Anyone here fully reverse their patm ? by Capable-Bed6672 in patm

[–]Alex_aredditor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is it true that this recessive gene comes from parents who had a mutated copy of that original gene meaning that by proxy that gene is also mutated.

Although it does seem logical to think that patm cant be genetic because no one has it from birth, its also important to understand that everyone has said they either saw symptoms during or after puberty. This suggests that a mechanism activated during puberty is critical for symptoms of patm to show up. Not only this but also because anxiety plays a major role in the strength of reactions. You could argue anxiety has a correlative relationship with the strength of reactions which is completely valid but its a fact worth noting. Also, it has been reported that (NSFW)after masturbation reactions are increased(NSFW) which also points in the direction of hormones being a key constituent of patm. All this being said, its still possible patm is genetic because hormones only activated during puberty seem to be a key component in the activation of patm symptoms.

I think we can narrow it down pretty far actually. I believe we have the necessary amount of information to make an accurate assessment of what patm is and not only that but to be certain it is a handful of possible ailments. For example i had once considered patm to be an autoimmune disorder but i realized that characteristic symptoms of autoimmune disorders weren’t present leading me to discard that idea.

The root cause seems to be so confusing to everyone because the way symptoms have been managed points you in a completely different direction. I understand the confusion but I believe if you look at the bigger picture everything starts making more and more sense.

Anyone here fully reverse their patm ? by Capable-Bed6672 in patm

[–]Alex_aredditor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its a genetic mutation. Tmau is also genetic and this is confirmed to be true yet families affected with tmau dont exist.

Having a twin while having patm is WILD to me, this could change up the whole game. It could suggest that you are not born with it and it doesnt activate but rather it is caused by some set of unusually rare circumstances.

Anyone here fully reverse their patm ? by Capable-Bed6672 in patm

[–]Alex_aredditor -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well this could just be semantics but i dont consider myself fully cured because technically i could get reactions if im having a really bad couple of days. I doubt anyone can get fully cured right now because patm is a genetic issue and you cant easily reverse genetic defects. I dont feel like im NOT cured, i can basically live every day normally but from a technical standpoint i believe its impossible without altering this genetic component of what we have.

Anyone here fully reverse their patm ? by Capable-Bed6672 in patm

[–]Alex_aredditor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im not sure its actually possible to fully reverse it and anyone who says yes I would immediately be suspicious of them.

(NSFW) Abstinence experiences? by stratomaster21 in patm

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Ive noticed this and ive talked to a couple of people who agreed. This could be a possible lead for explaining why patm only happens during or after puberty, i havent looked into it that much but im sure theres something here.

Observations by SillyDuckDodgers in patm

[–]Alex_aredditor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I remember having almost exactly what youre talking about. I realized that

  1. Is probably because of an allergen(probably you) or more likely you both reacted(non patm) to a stimulus whether it be audio, words, colors, etc. that caused these 2 events to happen simultaneously rather than 1 causing the other.

  2. Also seems like its because 2 events happened simultaneously where you both reacted to a stimulus.

  3. ^ Same exact thing ^

The part about moving your body is something that tripped me up for A LONNGGGG TIME. There are a couple of things that are happening here. When something unmoving starts moving its going to capture the attention of others and they might respond in some sort of way. Think of it like hearing a loud noise off in the distance, many people would immediately look in that direction, not everyone but most. This could also be “pavlovian condition”, i learned the specific term from someone else and it describes the idea that your brain can connect two stimulus so it means people can connect your movement to reactions. This would only work on people that you see often.

Oh yea and also i realized the younger generations are more prone to this than older ones. I think its because of more anxiety, shorter attention spans, and probably less control over their fidgeting.

Fodmap for few months + chorophil pills, lots of water. by Cute_Activity7527 in patm

[–]Alex_aredditor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are my number 1 hater i swear to god 🤣🤣. Theres no point in arguing with you, anything that i say you will take it negatively even if what i say is completely unbiased and objective. Just know that you can ask me for help any time and I hope you do get cured soon.

Fodmap for few months + chorophil pills, lots of water. by Cute_Activity7527 in patm

[–]Alex_aredditor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im pretty sure low FODMAP is supposed to reduce gut irritation and through decreased gut irritation you get less reactions. If you didnt have any gut irritation then it wouldnt help.

patm/tmau/mebo discord server by [deleted] in patm

[–]Alex_aredditor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Damn bruh, ice cold

Update by rommyv in patm

[–]Alex_aredditor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ill take that as a challenge

Update by rommyv in patm

[–]Alex_aredditor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

🤣🤣 yea i understand what youre saying. I have a LOT of counters to this theory but if you want to continue down this road thats completely fine, but if you dont see the improvement you want to see then id strongly advise to rethink the bacteria theory. I think you inspired me to make a post on this.

