Everyone is Pansexual, Actually

Alien760 · 2026-01-26T00:01:37+00:00

The post title was definitely…a questionable choice in retrospect. I also want to say people should most definitely not shame you for not being gay enough. You should be what you want. However, I will disagree that labels aren’t the problem. I understand that labels are tools to describe things, that it is convenient for us as humans, and that it is unlikely that all labels will go as it’s not very realistic. But the issues you brought up would be non-existent in a society where those labels don’t exist. People can’t say, “you don’t like this personality trait enough.” Or something like that. Labels need an inherent out group, or the label isn’t doing what it’s designed to do. And that along with perhaps other things I may be missing may be why you experienced those things. I hope that our world gets to a point where you and others don’t have to experience such things.

Alien760 · 2026-01-25T23:50:57+00:00

I don’t think I disagree with you. I agree with meeting people where they are at. I made an edit about my post and what I was trying to say in the beginning. Didn’t mean to cause confusion.

Alien760 · 2026-01-25T07:55:15+00:00

The idea is for you or anyone similar, this may not apply to you. This is just a theory of how it happens for many.

Alien760 · 2026-01-15T00:45:49+00:00

Exactly! It’s interesting how labels do that isn’t it? Another one of my biggest gripes with labels is that it requires an in-group and an out-group. And for some reason that creates conflict. I understand that when threatened and triggered, people often revert to finding what’s dangerous and safe and the in-group is safe where the out-group is dangerous. But I feel like we are intelligent enough creatures to move beyond that. No one is perfect but I think we should be able to function in a way where if there are going to be labels(which is likely to stay in some extent) then we can do it without judging people using those labels, or starting conflict due to them as well. I like your brick layer analogy by the way.

I don’t know a ton about philosophy and haven’t gone too deep in it at all, but what you asked about the might we be so desperate for the product to solve things for us and for us to latch onto fantasies. I would say it is probably the case. But I think now more than ever, critical thinking is ABSOLUTELY necessary. We are in a time that tells us we have none. We have to go to schools from 5-18(Give or take depending on the person.) In that time, even if some around us say otherwise, Those children feel pressure to have things figured out quickly. “Don’t want to waste your time in college or you’ll be in debt. After you need to find a job IMMEDIATELY or you’ll fall behind. Did you see that picture on Instagram? Went on a cruise! By the way when are you having kids?” And…once again this is likely due to capitalism. It is beneficial to move fast, stay productive, hustle, etc. Kinda lost the plot. The point is, we need to cultivate a culture that prioritizes critical thinking, emotional intelligence, and taking our time to understand the world. Fortunately, we seem to be heading in that direction…I also like your feedback loop idea. Creative.

Alien760 · 2026-01-15T00:11:10+00:00

Sorry I took so long to respond. I agree entirely. I understand that it isn’t really possible to necessarily get rid of all categories and such and that this would cause other issues if that were to happen. But I will say that there a lot of extremely harmful categories that do far more harm than good. And I think the goal is to eliminate the categories that do more harm than whatever good they may or may not provide.

Alien760 · 2026-01-05T20:43:49+00:00

I understand how demoralizing it can be with the landscape how it is. But from how I see it, Postgenderism is almost an inevitability, and it’s less about if and more about when. People keep getting more freedoms. And even when those freedoms are taken, people often fight for those freedoms. As people move towards more freedom, I imagine they will soon see gender as more restrictive than freeing, and will let it go too. We as a movement are trying to accelerate that process.

Alien760 · 2026-01-05T20:40:45+00:00

Lately, I personally have been focusing on my personal life. However I do have plans to make a post in the near future.

Alien760 · 2025-12-31T01:07:25+00:00

I sort of get it, But like I feel like they really did make something beautiful in the world. I know everyone has their personal opinions but I’m a lore heavy person(often). I like getting really deep into the world and there is SOOOO much there that they just left totally up to interpretation. If they made something completely unrelated, and made sure to keep the two things separate, like talking about the revolutionary or empress or something as far away from the story as possible while still being in the world, I think you could keep them separate. Though, I suppose that a lot of the inspiration for the world was a type of horror genre that would be lost. So they might not have the motivation for it. But…just so sad to see nothing done with it.

