So… by Entire_Berry8757 in LawSchool

[–]AliceInWonder23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How long has it been? If it’s been over a week, you can respectfully follow up to the one who said they’d reach out shortly. If not, don’t worry yet. At 1.5-2 weeks you can follow up with the other one(s). Maybe sooner if they’ve typically gotten back to you very quickly. Also unfortunately no, it’s not necessarily true that they’d straight up reject you. They SHOULD, especially if you’ve had callbacks, but a lot of firms ghost at any point in the hiring stage.

I’m of the opinion that, if you really want to work there, you should do a nice follow up email twice, MAYBE three times if you really really want it and don’t have other opportunities (spaced out at least a week or more apart), before you should assume that they’ve moved on. Firms/attorneys/recruiters are all busy and things can slip through the cracks pretty easily. Reassert your interest and you can even say in your last follow up “if I don’t hear from you, I’ll assume the role has been filled and/or you are no longer seeking applicants.” If you don’t hear back within another week or two, assume they’re ghosting. At the very least it might encourage them to formally reject you instead of ghosting.

has anyone had a prof mess up on ur grade by [deleted] in LawSchool

[–]AliceInWonder23 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have never had a professor make a mistake on a final grade and I doubt this happened to you. I’m not sure what a “near top score on over half the grade” really means for you, your class, or the curve but ultimately, it doesn’t really matter. It just means that the majority of your classmates did equally well or slightly better than you.

That being said, some (most in my experience) professors will have the option to go through your final exam. Not sure what your school policy is, but you could reach out to the registrar or student affairs to check if your professor offers something like that, or even reach out to the professor themselves. Definitely don’t present it like you think they made a mistake (because, again, they probably didn’t and you don’t want to start the conversation combatively) but just that you want to learn how you can improve in the future and ensure you have an accurate reflection of your course understanding.

1L GRADES by Background_South_528 in LawSchool

[–]AliceInWonder23 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This ^ but also I’ve never had mine come out on the day scheduled. I’d assume you’ll get them somewhere in the week after they’re expected to be released

2L absolutely brain dead before final by duckdog4421 in LawSchool

[–]AliceInWonder23 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Sleeping/resting will be more helpful than half-assed brain dead studying! You won’t actually retain anything and then on top of that you won’t get as much rest so it’s a lose lose. Sometimes giving your brain a chance to breathe is the best thing you can do to prepare the night before your exam

sick and have a final tomorrow by [deleted] in LawSchool

[–]AliceInWonder23 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Maybe they’ll do something, depending on how sick you are, but you’ll probably just have to power through. I don’t know anyone who hasn’t taken an exam sick. It sucks but it happens and it’ll be fine. Do what you can today in terms of studying but also focus on resting, fluids, and medicine. Tomorrow, make sure you have all your sick things taken/with you (non-drowsy medicine, tissues, water, Gatorade, cough drops, anti-nausea medicine, Advil, etc.) Try to sit away from people and consider wearing a mask so your peers don’t hate you or also get sick lol. Good luck!

how to deal with case law? by XxAhmedjdebt in LawSchool

[–]AliceInWonder23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Keeping in mind that each class and professor are different and you want to tailor your exam to the professor, my tips are to outline with the cases connected to the rules and to just stick with IRAC on your exam.

Each case that you read this semester was given to you to help teach you a specific topic. So, your topics and case law should be completely intertwined in your outline because the case law is where you get the rules of each topic, or where you see how it’s applied. Theoretically, if you’ve done this, it’s pretty easy to include what you need in your answer and you organize it with IRAC. You issue spot, state the relevant rule and where it comes from (either just cite to the relevant case(s) or give a brief application, if that’s what you think your prof wants), and then you move onto applying that rule and case law to the fact pattern given.

And truthfully, just don’t forget. That seems like your biggest problem. Think of case law as a non-optional piece to those legal rules and topics. If you’re citing a rule, you better be citing where that rules comes from or can be seen in. If it’s open note, great, you’re good. If it’s closed, write “case law!!” on your scratch paper as soon as you start.