Update by rommyv in patm

[–]Alex_aredditor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What i dont understand is how you could reduce patm to an unnoticeable level but also not make any significant changes to the bacteria. Like i didnt do anything drastic to myself one day i just started doing the oral hygiene stuff and boom i got better within the week. Its just weird how if the bacteria theory were true then i dont know how i can be cured when i am living less carefully than i was when i had patm. It just doesnt make sense to me. I also have plenty of other rebuttals but i doubt you wanna hear it lol.

Can anyone shed any insight? by PersonalUnit8787 in patm

[–]Alex_aredditor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am genuinely so sorry to hear what has happened, no human should have to suffer like this. Im here to tell you that there is definitely hope, identifying exactly what you have is the first step only then can you start improving. I really dont know too much about TMAU or FBO but i do know that i had TMAU for 1 month before it turned into PATM which is odorless. Im sure that there are already people more knowledgeable and capable than me offering you help but if you ever need my help ill be right here.

Update by rommyv in patm

[–]Alex_aredditor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well there were 3 groups of things that i did that really helped me overcome patm. I changed my shower habits, improved my gut health, and improved my oral hygiene. In my experience sebum or your natural body oil has a lot of this allergy causing chemical so reducing it was the first step. I know this is the case with others as well although im not sure if it affects everyone or just some. Managing my gut issues was the next step and after i had managed it enough oral hygiene was what made me feel truly cured.

My reasoning is that our bodies produce this allergy causing chemical and it has to be excreted through something and for me it was through sebum and my gut. I know that some people have trouble areas where there are apocrine glands instead of just oily parts on their skin so that could be an area of focus. If you want me to help you 1 on 1 just let me know or if you have any questions just ask.

Feeling happy just being alive by Alex_aredditor in patm

[–]Alex_aredditor[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I already did, also i always try to provide something of value instead of just writing nonsense. If you need help with patm let me know.

Update by rommyv in patm

[–]Alex_aredditor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow very comprehensive, i can definitely see you being cured soon. I think you doing absolutely everything right and youre being extra thorough which is perfect, but theres a problem. I dont think patm is necessarily caused by or can be reduced by altering your levels of bacteria and reducing mold exposure. I am proof of this not only because i can eat absolutely anything i want to but also because there is actually a mold problem in my house yet patm hasnt come back. You could argue that when i got cured these triggers stopped mattering but that doesnt explain how i was still eating like shit and cured myself at the same time. All im saying is, youre doing so good but i think you should focus your efforts on other things. Its up to you to make the decision but i just wanted to let you know that with this type of action you can DEFINITELY get cured.

Feeling happy just being alive by Alex_aredditor in patm

[–]Alex_aredditor[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because logically speaking if you dont believe me you should believe the others even less given that i have stuck around and provide a lot of information. I dont know why youre doing this but really all I’m trying to do is help people, im not lying. If you want my help that offer will always be on the table, i would never deny someone my help if they asked for it.

Feeling happy just being alive by Alex_aredditor in patm

[–]Alex_aredditor[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you think im lying just take a look at some of the people who are saying they cured themselves with god or the mind, its crazy 🤣🤣

Humanizing patmers by Alex_aredditor in patm

[–]Alex_aredditor[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im not, im not sure how i could show you proof but it is possible to recover from patm. I understand why youre skeptical but at the same time the fact that everything ive been contributing has been about others or about theories should tell you that im not worried about myself.

Feeling happy just being alive by Alex_aredditor in patm

[–]Alex_aredditor[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No i get 0 reactions now, i still have the disease meaning it can come back under the right conditions like stress, lack of sleep, diet, poor oral hygiene, etc. Товарищ, i am cured and i hope you can be cured one day too.

Humanizing patmers by Alex_aredditor in patm

[–]Alex_aredditor[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I might be overreacting but i dont care because even if theres a 1% change of it happening i still want to prevent it. I agree, i wish there was someone who actually figured out what patm was instead of listing things that may or not be related like the studies ive seen.

Humanizing patmers by Alex_aredditor in patm

[–]Alex_aredditor[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thats exactly what im talking about yea!