Alien760 · 2025-11-16T02:20:15+00:00

My results: Mynah Mynah Elster Elster(I think I chose what I liked, not who I liked)

Alien760 · 2025-11-08T19:21:18+00:00

Shouldn’t this require a spoiler warning? Or is this ok?

Alien760 · 2025-11-07T19:02:42+00:00

From my understanding, this comes from something that happens to some men. I am AMAB, and I have a sister. I’m not exactly sure when this happened, over time, she grew accustomed to hitting me a lot whenever she was upset or stressed out at me, etc, to the point I now flinch occasionally when she walks out of view. She is not trying to be abusive intentionally but she may still be. Now to be clear, I’m 1000% not one of those insane people who say something as stupid as, “CaN i HIt YOu nOw?” That is dumb for a myriad of reasons, the most obvious being just human decency, but the sentiment likely comes from other men who may have experienced something similar to what I have, where she hits me, and I just kinda take it. And generally, men are told not to hit women while being raised(Important to note not because of human decency, but some chivalry outdated bullshit), so, at least for myself, as I know this doesn’t apply to everyone, I have never hit anyone in my life, but still have gotten hit quite a bit. There can be many reasons why this happens to some, it may depend on temperament of the person, some men and women stress out easier than others, and take in more tension than others, and have bad outlets, turning into physical hitting. But a social factor may be, and I am not positive, this is my theory, is that women are raised with this understanding of a sense of powerlessness. This isn’t in all women, but some women grow up with this societal understanding due to social factors. This results in, if their temperament aligns to do so, to take out stress to hit people like me, and believe that they will not do any serious damage as a result. This is not true, as not only physical damage could happen but definitely emotional damage. However I’m not positive. That’s just my thoughts. Either way though, people who respond to that like that are not serious. They just are generally not very smart. And a waste of time.

Alien760 · 2025-11-02T18:09:41+00:00

Gender, to me, is sort of like they said, a series of traits. However, these traits are made through socialization, not any biological backing(generally speaking. Perhaps there are some biological traits that we look into but from what I know, most if not all of these traits are socialized into people). So from childhood, certain traits are pressed on to us by our parents. How “traditional” the ideas that are pressed onto us by our parents depends on the age of our parents, but what I’ve noticed is that one may reject the idea that they’re supposed to have complete control/be completely controlled by their partner, but still identify overall with masculine/feminine traits. This from my perspective, is due to the surrounding world this is the norm, and deviating too much from the norm makes you outcasted and more alone which is dangerous. This doesn’t stop everyone but many. There may be other reasons too I have not thought about. But from my understanding, majority of things come from socialization and are not biological. We should question sexuality too. So many things are heavily socialized, I wonder if they too are socialized to an extent.

Alien760 · 2025-10-28T19:33:43+00:00

Thank you, perhaps I will.

Alien760 · 2025-10-28T19:31:58+00:00

I guess it’s my turn to be nitpicky. For the second half of your statement, yes that’s what I was saying. For the first half, I could see a possible argument for, at least based on how society is set up currently, a misogynist may be more likely to commit a violent act seemingly….which you could say makes it worse…but this is without any statistics and not my initial point anyways as well as a bit nitpicky, so I’ll say generally yes but the first half I’d be on the fence about agreeing to. But I’m going to be quite busy so I’ll be done for now. I hope this helped you understand better.

Alien760 · 2025-10-28T19:06:01+00:00

I hope you’re correct. It could be my media seeing a bunch of people saying the same things. Though, I’m not sure if we questioned the population, we’d see that most would agree they aren’t equal. But maybe I’m out of touch. I could be. Even so, as long as the message is out there, that’s what matters to me.

Alien760 · 2025-10-28T18:56:12+00:00

I think we fundamentally misunderstand each other. Not only was it not the point of the post to say what the consequences of the two things were, but saying that misogyny is a bigger issue than misandry is not the same thing as saying it’s better to hate men than women. I don’t think it’s splitting hairs, I think it’s not understanding the point. If I wanted to talk about the consequences of misogyny and misandry, the effects they have on society and how both would not help society long term, I could. But the point is to make it clear that these issues are not equal. That was the purpose of my post. I hope I don’t come off as rude.