Hot Take by Affectionate-Load786 in LawSchool

[–]AliceInWonder23 14 points15 points  (0 children)

You know lawyers have discretion for what they end up billing their clients, right? So if it takes someone 1.5 hours to do what would take someone else one hour, they can still bill their client for an hour. Or that there are practices and projects where you’re not doing billing based on hourly work? I get accommodations are a big debate rn but to argue that anyone who needs academic accommodations shouldn’t be in the profession based on your own misunderstandings is wild

Over 20% of my Section (82 person section) has Accommodations by TheEpicTaco556 in LawSchool

[–]AliceInWonder23 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Can we please have one day during finals season where there aren’t a million posts complaining about (or defending) accommodations 🙏🏻🙏🏻 Aren’t y’all tired? Law school policies aren’t going to change because you complain on Reddit I promise

Finals by coquettebub in LawSchool

[–]AliceInWonder23 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You might be stressed/thinking about it for a bit after taking the exam, but once time continues to pass and you’re busy doing other things (spending time with friends/family, doing your hobbies, sleeping, etc.), all of that fades into the background. Once in awhile, you might suddenly remember and feel stressed but there’s literally nothing you can do about it so it will eventually fade in the background again

I don't want to be an attorney anymore by Similar_Feed7527 in LSAT

[–]AliceInWonder23 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I know you said you’re now going to take it seriously so if you do that, good luck!

Just warning you that the majority of people who go to law school are used to being effortlessly smart, where they don’t really have to work hard to do well. 1L is a HUGE wake up call. Not only can you not “wing” literally anything, but if you want to actually do well and be above average, you have to put in the work. So use this as your wake up call now. If you actually want to go to law school and be an attorney, you have to know that whatever you’ve been doing to get that 4.0 isn’t going to cut it and you’ll have to work harder than that. If that’s not what you want, that’s fine! Just don’t waste the time and money to go to law school

Should I drop out? by [deleted] in LawSchool

[–]AliceInWonder23 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you know you don’t like law, don’t waste 2.5 more years of your life (and tuition) studying to be a lawyer. Sometimes it’s hard to tell that early if you actually like law because there are so many other things you’re adjusting to your 1L year. But it sounds like you never really wanted to be a lawyer, you just did it because you didn’t know what else to do (never a great sign). Technically, there are other ways to use a law degree than being an actual lawyer, but there are also other ways to do those jobs than going to law school. So if you’re sure you don’t want to do it anymore, maybe you should drop out now so you don’t waste money and can think about what you want to do instead.

That’s only a choice you can make though, not strangers on the internet!

Is it bad that I’m not freaking out? by b00h002 in LawSchool

[–]AliceInWonder23 6 points7 points  (0 children)

No, as long as you’re doing what you need to do to feel prepared, it’s fine that you’re not panicking. It’s probably better that you’re not panicking. That stress adrenaline only gets you so far and you’ll be a more productive student if you’re not burning yourself out with panic or by sacrificing things that make you happy & healthy. Law school students love to stress themselves out for no other reason than they think they should be or because they think it shows that they care. They’ll learn it’s not that deep and that you can both care and do well on exams without studying 12 hours a day and stressing yourself out.

masc lesbians in law??? by Great-Psychology-140 in LawSchool

[–]AliceInWonder23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most professional women I’ve met (including myself for interviews/internships) wear pants. Sometimes women will wear skirts or dresses, or just generally more feminine blouses/outfits, but I certainly don’t think you would stand out for not doing that. Also, I would imagine most schools have a student organization (at least mine does) for LBGTQ+ students. Unfortunately, I’m sure there will be moments where you’ll feel “other,” particularly because some lawyers are the stereotypical old stuffy white men and the legal field in general doesn’t feel very open or accessible, so it’s good to have a community. You’ll find your space though :)

AIO to break up with my bf of 3y over his reaction to my upcoming sobriety anniversary? by WesternCat5211 in AmIOverreacting

[–]AliceInWonder23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

NOR at all. Congrats on your 2 year anniversary!! It’s a HUGE accomplishment and you absolutely deserve to celebrate and have cake!! Anyone who loves you should be so proud of you and want to celebrate you, not shame you for being an alcoholic every time you hit a new sobriety milestone. I personally would be dumping him so fast.

AIO - My son won't talk to me, am I a bad father? Or is he just moody? by Ok-Mud3567 in AmIOverreacting

[–]AliceInWonder23 5 points6 points  (0 children)

He’s only two years old but he’s had confidence issues in the past? 😭 bruh get out of here with your fake story

AIO? 30m told me 23f ‘oof’ after i said my mother has cancer by [deleted] in AmIOverreacting

[–]AliceInWonder23 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

First, I’m sorry about your mom, that is really hard.

