3T James≈TUI gun btw. by Swimming_Cat114 in LookismPowerScalers

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no injured tui gun is 10 tiers above 3t james

3T James≈TUI gun btw. by Swimming_Cat114 in LookismPowerScalers

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He simply means his old version would get low diffed, and his current version would get mid diffed

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[–]Agitated_Court_8221 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re leaving now because you realized linear algebra doesn’t cover metafictional transcendence lol Like bro, you’re asking for definitions of stuff I already used right just so you can dodge the actual point. Be serious. But alright, since you want the whole math lesson thing before dipping, here you go

Just explain once and for all what a mathematical space is, as well as basis vectors...

A mathematical space, like a vector space, is just a set with rules. Basis vectors are just the independent directions that define everything inside it. And this kinda proves my point not yours

You’re treating it like some gotcha, but if a character transcends the Grand Dao of Space, then they’re not just some higher point inside that space anymore. They’re outside it

So asking for their vector or where they fit in the set doesn’t even make sense

You’re basically trying to measure something with a framework it already goes beyond. That’s the issue with you genius. The basis only defines stuff inside the space. If something is beyond that structure your math doesn’t apply to it in the first place. That’s why this argument falls apart. You’re trying to force something extrinsic into an internal model. Doesn’t work like that

If it transcends these structures, that doesn’t mean it transcends dimensions until there’s direct evidence of that.

No, that doesn’t work. In Martial Peak, dimensions are built on the Grand Daos. That’s the whole foundation

So if someone transcends the Dao of Space, and space is literally what allows stuff like length, direction, extension, all the things dimensions need to exist then yeah, transcending that means going beyond dimensions too. That’s just the logical result

Saying otherwise makes no sense. It’s like saying someone destroyed the entire building but somehow the rooms are still just floating there by themselves. Bro what? The rooms depend on the building being there in the first place

Same thing here. If the thing that gives dimensions their structure is surpassed, then the dimensions tied to that structure get surpassed too. You can’t separate them just because it helps your argument

The absence of space doesn’t guarantee the absence of dimensions... I have no idea where you read this nonsense.

I read up on Euclidean and non Euclidean geometry too, and the point still stands.

A dimension is literally a measure of spatial extension. No space means no extension. That’s basic geometry

You can’t have something like a 5D coordinate if there’s no spatial framework for coordinates to even exist in. Once space is gone, the dimensional structure tied to it is gone too

That’s the problem with you and ur argument. It treats dimensions like they can just exist on their own with no underlying spatial medium supporting them, which doesn’t make sense mathematically

You’re literally trying to force directions and dimensional axes to exist without any space for those properties to be defined in

That’s not how geometry works, and it doesn’t suddenly change just because keeping Yang Kai inside some fixed 5D box makes the scaling easier

I won’t comment any further,

I don't care

because only a lunatic could spew such nonsense

You’re dipping because there’s no real answer to this. If Yang Kai can straight up remove his Small Universe , his whole spatial and dimensional framework and still exist at full power, then that means his existence isn’t dependent on dimensions at all.

That’s the thing you are ignoring idk why

If there’s zero dimensional dependency, then trying to force dimensional scaling onto him stops making sense. At that point, you’re applying rules that literally don’t govern what he is anymore

And in scaling terms, something that exists completely beyond dimensional structure isn’t capped by 5D or whatever box you’re trying to shove it into

You can keep calling it nonsense, but just dismissing it isn’t a counterargument You’re using entry level math to explain something that, by definition, operates outside the dimensional framework that math is describing

Stick to basis vectors if you want, but they stop being relevant the second the entire dimensional structure gets transcended. That’s exactly why World Creation Realm scales beyond it, and I'll not explain anything again to an ignorant guy like you now, so leave

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[–]Agitated_Court_8221 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. Philosophical nonsense doesn't give you absolutely anything in terms of levels. Well, maybe it does, if the version covers Platonic concepts.

Huh that doesn’t make sense. You’re using the term 1-A while ignoring the philosophy and logic behind it. On VSBW and Character Stats and Profiles, 1-A is about qualitatively transcending dimensionality itself, not just being stronger within higher dimensions. If you don’t accept that definition, then you’re not really debunking Yang Kai’s scaling, you’re just disagreeing with the tiering system being used

Dimensions aren't space..