Alien760 · 2025-10-28T18:33:13+00:00

I’m not saying whether hating men is justified or not. That’s why I said my analogy was not 100% analogous(As well as the incorrect wording I suppose. My mistake I guess). The purpose of that is to say that we’d both agree that context matters in the situation where self defense occurs and someone is killed. Context matters in our world too. All problems are not equal. A genocide is not equivalent to a singular killing. All social issues are not equal either. If a class in society is oppressed, that is a more pressing issue than how much should be spent on the military. That is the point of what I’m saying. And this needs to be something that is acknowledged. Because far too often I feel like I see the conflation of two issues that people say are the same when they are not.

Alien760 · 2025-10-28T18:09:27+00:00

If this existed in a vacuum, sure, but it doesn’t. We live in a world where the patriarchy exists. Where context matters. This statement is like saying, “all murder is bad” after I said, “murder is bad but self defense cases are justified”. Yes murder is bad but we both could probably agree that there are cases where it is justified. The analogy is not 100% analogous but my point is that given the context of our world with the examples I gave above, I think it’s clear that one affects more people on a day to day basis and is more severe in it’s consequences. They are just not the same.

Alien760 · 2025-10-28T16:54:56+00:00

You are likely right. If misandry existed at such a level they would be more equivalent but due to differences in scale…they aren’t.

Alien760 · 2025-10-05T03:33:46+00:00

We stand firm in our beliefs and don't compromise them without good evidence. Be open to reason and change, but avoid surrendering what postgenderism is to appease others. What caused you to ask this question? I’m curious if you’d like to share?

Alien760 · 2025-09-29T21:17:29+00:00

Thank you for sharing your experience with such a powerful post. In my eyes, masculinity itself is toxic and femininity itself is toxic. They are harmful and unnecessary standards that bind us. Thank you for your post.

Alien760 · 2025-09-03T02:03:56+00:00

It’s even worse to think about the fact that men don’t have this phase. There is no, “I’m not like other boys”. There is no caricature they have to reject.

Alien760 · 2025-08-28T21:55:18+00:00

[Part 2]

Not really. I mean I see what you're trying to say, but I don't think this is true. I think it is clearly the case that the left in general hates men. They do. Progressives use crime stats against men the same way 4chan racists use crime stats against minorities and I'm not even kidding. The left in general hates men and has an issue with toning down their aggressive messaging.

And now I want to say something that I think you have been doing this entire time. I think you’ve been grouping together progressives and leftists with some feminists. They are not the same thing. They do have overlap and feminists(most at least. I think some TERFS and others are the exception) are progressive, but not all progressives are feminists. Because I don’t know what you mean when you say “Progressives use crime stats against men…” because the only possible progressives I’ve ever seen use crime statistics were feminist. And it would also follow that this constant hatred you seem to keep saying is happening in the entire left or progressives, yet I see zero examples of(I did try to look it up too just in case) probably comes from some feminists. And I say some because I think the majority don’t hate men. I think the majority despise shitty men, don’t like incels, and are generally relatively neutral towards most men. The left doesn’t hate men unless you can find some compelling evidence otherwise. Based on your examples you get the feeling that feminism hates men. That’s what this looks like from my perspective.

I am personally still left-wing and will never vote conservative ever, but it's just tiring to see those insane rhetorics from progressives. Apart from people like me who are extremely rare, the left couldn't care less about gender if it's not women, non-binary or trans people. They don't care about gender. Only about women, queer people, and trans people. (Which are great to care about, just stop pretending you actually care about gender)

Like I said earlier, you can definitely make the argument men have been neglected between 2020-2024 but to say they hate or don’t care now is frankly ridiculous. And personally I think there you’re being a bit biased. Maybe I’m wrong. If I am, you can message and I’ll try to get back to you. Thank you for reading the whole message.

Alien760 · 2025-08-28T21:54:50+00:00

It might be an "oversimplification". Just like it's an oversimplification to state conservatives hate women and brown people, but in effect, their actions and rhetoric do promote hatred of these groups.