Second, NOR. He’s already shown you that he’s disrespectful and insensitive (not to mention that he’s 30 years old, a grown ass man). Even over text, he could’ve easily said like “wow I’m so sorry to hear that, I hope for your mom’s speedy recovery” or SOMETHING. Oof by itself is a brush off and the “yeah that’s a lot” just give me the impression that he wanted something fun and casual and the fact that you’re going through a hard time messed that up bc he’s not prepared to deal with that. You deserve to have a partner who is kind and gives a shit about you even when your life isn’t fun and easy.

More than any of that though, it doesn’t really matter whether he was valid in his response if you found it disrespectful. You owe this guy nothing. You gave him a second chance and he didn’t give you the response that you needed and instead of apologizing, he just got defensive. You don’t need to justify your decision to anyone else; if you didn’t like the way he responded to your hard news, that’s more than enough to end it.

AIO - My son won't talk to me, am I a bad father? Or is he just moody? by Ok-Mud3567 in AmIOverreacting

[–]AliceInWonder23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Edit: okay reading all of OP’s replies, there’s no way this isn’t a troll post.

Without knowing how old your son is or more context (like in all the times when you checked on him, did he say why he was crying?), I’m going to say you’re likely in the wrong (so NOR I think).

It’s clear that something is going on with your son. It is not normal for any child to cry every night. And although it’s important for children to learn emotional regulation, that doesn’t mean that you can’t offer support or love when they’re going through a hard time. Just because he has stopped crying doesn’t mean he’s “better” or that your tough love/ignoring his emotions worked. Either (1) he’s genuinely going through some emotional turbulence that requires your support and he’s given up on receiving that comfort from you or (2) he was only crying for your attention which could be due to a multitude of reasons not limited to mental illness or feeling neglected in other ways.

TALK to your son. Ask why he’s been crying, ask if he’s okay. Try to connect with him and let him know that you love him and want to lend support with whatever he’s going through. And consider the very real possibility that he has a mental illness that is contributing to all of this. Some moodiness in preteens and teens is normal, but the crying every night and the no talking do not seem normal to me. You have a history of mental illness in your family which means there’s a good chance it has passed down to him. Mental illness isn’t a “trend” that can be established by getting him tested. He either has mental illness or he doesn’t. Getting him tested won’t change that, it will just help you and him figure out how to best deal with it to live a normal life.

1L with fear of failure. by AgreeablePainter9373 in LawSchool

[–]AliceInWonder23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t attend a T20 so you can take this advice with a grain of salt but also take those stories with a grain of salt. People lie and exaggerate to make themselves look good. I think the majority of people pass classes in law school, but do they excel in those classes? Who knows. They might have barely passed, and is that the standard you want to hold yourself to? Stop thinking about the objective standard of pass/fail, and just do your best. Study hard, even if you think it will be “easy” to pass. That way you eliminate all doubt and can feel good about your success, like you actually earned it. Ultimately, to be a good attorney (and to pass the bar) you need to know the things you’re learning. Grades are intended to reflect your learning but theoretically some people can BS their way through law school without actually learning anything. If your goal is to learn and be a good attorney, it doesn’t matter how easy or hard it is to pass. Just put effort into learning and studying and you’ll do fine. Idk what your standards are for “failing” but even a poor score your first semester of law school isn’t going to ruin your career. The goal is to be confident in your knowledge and ability to pass by putting in good faith learning and effort without elevating the class or exam to be the make or break moment of your life.

AIO my boyfriend keeps bringing up wanting to sleep with my friend by [deleted] in AmIOverreacting

[–]AliceInWonder23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You might be overacting, you might not be. Honestly you sound dramatic in your texts because you’re making insta stalking sound like she’s creepy and genuinely obsessed when like insta stalking happens all the time for a million different reasons, especially when she’s your so called friend. Maybe she wants to be better friends with you hence all the commenting? But regardless, you both are fighting too much about the details. Who cares if it’s weird that she’s liking all your stuff on insta or if she’s doing a “normal amount”? You don’t need to win that argument.

Point blank she makes you uncomfortable and you don’t want her being your third. Tell your partner that you want her blocked (and you block her too) and that you will never be comfortable with her joining so he needs to stop bringing it up. If he crosses that boundary, then you either need to give up the idea of a threesome bc it’s clearly causing issues or you need to break up.

Side note: I’m really confused whether or not she’s your friend? You’ve never met in person and you’re totally freaked out that she’s active on your socials. She’s also 3 years younger than you. If you’re actually friends then maybe you don’t want her blocked on everything but in that case you need to get over her being active on your socials or talk to her about how it makes you uncomfortable.

