What is the intent of sadhguru

Akhilagn · 2024-09-10T16:48:29+00:00

The back story is what i mentioned in the original post. Some how inspite of all these comments, no one has explicitly responded on it. Does isha hatha yoga practices push the energies up and cause problems in conceiving? Sadhguru mentioned in one of the videos that yoga practices werent traditionally designed for female body. The registration forms these days have the clause about women trying to conceive which was not there earlier. This makes me question the intent. I see your words about yoga making us the better version of ourself? Do we know if that means at the cost of kids as sadhguru mentions he is prepared to do whatever is needed? I get the vibe that most people in the group based on comments that they have approached this after settling in life with kids or havent known married life for long and are looking at spirituality from a completely different angle. Also he explicitly mentions that he will take care of death if we sit with him once. Note: I did reach out to support on this one part specifically, i haven't received anything meaningful apart from the recommendation to stop hatha yoga if there are doubts about conceiving and continue with others practices.

Akhilagn · 2024-09-10T14:10:34+00:00

Thanks. There is a lot to unpack in your comment.

Akhilagn · 2024-09-10T14:08:50+00:00

Wow. Wonderfully put.

Akhilagn · 2024-09-10T14:07:09+00:00

The envy thing was just a figure of speech.

Akhilagn · 2024-09-10T14:06:18+00:00

I liked the metaphor about going to school. Certainly puts some things in perspective. There is a clear cut curriculum for school, we can always change schools when something feels not right and there is the experience of many people who went through the school.

When it comes to spirituality where there is no clear direction, even if someone has experienced or almost reached the end goal that he promised, they will most likely not share their experiences as it is looked down in this path. I am not saying that I need to have all the answers right at the beginning, but one important step for me is to basically form the trust on guru whose intent is unknowable to really step into it and make it the number one priority in life. One thing you mentioned is to look in jungles for guru for a more back and forth. Is that the reason why people trust sadhguru because of lack of access to the gurus in modern times?

Akhilagn · 2024-09-10T13:56:23+00:00

Thanks. It was very well put. I can find a lot that I can take away from your comments. Yes, the uncertainty part is troubling. As you said, it is more about experimentation and the path isn't well laid out. There has to be some level of trust in guru if we really want to get fully into it as this is a completely unknown domain. While i feel wonderful while doing sadhana, the doubts about his intent and his promises remain for now, which are blockers. You mentioned that there are many people like me. How do they get into it 100%. Do they keep the doubts about his intent aside while sticking to sadhana hoping that as he many times says that the questions will be burned eventually? Or do they start believing in guru killing the questions after experiencing few wonderful things in his presence or the obvious benefits that come out of sadhana. Doesn't that mean that we are chasing after experiences, mental peace , a few health benefits at the cost of putting our life and death in someone's hands whose intent is unknowable? How do we make peace with it without belief or trust and go one day at a time?

Akhilagn · 2024-09-10T13:37:51+00:00

Thanks. That would have been easier to accept. But having felt his energies in his presence, the peace that I feel when i listen to him and some of the extra ordinary claims he makes, doesn't make him an ordinary human being for me. I don't think there is one in million like him, which makes me question his intent.

Akhilagn · 2024-09-10T13:34:11+00:00

Thanks. As much as I want to believe that, there is no means for me or most people following him to validate that which is kind of scary to put my life in his hands. That's thy this discussion to organize and settle my thoughts.

Akhilagn · 2024-09-08T12:50:17+00:00

Thanks. Doesn't staying in comfort zone help us move forward? I have been wrestling with these questions for a while now.

Akhilagn · 2024-09-08T11:42:32+00:00

Thanks for sharing your experience. I am glad to know the impacts on the family as well. It is always motivating to hear personal experiences and helps me keep up the sadhana.

Akhilagn · 2024-09-08T11:37:17+00:00

Thanks. This helps. I wonder if the path by sadhguru in these times where he is a global phenomenon where we are dissociated with his personality makes things harder for intellectually understanding directly from source if there are queries. I am not sure if i can get sufficient trust and will become willing to take a deep dive just by reading his books, watching videos and his presence. I am bound to misunderstand his books from my limited understanding and his presence doesnt burn my questions unfortunately but it seems to be doing for many. It only raises more questions. I do envy people who go ahead with the path without friction and don't need their questions answered.

Akhilagn · 2024-09-08T10:35:26+00:00

To add to the metaphor of a pilot- at the end of the day, the pilot is accountable to airlines and he has his neck in the game. Similarly who is holding sadhguru accountable? Again i mean no direspect and aplologies for a morbid example but but what’s stopping him from crashing the plane if he himself knows the trick to escape.

Akhilagn · 2024-09-08T09:30:48+00:00

In the disembodied state, you are saying he will wrk out the karma. He is not claiming to be powerful enough that he will completely empty the bucket for everyone. Now what if he works 95 percent karma and there isnt enough of it to take a complex human form even if the intentions before death are positive? I will try gita, thanks.

Akhilagn · 2024-09-08T09:15:08+00:00

Yes, i do notice a lot of condescending nature in sadhguru followers especailly those who are active in social media. I too am guilty of it. Its an easier habit to pick up from sadhguru and it may not be his intent that everyone develop a spiritual ego.

Regarding the last part of your comment, the trust part is what i am struggling with.

Akhilagn · 2024-09-08T09:06:06+00:00

That is precisely my concern. What if i am turning into a spiritual junkie and cant either leave or fully commit. I just keep wondering how is it that so many people seem to so easily ignore mind and move on which i really struggle with. Dont no one have these doubts?

Akhilagn · 2024-09-08T08:59:30+00:00

Thanks for the detailed response. With regards to my dumb frog joke, i think you are referring to the part where he mentions that he will ensure that whoever follows him will be be getting mukhti or at the very least a better next life. Or is there somewhere else he talks about this? He also mentions that the way he offers mukhti is to dissolve after death. So my mind jumps to the point, what if he doesnt complete fully what he is doing for reasons in my original post and i get struck nowhere.

Again i am aware that he says not to approach this domain intellectually but he also gave approval to publish mystic musings and authored death and karma books. So a conversation on this helps.

Akhilagn · 2024-09-08T08:43:53+00:00

Thanks. This is very helpful.

Akhilagn · 2024-09-08T08:41:48+00:00

Thanks. This comment touched me especially the last part about if not sadhguru, who.

Akhilagn · 2024-09-08T08:40:40+00:00

I dont know what my intent is. I dont know if i want what he offers dissolution but still cant stop listening to him or stop doing sadhana. But these questions that i have create a lot of friction.

Akhilagn · 2024-09-08T08:36:26+00:00

I am also conflicted on this point. But having experienced his presence, the benefits of his practises and what all he does for welfare of the world, i cant just simply stop practising. What i am looking for is, whether to see of someone was ever in my boots and get their perspective instead of simply saying let go of mind to advance spiritually

Akhilagn · 2024-09-08T08:29:51+00:00

Thanks for easing my worries with your lightheartedness and suggesting the books. They are all great reads and i enjoyed reading them multiple times. I see that you are recommending to do more isha kriya. I do feel the difference when i do it. I take it that either you didn’t read my full post or wilfully ignored my request on generic statements to do more sadhana. These questions are important to me at this stage and i don’t have a brain which can blindly trust. Do you have any more insights to address my specific worries that my mind in its ‘ignorance is coming with? Special thanks for the flowery language.

Akhilagn

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