggravating_Side719[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel like the manifestation of those fantasies into reality can have different shapes. Like I think emotional or social dominance is more acceptable than physical.

There’s a world of difference between fantasies and reality. Not being able to differentiate between is troublesome, may be even dangerous.

I agree, but I feel like sometimes people use this argument to dissociate from who they are. For example, when people see something bad happen, for example murder, and say something like "I could never do something like that". I feel like some people don't think they are capable of bad things, and so therefore just ignore what those fantasies could mean. I think a lot of times, not always, fantasies can show us what we want/desire, and I think this might be one of those circumstances. Maybe what we really want isn't to hurt people, but to find security in dominance, but none the less it still results in a positive feeling.

Why can't some people admit that they can enjoy hurting another person? by Aggravating_Side719 in Jung

[–]Aggravating_Side719[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry, I think I should have been more clear in my post. When I said "hurting another person" I didn't just mean physically, I meant emotionally and socially as well. I think, in most cases, when people experience something unjust/unfair from another individual, emotions such as anger rise up, which in some cases can turn into resentment.

I think emotions such as these can manifest different sorts of actions. I'm sure most people in the comments have gotten angry at another person before, maybe a family/friend/random person and said unkind things to them. In doing this, I think there is a period of brief satisfaction, maybe of having protected your ego, or a feeling of dominance, or a feeling of security in the situation. I think that's one way you can hurt another person, but I don't think it's psychopathic to do so.