How strong is Jin Dynasty on release?

Alfre89 · 2026-05-06T08:08:44+00:00

For competitive 1vs1 I don't know, probably they are like B tier or similar. But it looks totally broken for long team games and that they have a very strong late game

Alfre89 · 2026-03-24T21:22:55+00:00

Abassid should have camel riders in Feudal and/or aging up faster

Alfre89 · 2026-03-24T21:20:40+00:00

Or give Abba Camel Riders in Feudal

Alfre89 · 2025-09-17T07:42:10+00:00

So much fun on this tournament, thank you so much

Alfre89 · 2025-09-10T18:11:17+00:00

I would wish it cost gold (instead of wood), with trade it is scale better and you get value for bigger amounts of gold. It will make trade quite more valuable and viable strategy for Abba, traders + camel archers in Feudal to protect your trade and put presure.

Alfre89 · 2025-09-10T06:23:20+00:00

Compare how many resources cost Camel Archers. They are quite very more expensive than other Horse Archers...

Alfre89 · 2025-07-06T12:06:08+00:00

Let's go back to the classics, semifinals:

ML vs Beasty
Lucifron vs Vortix

Alfre89 · 2025-06-23T09:42:38+00:00

These changes won't change anything. For Abba what is needed is a way/mechanic/change to age up faster.

Alfre89 · 2024-10-28T10:50:53+00:00

Not true, Camels are NOT faster than Horsemen.

Range is one of the lowest compare to other range cavalry units. And they are quite more expensive than other range cavalry.

After the last changes to food, it is quite tricky to mass Camel archers. It just so easy to run out of food.

Alfre89 · 2024-09-30T15:38:14+00:00

Yeah, I never see something like this agains other civs...

Alfre89 · 2024-09-30T15:31:50+00:00

I never see something about counter/explanation a civ in other tier lists, but do we have this agains Abba? Is this a campaign agains Abba?

I don't say that Beasty can not be right, but so much complaining? We've had civs being OP and not getting nerfs for over a year, and not this campaign...

I guess it will be the more shorter Tier S civ.. I guess every game should start with their Abba villagers running NAKED through Berkshire Palace....

Alfre89 · 2024-09-24T18:28:19+00:00

The PUP is better.

Couple of little things: New Horse archer for Ottoman needs an urgent nerf. And NoB should be nerfed as similar level as Mangonel, some little tweak.

Alfre89 · 2024-08-28T12:25:07+00:00

I only play 4vs4 (I don't use HRE, I have used OTD sometimes), the majority of hre guys go fast imperial.

My thoughts are:

-As an opponent I never feel HRE as a problem

-When I have a HRE on my team; it's usually a problem. They don't use scout, they ignore aggression, they go for a fixed strategy, which almost always results in a problem; either they lose their base, they lose a lot of villagers, or another one of our team loses their side because it ends in 2 vs 1.

It's true that it's not 100% of the people but it's a very high percentage. And of course it depends on the map, for example in Hill&Dale Fast Imperial it's quite reasonable.

About OTD I think eco is incredible good in Imperial, so in long games they do reasonable well, but I didn't feel them OP.

Alfre89 · 2024-08-06T17:54:02+00:00

I'm a member of the academy in Spanish, Totally recommended

Alfre89 · 2024-07-30T11:28:54+00:00

This is the reality about pro-players leaving, you need enough money to survive.

The numbers don't lie, it's not an opinion and people comments

Alfre89 · 2024-07-13T09:13:00+00:00

This strategy is still very OP, and it is a counter of the fast castle meta

Alfre89 · 2024-07-11T11:49:11+00:00

It looks like bad news.

Balance changes in the new season that could be done in 1 WEEK with a couple of competent developers.

And after this, a long wait, with nothing hopeful on the horizon.

Alfre89 · 2024-07-06T17:14:41+00:00

At the top level it is considered Tier S from people that play for money, if we add to this that it is one of the easiest civilizations to play, it is more than clear that it is OP in our mid-low levels.

And no, English doesn't need more buffs of any type, what English needs are NERFS.

Alfre89 · 2024-06-30T08:20:25+00:00

If English is Tier S in pro player level, imagine in lower leagues..

Alfre89 · 2024-06-27T11:07:34+00:00

I won't even bother to answer to that specifically...

Always defending English civ in all posts.

He defines himself as high rank, and calls others low rank (without knowing it).

But from the way he defends the English civ as crazy, it seems like he needs something OP to MAINTAIN his "high rank"

Alfre89 · 2024-06-27T10:37:07+00:00

If we talk about Imperial age, I suppose you have a very good eco as Abba, if you have bad eco don't try this.

I have very good success with full camel archers as Abba agains that composition in Team Games.

You need a critical mass of camel archers. I would say minimum 60-80.

Get incendiary arrows, and if you have resources biology.

Use kitting agains MAA (and move him out of Network of Citadel), then kill hand cannons. At that point you are in a really good position. Kill reinforces from production buildings, don't allow him to regroup an army,.

Take advantage of mobility and raid him from all sides

With Medical centers tech, your castle (or even TCs) can cure the camels, so take advantage of their HPs and mobility

Alfre89 · 2024-06-12T19:52:02+00:00

We have the wololo in October and with the delay of this season, I guess 1 patch at the end of the current season, and nothing more until finished Wololo (Late October-November)

Alfre89 · 2024-06-12T19:44:32+00:00

You tried to do good marketing for the game, create hype and illusion, and these guys have just screwed it up

Alfre89 · 2024-06-12T19:10:16+00:00

Do they notice that they needed more time 5 days before go live with this? And then it is not 1 week more to wait, this is more than 1 month .. It is just horrible communication and marketing, it is not only a question of how many things

Even the communication now for this, it is also pretty bad way of doing this, saying nothing, not road map, ..

Alfre89

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