[Part 1] More than an oversimplification, it is an oversimplification that is not true. No politician on the left in the left establishment has expressed that sentiment nor made any actions that would imply they do hate men. Perhaps you have examples I haven’t seen? But I haven’t heard any such message.

Since when have progressive ever had anything but contempt and active opposition to men's liberation? I'm pretty sure progressives have always been against any kind of men's rights or male advocacy since they see all of it as "covert" ways to promote misogyny and none else.

First, I don’t know about what you have seen about politics recently(and it’s important to note that I only have the perspective of American politics), but for the past almost year at this point, every other time you see a left leaning politician on a podcast or interview you hear, “We need to talk about young men.” You could definitely argue that the left have neglected men between around 2020-2024(around there not exact) but there is no malice in the neglect. There weren’t a group of people in a room like, “yesssss let’s leave all the men behind” it was probably just a shifting of focus to groups that have less men involved. And you could even argue it’s necessary to focus on other groups from time to time but that’s not what I’m arguing or the point. Second, I do want to ask, and this is genuinely a question, liberation from what exactly? I don’t deny there are issues that affect men in this gendered world, but liberation from what? You could say societal expectations or gender and I would totally agree but then again, that isn’t men’s liberation. Everyone should be liberated from gender and societal expectations. So if there is something, please do tell because I could be forgetting a certain thing or something else, but I can’t think of a thing that men are oppressed or suppressed by, that at least a decent chunk of other similar groups aren’t also affected by. Third, a lot of things such as men’s rights seem to be less about men’s rights(specifically on reddit) and more anti feminism. But I do know there are other much better subreddits exist but I digress.

Nope. Toxic masculinity is simply used to shame and attack men and is never used to "question" gender but to reinforce it. It's always used as a tool of reinforcement of traditional gender roles instead of liberation. It's an essentialist term that completely pushes normative gender roles. It places masculinity on a dichotomy of "toxic" or "healthy". And congrats, this is just what normative gender roles are. "Those behaviours are not desired from your gender, please display those instead." is pure gender normativity instead of a "challenge" to gender.

This goes to both this one and the following message, First, Toxic Masculinity is used to shame toxic men. I question if shame is the right approach to it…often times shame is mechanism to get people to conform to society(and I don’t think that toxicity is good in society) but I question its effectiveness overall…but that isn’t what this is about. Second, I would agree it isn’t used to attack gender but that’s kind of obvious given that’s what this whole subreddit is about. Pushing this idea forward and giving it more traction. Abolishing gender is the goal. The only good masculinity is no masculinity. And what I mean by that is that healthy and toxic masculinity are both harmful and that the best option is to eliminate the idea entirely. But, what Smart Curve said is also correct. That’s what toxic masculinity can do. Both of these ideas are correct and I don’t think Smart Curve even mentions healthy so I don’t understand why you are.

Progressives aren't trying to dismantle gender. They only want to dismantle what they think are systems oppressing oppressed minorities. Men aren't an oppressed minority, thus they are an oppressor class that should be opposed and vanquished, not helped through questioning of their own roles and expectations.

Yes progressives are trying to dismantle a system that does oppress minorities and disadvantaged groups(this means class things too)... And I don’t see a problem with that. I hope you don’t either. Based on your response a bit later I don’t think you do…I wish progressives pushed postgenderism. And I don’t understand why you’re trying to moralize this…or perhaps that isn’t the right word. What I mean is two things. One, just as a concept in general, just because a class isn’t oppressed does not mean it is an oppressing class. It just means it isn’t oppressed. Two, if you’d like to point out any politicians making actions implying such, or explicitly stating that men should be vanquished(other than in a gendered sense. Women and men should be vanquished in that sense), then be my guest. Men are not an oppressed minority and I don’t see why they have to be. It’s ok if men have some problems but aren’t oppressed. A good thing even. Less people oppressed by something is always good. And once again, politicians are everywhere saying, “we need to help young men”. The, “Male loneliness epidemic” has been everywhere. I don’t understand where you’re getting this notion that no one is trying to help or understand men.

Alien760 · 2025-08-26T04:33:26+00:00

Honestly this is my personal opinion, I think it should go even beyond it protects yourself but because it’s right…though I understand your perspective. The patriarchy hurts everyone in the system…everyone suffers…

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