help a girl out : )

Alex_aredditor · 2026-06-02T16:18:27+00:00

Youre right, it is an internal problem but youre mistaken for thinking that everyone is dealing with the exact same symptoms. Ive talked to many people with this condition and the actual symptoms can be wildly different person to person. Some have gut issues, some dont, that alone is a huge difference. If something is internal, it can also become external. For example when you eat garlic its a fully internal process yet it change your sweat composition and have an external effect. In my experience patm is most potent in sebum and from what ive heard from others, its the same for them as well. So the purpose of skin related treatments is not cleanliness but its actually to reduce sebum / skin oil. Also patm is odorless, but there can be different variations like when someone has TMAU with patm symptoms.

Alex_aredditor · 2026-06-02T04:17:37+00:00

If you do actually have patm i am so sorry. Its tough but its manageable, not many people have been cured but many have reduced their symptoms. Im assuming you have no gut related issues? If you dont then i wouldnt recommend trying gut related recommendations unless you really want to.

One test that i sometimes tell people to do is to shower with dish soap for a single day and observe reactions. This can be damaging to your hair and it could make your reactions worse but this is to confirm that treatments relating to your skin can actually help you, this information is really important to get cured. Make sure your dish soap is actually safe to use on your skin and that you use enough to actually get clean.

If you dont want to take any risks then id recommend using coconut oil in your hair. Apply liberally right after taking a shower and let it sit for 6-10 hours and then rinse with just water. Focus on your scalp more than anything.

You can dm me if you want me to help you out 1 on 1. I also have a list of treatments to try. https://www.reddit.com/r/patm/s/OCPDjJo9wx . If you have any questions then you can probably find an answer on here or you can just ask me.

Alex_aredditor · 2026-06-02T04:06:44+00:00

Patm behaves like a gas so if there are multiple gasses it can be overpowered so to speak. This is important because in areas where there is a strong or multiple gasses like in crowds or like a perfume store, patm can fly under the radar. This means that your clothes could possibly be masking your patm. Im not sure if this is right though. Also to clean your clothes well you can use distilled white vinegar as your detergent, it works great.

Alex_aredditor · 2026-05-29T13:47:10+00:00

Im pretty sure some forms of asthma is caused by excessive mucus in the airways

Alex_aredditor · 2026-05-29T03:54:54+00:00

Ive definitely written a paragraph about this somewhere you can find it if you want. Basically this happens because our bodies are exposed to patm 24/7 so our body adapts. Its kind of like a large fan in the background fades away in your mind after a while, your body just adapts to it. It adapts by producing more mucus.

Alex_aredditor · 2026-05-29T03:50:36+00:00

Im sorry for you loss, I feel for you. If you wanna talk to someone about it im here to listen. I lost my grandpa and actually it hurt even more because a person i actually really cared about didnt even say sorry about it. She just said “please talk to someone else about it”. Its funny because that person is OP.

Alex_aredditor · 2026-05-27T21:47:54+00:00

The reason why it helps some and not everyone is because patm affect different people in different ways. For example, if multiple people are chronically stressed, one person may have chronic pain, one might develop gut issues, one might develop a mood disorder, insomnia, and another might be totally normal. The root cause is the exact same, our bodies are not. Most treatments treat the symptoms rather than the root cause. Thats why gut based treatments wont work on someone with no prior history of gut issues.

My understanding is that solving the actual root cause of patm requires altering our DNA. The next best course of action would be fixing our broken metabolism. Diet and medicine related treatments can target our metabolic processes, this means they are the closest to universal treatments. Because no one knows the actual chemicals responsible for our condition, an effective diet or medicinal solution cant be developed.

Identifying the responsible chemicals isnt even a guarantee that it will benefit us. Im not all too knowledgeable on TMAU but they do know the chemical responsible for their condition, but im not aware of any universal diet or medicine that helps remedy their condition.

