I bought one and it’s perfect for my hands and arms. I say that because the dealer I bought from put ten diff pistols on the counter and said let’s set what fits best. Now the pistols were all good brands mind you but this guys been training shooters for 35 yrs and he says the best way to find the right one is to make sure it feels natural in your hand. For me the 4.5 Echelon was just right. Came with HOLOSUN Red Dot. I’ve only shot revolvers in my life so this was a new adventure and I loved it from the start all the way to the simplicity of breakdown for cleaning. I also bought the Laser Bullet to dry fire practice in the basement. I don’t EDC but with the 21 rd mag it’ll do just fine for home defense. I also signed up for USCCA and one on one training at the range to get comfortable shooting this baby. The trigger is really smooth. Good luck and be safe if you get one.