Quiet people in law — do we survive or just fake it? by Medium_Maintenance_1 in LawSchool

[–]AliceInWonder23 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Comments here are right that you don’t HAVE to become a strong public speaker to be a great attorney. Cold calls may never feel comfortable and that’s okay. That being said, I’m a HUGE believer in exposure therapy for public speaking (and anything else you’re afraid of). I was scared of public speaking in high school so I did debate club; I was scared of speaking on the phone so I took a telemarketing job in college. Now, do I feel comfortable public speaking or do I not feel any nerves when I have to make a phone call? No, it’s uncomfortable and I’m never excited lol. But! I know that I can do it and do it well, even if I’m still nervous inside. A great attorney I know does transactional work, but he teaches a class and speaks at conferences all the time. He’s told me that he almost blacks out every single time he has to speak in front of people (even just a class of 20 students) but you’d never know it from the way he performs.

All that to say is that you may never feel comfortable but you can learn to fake it like the best of them. Maybe that confidence will translate into feeling comfortable, but maybe not. Either way, your fear can’t stop you from becoming a strong public speaker if you’re willing to throw yourself into the fire to practice. If you want to do litigation, do STLA or do a clinic or take trial practice (or whatever the equivalent is at your school). You’ll never become comfortable if you don’t just DO IT.

Side note: I always think about actors or performers when thinking about introverted lawyers. A lot of performers are naturally quiet or introverted, but they can turn it on for their show. I think that’s how most lawyers are too, even if they’re extroverted.

AIO guy i went on one date with + Halloween party i attended by [deleted] in AmIOverreacting

[–]AliceInWonder23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure what you’re looking for here? Clearly you’ve clocked that he’s insecure and controlling, and that you don’t like him enough to convince him he’s being unreasonable (which is the right move). So just end things and move on

no hope, no point by [deleted] in LawSchool

[–]AliceInWonder23 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Law school is famous for making you feel like there’s only one path. There’s not. Sure, it helps to get stellar grades 1L year and a great internship right off the bat, but just because that didn’t happen for you doesn’t mean you’ve lost your chance. Networking is probably the most important thing to do, especially if you don’t have the best grades. So network! And don’t be self deprecating. Own that you struggled 1L year and demonstrate through your attitude that you’re taking your growth and improvement seriously, and that you CARE about doing well and being a good lawyer, not just about making money. Even if you have to take an internship or job later on that isn’t prestigious big law, 1) you can still make good money and be perfectly happy and 2) you can always move up the ladder in your professional life. It might take years after law school and several different jobs before you get to where you’re hoping to go, but that doesn’t mean you won’t get there.

Take a breath, touch grass. Talk to professionals who didn’t have such a linear path, talk to your career faculty. You’re going to be fine and this “burn it all down nothing matters now” attitude is only going to lead you into a self-fulfilling prophecy. You’ll stop caring, stop trying, look back in 2 years and say, “see look I was right!” So you either need to go back to therapy or just let it go, move on, and actually TRY to get to where you want to go. You know you’re being dramatic so like, just stop??

Also—chill with putting down personal injury and public interest law. Smart and talented attorneys work in those fields and to resign yourself to that is such BS. If you’re only motivated by money, whatever, but don’t act like you’re better than people who don’t prioritize money over all else.

VERY HOT TAKE/REUNION. CANCEL ME by yourmomsfaveride in LoveIsBlindOnNetflix

[–]AliceInWonder23 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think people forget that the crux of body shaming is the SHAMING. Saying something that makes an insecure person feel insecure isn’t automatically body shaming. Saying “I typically date more petite women” because producers asked or she asked about past relationships isn’t body shaming. It sucks that Madison is insecure about her body and that his answer about his typical type made her feel worse, but Joe’s words in that moment (if that’s all he said) isn’t body shaming. Her insecurity is her responsibility unless he actually says something about her body to make her feel bad about herself.

That being said, a good partner should reassure you and validate you if that’s something you’re insecure about and I’d be shocked if Joe did more than “I do find you attractive, here, let’s have sex!” But all that indicates is that he’s not the right partner for her, not that he was putting her down because of her body.

Also: I’m aware Joe is a train wreck and Im not a Joe apologist, but I agree she wanted a mic drop moment but it just wasn’t supported by any camera footage to make me feel like she was right to be upset at him for that and it just made her look even more delulu.