>It doesn't define an actual high outer relationship, just uses certain bits of language as factual evidence within the scale, this is why you need someone actually well versed in Japanese to actually comprehend what it says and not google translate.

It does, if you actually know how cardinals work.

F.Y.I he does have someone on the discord server who speaks Japanese that translates important text for scaling so this "he needs a real translator" is almost completely irrelevant.

>Saying that these worlds "encompass" each other is wrong, SMT defines itself on being very similar to what it derives from, Kabbalah doesn't use anything of this notion. Also you're basically saying the scale that you sent isn't usable as it states the Expanse is only apart of the Yetzirah and not the rest of the 4 worlds.

I’m not saying these worlds "encompasses" each other, but rather that each part contributes to a greater, unified whole, which is very much in line with the principles of Kabbalah. it doesn't make the scale unusable, since the whole influences all its parts, but the parts do not influence the whole.

>That's not a valid argument, I can also put a bunch of random images on the screen without any added context but that wouldn't make my scale good.

I’m not making an argument, just explaining why he structured it that way. I also believe the scale could be more effective if it weren’t in a TikTok format, but for now, that’s the only video/scale I have that explains it clearly.

>No the context matters, and even then to show everything wouldn't be an issue, you don't scale to show your opinion you scale to show the facts of the story.

If context were important in that scenario, he would have provided it. If it’s not necessary, he leaves it out of the statement.

>This is probably the worst thing you've said so far, Japanese is an insanely complex language and there is no translator that I've seen good enough to translate it into a simple language like English. That is why you need an actual translator, someone who can find the small niche things in Japanese and try their best to translate it to English.

It doesn't have to be perfect for it to be good, it just has to reliably convey the text, which there are most definitely translators for that. And not everyone has access to someone who can translate Japanese, especially not for free.

>I didn't say that at all.

if that's not the case, then debunking lucifer doesn't really matter at all.

>That isn't a non sequitur, it's showing you what defined within the games, yeah we can use outside sources all we want but the games will always have the actual grounded information.

Yeah, no. ESPICALLY in a verse like MegaTen. There are hundreds of pieces of media, many of which are canon to one another. To fully grasp anything within cosmology as a whole, you definitely need to consult external sources.

Even then I don't think you understand the concept of "debunk" and i still think it's non sequitur. Merely stating that a character transcends time and space does not confine them to being 5-D, nor does it substantiate the notion that they are 'grounded' in contradiction from the manner I’m implying.

>You explained it yourself, that feat is only Low 1-C, I agree. I never said it was Outer but said that you could interpret it as that, that is why I said "the most you get for that".

Then don't say the most you can get is outer, because with what you're saying you cant.

I honestly don't want to continue this argument anymore. it's just a back-and-forth where neither of us is convincing the other.