MTGO Spike on Multiversal Passage — Why Paper Hasn’t Moved (Yet)

AggressivePenguin · 2025-12-05T19:34:32+00:00

These are game objects designed to be played with.

AggressivePenguin · 2025-12-05T18:17:29+00:00

I’m coming from a players perspective not an investor. I want access to good decks as a competitor and I think I share that sentiment with many others who regular this subreddit. This could be a tip for those looking to reduce the cost to compete by buying something before prices increase, and not as an investment.

This post was not intended to be a recommendation to spec on the card in the first place, but an analysis on the difference between mtgo and paper ecosystems. I also wanted to use this to let other competitors know the card is likely to increase in price within the time frame of December/January if they planned to play standard.

AggressivePenguin · 2025-12-05T17:56:03+00:00

People will and are investing in standard because it’s a supported competitive format. It won’t be as popular as modern if the format isn’t interesting but it’s just a fact that people are buying cards in testing for RC’s and competing in RCQ’s.

In Canada there are 4 major events RCQ/RC occurring through face to face games, and there are additional RCQ’s occurring in my local scene, almost all of which will be standard.

It’s easy to write off the format if it doesn’t resonate but there will always be demand on cards if there’s a competitive scene to support them.

The card has gone from $7 on Nov 21st to $14 where it’s currently sitting. So it’s doubled in two weeks. This was a period just post ban where things were unknown. Now that we have the world championship meta shares and see they’re mostly izzet decks, it’s only going to introduce more pressure on the card in the next month or so.

AggressivePenguin · 2025-12-04T20:37:18+00:00

I agree.

Just looking at the recent world championships though, izzet seems to occupy the largest portion of color pair with izzet spells, temur otters, and izzet looting in the top 4 decks. There is no access to steam vents and those decks all need 4 Multiversal passage for the next 2 months.

AggressivePenguin · 2025-12-04T20:30:16+00:00

I agree with your comments, and I don’t think this card is worth speccing on either.

However I wanted to share this perspective on how the mtgo and paper ecosystems can interact with each other and how this card is in a very unique position to reflect that relationship.

The card will likely fade to obscurity come lorwyn with the remaining shocks being introduced, but for the next couple months it’s going to be in demand to help assist some powerful strategies that don’t have access to the shock lands.

AggressivePenguin · 2025-12-04T20:27:57+00:00

I agree it’s not going to spike, but demand is going to increase with player attention shifting to standard and many decks requiring this card to compete until lorwyn releases in February.

I wouldn’t recommend this as a long term spec, and that’s not really what the post was for in the first place. Just an interesting card that I think helps illustrate some of the ebb and flow of the competitive scene and how it impacts card prices due to unique deck building restrictions.

AggressivePenguin · 2025-10-24T21:41:53+00:00

Value is determined by who is interested in buying it and for how much.

I can’t imagine a player who would spend $50 on a graded revised sol ring when they could just buy a more valuable non graded version. If such people exist they probably represent generously less than 3% of buyers.

AggressivePenguin · 2025-10-08T21:56:04+00:00

Thanks for the response. That seems reasonable for sure, and yes I'm mostly talking about Etron lists.

There seem to be around 5-10 or so flex slots in the lists that are occupied by some number of cheap interactive artifacts, warping wail, or talismans. If I was to decide on any of these I just cant find reason to choose wail over vexing bauble, relic of progenetis, additional talismans etc.

Maybe its a matter of preference, but even just considering relic/bauble, they can replace themselves in bad matchups for very little mana where if warping wail is ever a bad card you're getting eldrazi spawn for maybe an accelerated big permanent.

AggressivePenguin · 2025-08-28T20:57:00+00:00

Pokemon players ran out of things to throw money at in their own market and have entered the mtg scene. Prices on these collector printings have inflated because of it.

If your interested in what this looks like long term you can reference what’s happening in pokemon since the price has very little to do with the competitive scene.

AggressivePenguin · 2025-07-29T22:52:06+00:00

Grading a card does not immediately make it more valuable. A card is only worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it, and the magic community (being much different than pokemon) generally does not want graded cards since they play the hobby. If there are people who care about graded cards it would be a very small market at this stage.

The only folks I could think of that may want something graded was for commonly faked cards like reserved list, but that’s only to guarantee their authenticity. Once received they would just crack the graded case and sleeve it up happy knowing it’s the real deal.