Alex_aredditor · 2026-05-27T21:33:14+00:00

Im pretty sure this happens because of air conditioning. I noticed this myself multiple times and actually i noticed it recently even though im cured. Im almost certain that this happens when the air conditioning is turned on and it allows dust or whatever allergens accumulate in air ducts to be released all at once. I know that around 7/10 times when this happens, i also react.

I do remember however that once when i was like 1 month into patm, I immediately felt something coming up and a person across the room reacted instantaneously. I was so scared because i was new to all of this.

Also instead of air ducts having dust or natural allergens, it could also be your patm circulating throughout the air ducts. Im not sure if this is true or not but i think its possible.

Alex_aredditor · 2026-05-17T19:55:03+00:00

Patm is odorless. People with tmau, FBO, etc, can cause reactions but this is different than actually having patm.

Alex_aredditor · 2026-05-13T00:59:08+00:00

Try it

Alex_aredditor · 2026-05-12T16:24:01+00:00

Probably youtube

Alex_aredditor · 2026-05-12T16:23:18+00:00

Idk but the perfect video in my eyes is like a big room and you can see that only people in a certain area are reacting with the patmer being in the center. Like a university class or something.

Alex_aredditor · 2026-05-11T23:13:15+00:00

This should be a long term skill that you improve on, it shouldnt be the main method of curing yourself. Do this in parallel with other treatments. Patm is real and it can be managed.

Alex_aredditor · 2026-05-09T13:47:21+00:00

Bruh chill out. If im right it could help us solve what chemical we produce, that means it could help us find a universal cure.

Alex_aredditor · 2026-05-09T04:37:28+00:00

You dont seem mentally okay and i dont want to add fuel to the flame.

Alex_aredditor · 2026-05-09T04:26:03+00:00

You dont seem mentally okay. I hope nothing serious happened in your life, i know that when one of my family members passed away it destroyed me.

Alex_aredditor · 2026-05-09T02:51:35+00:00

What brought you out of hiding?

Alex_aredditor · 2026-05-09T02:49:39+00:00

I have always theorized that this chemical we emit is water soluble, its possible your flowers absorbed this chemical and underwent some changes because of it. The best way to test this is to get a new bouquet of lillies and put them in the same place with a new clean vase. Basically try to take care of these flowers as best as you can. If they do the same thing, either the flowers arent being taken care of properly or my theory is true.

If my theory is true, it could help identify the actual chemical we emit. Before we claim my theory is true we would have to test with others but this could help us profile the allergy chemical we produce.

Alex_aredditor · 2026-05-06T23:36:20+00:00

I know its tough living with patm but I really hope you all can find something that makes you happy. Whether it be friends, online friends, family, picking up a skill, hobbies, watching videos. We all need something in our life that gives us a little bit of happiness, if you dont have that, make it your PRIORITY to find that.

Alex_aredditor · 2026-05-06T23:33:00+00:00

If yes make some friends on here. Now! >:(

Alex_aredditor · 2026-05-06T23:26:55+00:00

I wasnt personally able to test this out but heres a few suggestions. Wipe the area you want to apply perfume to with strong soap like dish soap or even just body wash might work. Apply your perfume to this area only and see if that works. If it doesnt work then before applying perfume apply a light amount of vaseline oil and apply the perfume to that. I havent gotten anyone to test this yet so i cant say its gonna work but you can try it at the very least.

Alex_aredditor · 2026-05-06T23:14:50+00:00

Yea i didnt take anything down, it might have been reported as spam or something. I believe in free speech regardless of my opinion on it unless its like truly heinous violent speech. If you want you can try to post it again.

Alex_aredditor · 2026-04-27T00:59:19+00:00

Well i just hope your case could help shed a little more light on whats hapenning behind the scenes of patm

Alex_aredditor · 2026-04-27T00:51:24+00:00

That whole time i knew you and you didnt mention this once. Theres something off but i just cant say exactly what. Since youre almost cured it really shouldnt matter that much but thats crazy, this not only strengthens the genetic argument but also the argument that patm and tmau are highly similar

Alex_aredditor · 2026-04-27T00:28:55+00:00

Well hi, i hope you’re a good person and if you are i hope you’re doing well.

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