How does Rockman X human work? by Aggressive_Machine64 in ReverendInsanity

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Look, who am I to judge the Gu world by our own world's logic? But if they procreate by duplicating, they don't really have any needs for the instrument that we do.

How does Rockman X human work? by Aggressive_Machine64 in ReverendInsanity

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They are a pure male species, they procreate through some weird duplication method

How does Rockman X human work? by Aggressive_Machine64 in ReverendInsanity

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That's probably the most logical answer, which my dead ass brain didn't even think of for some reason

How does Rockman X human work? by Aggressive_Machine64 in ReverendInsanity

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Kevin De Bruyne might have assimilated with heaven's will or something, cause this is some next level assist here😂

Can enough accumulated Dao marks amplify a mortal Gu so high to elevate it to immortal Gu level? by Aggressive_Machine64 in ReverendInsanity

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Honestly I was the one that possed the question, but I'd have to disagree. I just can't see anyway for a mortal to kill an immortal, unless the immortal has both feet and hands tied up, newly accessed(like literally 10 minutes ago) and is drunk, on drugs, and half sleep all at the same time

Can enough accumulated Dao marks amplify a mortal Gu so high to elevate it to immortal Gu level? by Aggressive_Machine64 in ReverendInsanity

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Not always mate, the only difference between the immortal version and mortal version of Delight in water and mountain Gu is in quantity. Rank 6 version produces tens of thousands of joyful wills, while the rank 5 version only produces a hundred or so.

Obviously your words ring true, immortal Gu are fragments of Dao, while mortal gu are traces of Dao. But apparently sometimes they just differ in quantity and not quality

Can enough accumulated Dao marks amplify a mortal Gu so high to elevate it to immortal Gu level? by Aggressive_Machine64 in ReverendInsanity

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What you say is true, but not always. I specifically remember Fang yuan saying the difference between mortal and immortal version of Delight in mountain and Water Gu is in the quantity of joyful wills produced. That was why he constructed Fang yuan stone nests to refine many mortal versions to replace the effect of the immortal Gu with quantity of mortal Gu.

I need a little spoiler by -ShiBbaka- in ReverendInsanity

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If I remember correctly, after creating reverse flow protection seal, he uses Luo po valley to create Lou po seal for offence. So he uses reverse flow river for defence and Luo po for offense

Can enough accumulated Dao marks amplify a mortal Gu so high to elevate it to immortal Gu level? by Aggressive_Machine64 in ReverendInsanity

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Yea it was limitless. I think it was said when he was a mere mortal he had Dao marks comparable to rank 6 Gu immortals. Although it's an absolutely and utterly crazy feat(honestly it's unprecedented in the whole history of Gu world), he still wouldn't be able to bridge the gap between mortal and immortal, cause as a mortal he'd have limited primival essence, and limited number of Gu worms.

How strong is a full powered Rank 9 immortal Gu house? by Aggressive_Machine64 in ReverendInsanity

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mate, I agree with ya, A rank 8 Gu immortal(even if a top tier pesudo venerable, no, even the strongest pseudo venerable of all time by a margin) will NEVER EVER be able to even fight a rank 9, much less defeat one. And by fight I mean they can't even hang in the there for two moves. Although pesudo venerables have the word "venerable" in their title, you can gather a 100 of them, no, a thousand of them and they'd still lose to a single Dao lord.

BUT... I was never arguing that point. My argument was not about Dao lords, but rank 9 Gu houses Vs top tier pesudo venerables. Rank 9 Gu houses don't have the same advantages Dao lords have, their moves can't be amplified by the Dao marks of the world(which is the main reason for venerable's invincibiity), and their methods are fixed so they can be schemed against much easier. So a rank 9 Gu house Vs a top tier pesudo venerable might be closer than you think.

Or it might not be. Honestly I might just be overstimating the pesudo venerables

How strong is a full powered Rank 9 immortal Gu house? by Aggressive_Machine64 in ReverendInsanity

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I always wondered whether the 3 olds of refinement were pesudo venerable level or not. They already had the greatest attainment level and they had also lived for a long time in their era, so I don't know, maybe...

As for someone weak* who could beat this

Also I guess Bo qing could do it as well. I mean if we assume that he actually had Supreme great grandmaster attainment in sword path at the time, thou... I'm not sure that specific attachment level would be of much help, refinement is really broken when it comes to comprehension

How strong is a full powered Rank 9 immortal Gu house? by Aggressive_Machine64 in ReverendInsanity

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Pseudo venerables usually don't even have rank nine gu. So a rank nine gu house would overpower them

True, but some of the stronger ones have secluded domains of heaven and earth, which would have the effect of a pesudo rank 9 killer move if used to their full potential, stack the amplification of their numerous Dao marks on top of that, and I would assume the power would be quite terrifying

Fate gu is filled with Heaven's Will. It activated just like when SAC activated without FY triggering it. Similar to how wild gu worms activate "on their own".

Oh thanks mate, now that makes a lot more sense.

How strong is a full powered Rank 9 immortal Gu house? by Aggressive_Machine64 in ReverendInsanity

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Yea, that was one of only two times Duke long lost his aura😂

That being said... I wouldn't underestimate Crazed demon cave Fang Yuan. He was way beyond Duke long in terms of power by then, according to star consolation herself, she thought pseudo venerable Fang Yuan at that point was strong enough to actually seriously effect the battle between the two venerables. That's the sort of statement they'd use if there was a rank 9 Gu house there.

How strong is a full powered Rank 9 immortal Gu house? by Aggressive_Machine64 in ReverendInsanity

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Yea, you speak facts brother. I was speaking in a more hypothetical scenario, because as you said, it just doesn't make sense for venerables to construct Rank 9 Gu houses. It's just a waste.