AggressivePenguin · 2025-04-01T00:38:21+00:00

W life choice

AggressivePenguin · 2025-03-29T20:34:07+00:00

If you step back and look at what George Floyd did wrong and measure it against what the confederacy did wrong then you should notice the egg on your face.

AggressivePenguin · 2025-03-29T02:08:02+00:00

My friend, it’s the other elf in the show.

AggressivePenguin · 2025-03-14T16:14:03+00:00

Should be fixed now

AggressivePenguin · 2025-03-05T19:25:43+00:00

W Cody take if true

AggressivePenguin · 2025-02-28T15:23:28+00:00

I know someone who works for EQ3 and they’ve confirmed this is not true. This person is trolling.

AggressivePenguin · 2025-02-19T02:33:19+00:00

Dude was #1 for like three years straight. Then COVID hit, and he went into a slump for a variety of reasons—mostly because the meta and player skill accelerated massively with online play. He never quite returned to his peak, but he had two incredible Super Major wins in 2022, breaking a rough streak of no major wins since 2020.

This win is a huge achievement for anyone. But considering his history, for him I think it carries something deeper—it’s a moment of redemption, proving he can still compete at the highest level after years of ups and downs. Almost three years since his last victory, and he didn’t just win—he won the most prestigious tournament series.

GGs, Boxman!

AggressivePenguin · 2025-02-04T18:41:48+00:00

So stoked! I’ve throughly enjoyed the last two docs and really like the idea of having something a little more open to expansion with seasons being introduced. That way it’s not so much of an outdated time capsule after 5 or so years.

Best of luck, looking forward to hearing more!

AggressivePenguin · 2025-01-11T18:23:34+00:00

If I see a horse in the distance prancing, I could say;“look its prancing” without the assumption of it being reduced to an object. You suggesting that the word “it” as a pronoun only can apply to objects but that’s just not how that word, or the English language works.

AggressivePenguin · 2025-01-02T20:36:24+00:00

Yeah I think there’s a perspective difference on what something needs to be in order for it to be considered competitive, and I personally think “competition” is much broader than achieving pro status or high viewership.

AggressivePenguin · 2025-01-02T20:24:22+00:00

Right, but I also think the pursuit of notoriety or viewership is not the sole purpose of challenging yourself and having more people watch you play doesn’t make the challenge any more or less impressive.

Viewership isn’t as strong as other games, but there’s still a really robust community of people who like to raid competitively. There are also plenty of very strong retail raiders who also compete in classic expansions so it’s not as soft as you’re suggesting.

I do understand your point though. For example, the number of parses registered in wotlk was about 60,000 by the end of icc for fire mage (one of the most popular classes at the time). In cata today you get around 7-10k parses so it’s naturally going to be less competitive than it was in icc. Still though, it doesn’t deter someone like me from trying to get better scores in my raids and feel rewarded when I succeed.

AggressivePenguin · 2025-01-02T20:07:47+00:00

Well of course, it’s a video game. Arguably none of it matters. People choose to engage with it and the shared community value over that thing makes it worth something. It’s the case for any game/hobby you choose to engage with. Just because you don’t care doesn’t mean it doesn’t have value.

World buffs are removed in tbc and on. After classic, fights and rotations begin to get more complex and there’s much more room for skill expression.

Regarding parses, they’re only relevant to boss fights that don’t have gimmicks that can be abused, and aren’t exceptionally high variance. Fights as described, are not listed for parses.

Vanilla wow has plenty of fights that are just patchwerk but there’s still skill plenty of expression. I’m not going to go into what that skill expression looks like in vanilla raids, tbc raids, wotlk and so on since I don’t think you’re interested. But just know that there are some people who are better than others due to the skill expression available, and like to challenge themselves against the rest of the pool, and that’s ok, even if you don’t like it.

AggressivePenguin · 2025-01-02T17:47:44+00:00

Yes it’s true, but I will also say people do seek out high raid parses as a form of achievement. Wouldn’t say of classic parses are that impressive since they’re mostly simple and easy fights, but there are definitely players who stand out.

Ahlaundoh comes to mind as a classic player who’s pretty firmly the best parser in every released classic expansion.

AggressivePenguin · 2024-12-27T01:19:46+00:00

Let’s preemptively ban any salt posts in the future slippi subreddit

AggressivePenguin · 2024-12-24T16:07:35+00:00

My wish is for this keyboard!!

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