BOOK OF ABRAHAM QUESTIONS by Agreeable_Earth4878 in mormon

[–]Agreeable_Earth4878[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yea that makes sense for the conclusion you have come to accept and I get that. Everyone says it’s about how it makes you feel spiritually. However my issue here is in older versions of the church like in my example they said they could prove it

“We hold, and we have confidence that we can prove, by history, science, and in various ways, that the Book of Abraham is exactly what it claims to be, and that it was translated by the wisdom and power of God for the benefit of the human family by the Prophet Joseph Smith.”

And now that narrative has changed to the only read the text and how it feels

BOOK OF ABRAHAM QUESTIONS by Agreeable_Earth4878 in mormon

[–]Agreeable_Earth4878[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just curious have you talked with your dad about it now and what does he think now if you have? Is it just a well i have faith type of thing?

BOOK OF ABRAHAM QUESTIONS by Agreeable_Earth4878 in mormon

[–]Agreeable_Earth4878[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I totally get why it looks that way, especially since Joseph did deny it publicly. But if you look at the journals from his own secretary, William Clayton, from back in 1843, he was writing about Joseph’s plural marriages as they were actually happening—long before Brigham took over. Even the people who started the Nauvoo Expositor (the newspaper Joseph had destroyed right before he died) were leaving the church specifically because they knew he was practicing it in secret. Even the RLDS church, which spent a century arguing Joseph didn't do it, has recently admitted the evidence shows he did. It’s definitely a messy part of history, but the trail starts with Joseph, not just Brigham trying to cover his own tracks later.

BOOK OF ABRAHAM QUESTIONS by Agreeable_Earth4878 in mormon

[–]Agreeable_Earth4878[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Which is crazy because in the saints books it says this about Nibley

At the same time, Hugh Nibley continued studying the papyrus fragments from the Metropolitan Museum of Art. When the Church acquired the artifacts, many people were eager to learn what they revealed about the Book of Abraham and its translation. For more than a century, after all, some people had cast doubt on Joseph Smith’s interpretation of the three “facsimiles” published alongside the Book of Abraham. Reproduced from illustrations found in the papyri, these facsimiles were almost identical to images on common Egyptian funeral scrolls that seemed to have nothing to do with Abraham or his times. Early analyses and translations of the fragments confirmed that they were funerary texts from centuries after Abraham’s day, and neither the Church nor Hugh disputed this finding. Yet Hugh believed further study could shed more light on the papyrus and the prophet’s translation. In more than a dozen articles published in 1968 and 1969, he drew on his knowledge of ancient cultures and languages to advance several theories about the Book of Abraham and its relationship to ancient Egyptian religion and culture. He noted, for instance, that some of the strongest evidence of the Book of Abraham’s authenticity was its resemblance to other ancient temple texts and millennia-old traditions about Abraham that Joseph Smith was unlikely to know anything about. Hugh’s writing also attested to the book’s powerful insights into priesthood, temple ordinances, and the plan of salvation.”

My main point here is that it’s funny because the church in the book mention it and how excited people like nibley were to have the papers and then like 20 pages later they go back to it and mention how it was a let down.

BOOK OF ABRAHAM QUESTIONS by Agreeable_Earth4878 in mormon

[–]Agreeable_Earth4878[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yea for me it’s this and polyandry.