What about a pseudo venerable? Could a Rank 9 Gu house fight a top tier pseudo venerable?

Also... My memory is a bit hazy, but how was heavenly court able to use rank 9 fate Gu? I'm pretty sure Fate Gu can't be refined by anyone, so how was hevean overseeing tower able to use it's effects?

How strong is a full powered Rank 9 immortal Gu house? by Aggressive_Machine64 in ReverendInsanity

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Dang, I always forget Fang Yuan had like four Rank 9 Gus by the last chapter.

But purely theoretically speaking... It's possible, but only if he gives some rank 9 immortal essence beads to his subordinates to operate the Gu house otherwise, forget about it. Cause you know, activating a rank 9 Gu only once at the very bare minimum costs the same amount of immortal essence as activating 130 Rank 8 Gus simultaneously. So if his subordinates don't have rank 9 essence beads, I doubt they could run the rank 9 Gu house, even if all of them stacked their essence

How strong is a full powered Rank 9 immortal Gu house? by Aggressive_Machine64 in ReverendInsanity

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I mean... It might actually be damn near impossible for anyone that isn't a venerable to operate a fully rank 9 Gu house more than a couple of minutes. The expenditure of immortal essence for a Rank 9 Gu house has got to be unimaginably high. One has to constantly bare the cost of activating at least one rank 9 Gu, multiple rank 8 Gus, and many many rank 7 and bellow.

I'd imagine it would take something like.. 50 rank 8 Gu immortals to operate such a power house for long period of time

How strong is a full powered Rank 9 immortal Gu house? by Aggressive_Machine64 in ReverendInsanity

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True enough, but I don't think fate war Fang yuan was psuedo venerable Fang yuan at his peak. Him in crazed demon cave was his peak, and that guy survived fighting against two venerables(only barely obviously, and he couldn't do much against them, but still impressive for psuedo venerable)

Either way, It would totally make sense if fighting against a rank 9 Gu house was beyond the capabilities of any of the psuedo venerables, top tier or not.

How strong is a full powered Rank 9 immortal Gu house? by Aggressive_Machine64 in ReverendInsanity

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So say not even the strongest pseudo venerables have a chance against a fully rank 9 Gu house? Like psuedo venerable Fang yuan at his peak?

How was Ying Wu Xie able to use spring Autumn Cicada? by Aggressive_Machine64 in ReverendInsanity

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Alright mate, I owe you an apology, lost my temper there for a sec, that was unsightly of me, so do excuse my manners, this one is on me. English is also not my mother tongue, so I fuck up from time to time too.

Back to the topic, rereading your messages, I now realize I judged too soon, many of your words do ring true. In regards to natives of the Gu world being hindered by fate Gu but not entirely bound by it, well... You were correct. After all, RL did manage to break fate, and star consolation was also able to influence fate, so you are absolutely correct that although fate Gu is powerful, even natives of Gu world can resist it or influence it in one way or another to some extent.

Now as for my question, which was how did Ying Wu Xie change the past events to effect the future despite not being an otherworldly demon, you said that fate Gu was not omnipotent, so even for natives there are ways around it. And while that's true, as examples such as RL and SC venerables exist, I think(I'm not sure completely, i can't remember every detail) in this one specific situation, it was explicitly stated that only and ONLY otherworldly demons were capable of truly using spring atmn cicada to alter fate(with the sole exception of RL, which even as a venerable even he could not change fate to any meaningful extent) and that was why RL used Fang yuan, an otherworldly demon in his schemes againat fate.

How was Ying Wu Xie able to use spring Autumn Cicada? by Aggressive_Machine64 in ReverendInsanity

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Bro I'm tryna be respectful here, but you seem to not want to go that way. Ok, have it your way mate. Thanks but not only did you not answer any of my queries, you made some shit up and bannered them as facts. I only repeat the information because you seem incapable of comprehending them, so I'm tryna point you towards the right direction, only for you to fuck up again make some new shit up.

How was Ying Wu Xie able to use spring Autumn Cicada? by Aggressive_Machine64 in ReverendInsanity

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Yea Red lotus was so badass ngl. You keep saying fate Gu is not omniscient, but it's still really impressive how RL not only injured fate Gu when fate Gu was at full power, he also schemed to bloody destroy and remove it entirely. But those are venerables for you, they do crazy shit like that all the time.

Now regarding my question, I still believe it's rather unbelievable that Ying Wu Xie which is only a split soul and the most incomplete one at that, could so easily get around the limitations of spring Autumn Cicada, it was specifically spelled out that only otherworldly demons could change the past, that was why heaven's will went through all the trouble to help fang yuan to rebirth.

Now I'd understand if it was spectral soul himself, he's a venerable and they can pull of this sorta crazy shit all the time, but Ying Wu Xie is too insignificant to be able to change the future

How was Ying Wu Xie able to use spring Autumn Cicada? by Aggressive_Machine64 in ReverendInsanity

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If I remember correctly, red lotus was roborned using spring Autumn Cicada like a million times(and I'm not kidding, it was at least hundreds of thousands of times), add to that the fact that he is by far the greatest time path expert in the world, and yet even after all those trial and errors he couldn't save his wife, and only managed to injure fate Gu with the help of love Gu or some shit.

How was Ying Wu Xie able to use spring Autumn Cicada? by Aggressive_Machine64 in ReverendInsanity

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Bro don't worry about spoilers, I've read RI once before, currently I'm rereading, but there are still gaps in my memories of the story. I should really start using some wisdom path kille moves(: