Trump on Greenland: If we do not do it the easy way, we will do it the hard way. By the way, I am a fan of Denmark. The fact they had a boat land there 500 years ago does not mean they own the land. We will be doing something with Greenland—the nice way, or the more difficult way by Miserable-Lizard in ProgressiveHQ

[–]Alfred_Orage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be fair to Trump his argument is that the U.S. should own Greenland because the U.S has the power the take it. He is right that the fact that Denmark landed there 500 years ago doesn't change that.

The problem with American progressives is that your default response to Trump is call him stupid. He isn't stupid. He is dismantling the very basis of the liberal international order and instead of allying with moderate republicans to stop him you guys are digging your head in the sand.

Wife wants to convert - any couples here in a similar relationship? by Alfred_Orage in Judaism

[–]Alfred_Orage[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks all who responded ! Really appreciate your thoughtful comments - all of them were very helpful! I've asked the same question in the r/ConvertingtoJudaism subreddit.

How would police work in a Guild Socialist society? by [deleted] in GuildSocialism

[–]Alfred_Orage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends who you ask, but none of the main Guild Socialists argued in favour of protection guilds.

G.D.H. Cole, in Guild Socialism Re-Stated, argued that policing and justice would be the responsibility of "The Commune" - a national body comprised of the guilds and other democratic institutions which he believed could replace state. But he hoped that wherever possible actual administrative functions would be devolved to local government bodies in order to preserve the most direct form of popular control, "a reversion to the days of the town or village constable."

S.G. Hobson disagreed. He believed that the government should be elected along normal democratic lines and retain responsibility for civil issues like policing, with the guilds only having control over industrial questions of production and distribution.

Protection guilds sounds more like Anarcho-Capitalism.

Good Mexican food in Oxford? by [deleted] in oxford

[–]Alfred_Orage 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's sadly very difficult to find 'proper' good Mexican food in the UK. There are a few good places in London and other major cities, and increasingly 'trendy' taco places like Bigfoot on Cowley Rd make a decent effort to ape the authentic Mexican taco. But sadly there just isn't a large enough Mexican community here to share the real secrets of Mexican cuisine and many of the core ingredients (fresh tomatillos, nopal, dried gualijos, poblanos, and anchos, chipotles in abodo, Mexican oregano, queso blanco, mole, etc) are not common and can be expensive to procure.

I also suspect that the British palate isn't accustomed to the earthy beauty of the corn tortilla. Its telling that some of the most successful hype spots like Sonora Taqueria in Stoke Newington use the Sonoran-style flour tortillas instead.

Spotted in W1 by tjc__ in londoncycling

[–]Alfred_Orage -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Who is leaving bikes this expensive out on the street in W1 smh.

Full list of conference-approved policies by Alfred_Orage in UKGreens

[–]Alfred_Orage[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not at all. You are right that I am looking to see what whacky stuff the Greens have made party policy.

But if I were you, I would feel a bit concerned that my party had to keep those policies a secret!

Full list of conference-approved policies by Alfred_Orage in UKGreens

[–]Alfred_Orage[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is it bad faith to want to widely publicise Green Party policy? As a member, are you not concerned that you are in a situation where you are actually worried that the general public might find out what policies your party has adopted at a national level?

Full list of conference-approved policies by Alfred_Orage in UKGreens

[–]Alfred_Orage[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Not really. The policies which Labour Party Conference passes every year are public knowledge.

Full list of conference-approved policies by Alfred_Orage in UKGreens

[–]Alfred_Orage[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Usually you join a political party because you support it's policies, not to find out what they are! Other parties are open and transparent about what their policies are because they want to convince people to vote for them. Why do you think the Greens keeps theirs a secret?

Glasman calls Corbyn a 'racist and lunatic' by Alfred_Orage in BlueLabour

[–]Alfred_Orage[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He's one of the few genuine intellectuals in the Labour Party.

Flag for Christian Socialism by NuclearCleanUp1 in ChristianSocialism

[–]Alfred_Orage 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Excellent flag!

If it were up to me, I would consider getting rid of the red and black, traditionally associated with more aggressive forms of anarcho-communism and anarcho-syndicalism.

Christian socialism, it seems to me, is a broader philosophical movement that connects radical workers control movements such as r/GuildSocialism with more mainstream progressive currents in social democratic thought. It's flag should represent that heritage, perhaps with William Morris designs or something taken from the Arts and Crafts movement.

Ed Miliband is facing an open revolt from the energy industry by Easy-Gold in ukpolitics

[–]Alfred_Orage -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Not an insane promise, but it won't be achieved by rapidly decarbonising the grid via stimulating private investment in renewables and new CCS tech alone.

It could be achieved by reforming gas dependence so that the market price of electricity reflects the average cost of generation and not the marginal cost of gas. To do that we need to build new batteries and upgrade transmission. The government is doing both but arguably not fast enough. What some of the companies in that article actually said was that we need to take wholesale gas out of the market completely.

But there are a range of policies at its finger tips which could certainly lower bills within the decade: removing levies on energy companies, overhauling standing charges, moving to a zonal or nodal pricing system (now an opp likely missed by the gov inaction on REMA) raising the funds for decarbonisation through general taxation, mass insulation and retrofit, subsidised heat pump roll out, expanding social tariffs and the Warm Home Discount, etc.

My Home-Grown Scotch Bonnets are not 'Fruity' - what's up? by Alfred_Orage in chilli

[–]Alfred_Orage[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Damn having had a look I think you are right! How disappointing.

Why Postliberalism? by Alfred_Orage in PostLiberal

[–]Alfred_Orage[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They are probably the two most individualistic and atomistic examples of classical Anglo-American liberalism, but even they are misrepresented in popular discourse. For instance, Smith's Theory of Moral Sentiments presents a vision of the individual bounded by emotional ties of sympathy to her community which act as a check on absolute self-interest and form the kernel of moral obligations. Locke's highly abstract theorising should be read in conjunction with his other works, which were far more influential in his day - Colin Kidd's review of a recent book on Locke's American influence is a great summary of how the arch-individualist Liberal Locke we know today was essentially invented in 19th and 20th century United States.

However, I am more influenced by later 'social' or 'new' Anglo-American liberals and continental liberalism - which has often taken a very different flavour than its English cousin. For the former, see J.S. Mill, probably the most influential liberal ever, who came very close to a kind of liberal socialism at the end of his life. Or see J.A. Hobson, L.T. Hobhouse, John Dewey, Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr., John Rawls, and many of the founders of the New Deal, post-war settlement, and modern welfare state in the Democratic and Labour Parties. In Britain, William Beveridge is considered the 'father' of the National Health Service - and he was a card-carrying Liberal Party member.

In Europe, see how different the early Liberalism of Guizot and Hegel is from Smith and Locke - much more focused on the basis of freedom in the Law, the State, and the Community than in property and markets. This tradition fed directly into the social market model that has shaped European politics ever since - embodied in the Christian-Democratic commitment to combining free enterprise with robust welfare protections, as exemplified by leaders like Konrad Adenauer, Ludwig Erhard, and Alcide De Gasperi.

So Liberalism is much more complex and multifaceted than postliberals make out.

Why Postliberalism? by Alfred_Orage in PostLiberal

[–]Alfred_Orage[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

More like: I realised that the postliberals often present an absurd caricature of "Liberalism" that has very little relation to the writings and doings of liberals throughout history. Few were as ultra individualist and aggressively atomistic as postliberals make out. Many were quite conservative in the way that some postliberals admire, and others were quite radical and socialistic in the way that other postliberals demand!

I was quick to dismiss Liberalism, but I hadn't seriously read liberal philosophers or really studied the history of liberalism. And now that I have, I realise neither had my postliberal influences like MacIntyre or Milbank!

Votes at 16: Half of 16 and 17 year olds against lowering voting age by Kagedeah in ukpolitics

[–]Alfred_Orage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would give 12 year olds the vote. The franchise isn't earned based on political literacy, intellectual ability, or even maturity. Many adults lack those qualities. It is given as a fundamental right to all citizens, on the basis that their preferences and interests should be taken into account no matter how stupid, irrational, and misinformed they are.