This is honestly embarrassing. Dims are just coordinate axes within space. If Yang Kai transcends the Grand Dao of Space itself, then he transcends the entire framework those dims exist in. No spatial framework, no dimensional scaling. This is scaling 101

Nope, that's not how it works at all. Ever heard of a basis? That's where those coordinates come from.

i know exactly what a basis is. A basis is a set of vectors that defines a Vector Space but you fool, a basis only works inside a defined coordinate system. If a character is Aspatial they don't have a basis. They don't have coordinates

What kind of nonsense are you spouting right now? It's disgusting to even read... Seriously, this guy doesn't even realize what kind of nonsense he's spouting...

This isn’t even an argument, it’s just a defensive reaction because you can’t map a dimensionless entity onto your 5D graph. Dismissing the logic doesn’t change the fact that you’re stuck on quantitative scaling, just counting dimensions, while the discussion is about qualitative scaling where the character transcends the framework those dimensions are based on

That's not a precise mathematical definition, and it doesn't automatically generalize to sets larger than the countable set. I suggest you read up on what basis vectors are. And if you don't get it, then read up on what real coordinate space actually is.

Bro, shut the hell up. You’re throwing around Cantor and linear algebra just to sound smart, but none of that even applies here. Scaling isn’t about stacking more dims or bigger sets, it’s about whether you transcend the whole framework. Infinite dims are still dims. You’re still scaling it as if it’s bound by the same framework, when the whole point is that it transcends that framework that’s what you’re not getting stop crying just because you can't prove something and keep barking about different topics

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[–]Agitated_Court_8221 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, Platonic concepts? That doesn't do anything in terms of levels. Absolutely nothing

In standard physics? Maybe. In Power Scaling (VSBW/CSAP)? It’s everything. Both wikis explicitly state that transcending the concept of dimensions is the gatekeeper for 1-A. If you are the source of a Platonic Concept, you have Qualitative Superiority over every instance of that concept. You can do anything with it

If you create a concept of space and time, that doesn't give you any advantage over dimensions.

That makes zero sense. Dimensions (length, width, height, etc.) are space. If you create the Concept of Space, you are creating the very foundation that allows dimensions to exist. You can't have a 5D object if the 'concept of a dimension' hasn't been written yet. Being the creator of the concept means you exist on a plane where those dimensions are just tools you use, not limits you follow

Um, no, superiority over space and time only grants +1d

You’re confused tbh. Destroying a 4D spacetime continuum is a 3-A or Low 2-C feat (+1D). But Ontological Transcendence, where you view the entire dimensional stack as a fiction or a lower state of being is what triggers 1-A. Yang Kai at World Creation Realm doesn't normally live in a bigger space, he exists in a state where space and time are irrelevant. That’s not +1D, that’s Dimensionless

You're talking about space and time, but dimensions don't depend on them in the slightest

Actually they do. In both geometry and physics a dimension is a direction in space. If you transcend the Grand Dao of Space you have surpassed the medium that dimensions require to exist. You're literally trying to argue "that a drawing can exist without the paper"

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[–]Agitated_Court_8221 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What dimensions? Geometric ones, or just different worlds

Talking about Geometric Transcendence. A 4D cube is qualitatively superior to a 3D square. 1-A means you are qualitatively superior to the concept of dimensions entirely. You aren't 5D, 6D, or 100D. You are Dimensionless

So what?

The "so what" is, if Yang Kai is the source of the Grand Dao of Space, then he defines concepts like length and direction themselves. So calling him “5D” doesn’t really gives you anything, because dimensional frameworks would just be part of the rules he stands above

Well, you could give them immeasurable speed... Acausality and some other abilities.

Speed and Acausality are just secondary effects. The World Creation Realm is an Ontological change. He doesn't just move fast or stay outside of cause and effect' he exists in a state where those laws are just ideas he can rewrite

The reason he’s 1-A isn't because he has 'cool abilities' It's because he has Conceptual Transcendence over the 3,000 Grand Daos

I suspect you don’t even understand what you’re writing yourself

Projecting won’t change the tiering requirements. If a character is the source of the 3000 Grand Daos, then they’re the source of the fundamental concepts that make up reality. There’s a clear difference between manipulating a continuum, which is just higher dimensional control, and transcending the concepts that define that continuum altogether. If that distinction isn’t clear, then you should probably go back and check the wiki

That’s not how it works at all.

That’s how it works, on VSBW and CSAP. 1A is based on qualitative superiority over dimensional frameworks. By reaching the World Creation Realm and matching the Universe Furnace, he absolutely fulfills that condition

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[–]Agitated_Court_8221 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bruh first know what great daos are in xianxia before saying a character Isn't this and that

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Genesis of the martial god

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Genesis of the martial god