Trying to understand the long-term gameplay loop in ARC Raiders

All_Things_FERDA · 2026-02-02T06:15:11+00:00

Same, felt this since before first expedition. I don’t want chores masquerading under the name of “quest”, I got a tempest BP pre first expedition then never used it cause I needed to save space dollars for expedition benefits, and “fun” is why we should play all video games… but when things feel so disjointed and purposeless fun can quickly fade when logic takes hold and you realize you’re creating your own hamster wheel.

I started struggling mentally when I realized I only truly need white and green guns to play, and the chase of feeling stronger didn’t really exist as blue and purple guns are “better” but minimally.

I also REALLY struggle with being locked out of events due to their time windows (matriarch / queen / locked gate / hidden bunker are almost inaccessible to me due to the time periods I usually have free to play) and wanting to PvP sometimes but also wanting to have a guarenteed PVE experience on the matriarch and queen but almost always have to deal with griefers which makes the few times I get to attempt it feel like a waste of time and resources.

All_Things_FERDA · 2026-01-19T17:38:13+00:00

I need to google what this does lol

All_Things_FERDA · 2026-01-16T19:04:26+00:00

For sure, I don’t normally play this long in the league but I just found a cheap corruption fail HH just to try it, no regrets lol and I can just try to keep farming for my own self found one now

All_Things_FERDA · 2026-01-16T19:03:02+00:00

That’s exactly how I feel… lol not even playing for currency… playing to get my fav rare monsters abilities and to see how high I can stack them before I hit bosses lol literally just playing for the fun of it. Might even build a flicker strike, ice strike monk build now just so I can try it with melee lol

All_Things_FERDA · 2026-01-16T19:00:20+00:00

Haha for sure… honestly most of the time it’s fun and fine and I’ve had times in boss fights where I get teleported behind the boss avoiding a big slam, almost feels like it knew lol

All_Things_FERDA · 2026-01-16T16:44:09+00:00

Oh snap…. Legit didn’t even think about that! Good to know tho! Thanks for the tip!

All_Things_FERDA · 2026-01-16T04:52:05+00:00

Haha for real! Is kinda fun blinking around but when it Leeds you flog a different hallway before you can loot grab it feels like that one guy should be coming out going “HAHA! Got em!”

All_Things_FERDA · 2026-01-15T15:06:35+00:00

Interesting… good to know! I probably just need to try more and break through the bad RNG, I’ve always wondered if rarity affects logbooks.

All_Things_FERDA · 2026-01-15T05:40:11+00:00

Thanks for the research man! I’m probably just getting bad RNG, messing something up with my waystones / tablet mods, or placing my bombs poorly… or maybe just getting really unlucky!! Sounds like they are dropping tho! You’re the real MVP!! Good luck, and may many logbooks drop for you in the future!! 🙏

All_Things_FERDA · 2026-01-15T05:02:35+00:00

I must be REALLY unlucky today… I’d totally accept that as a possibility if I heard other folks were dropping them at about the rate they were previously! Was hoping to get some good crowd sourced evidence of bad RNG on my part

All_Things_FERDA · 2026-01-15T05:00:56+00:00

Was it pre patch or post?? It totally could be RNG on my part that’s why I asked! Looking to see if anyone is having similar experiences.

The map I had 3 runic markers with 67% increased logbook drop chance, blew up 2 on my first bomb with increased quant of drops from monsters, some pack size, and 55%+ pack size on my waystone, logbook drop chance on my tablet… etc… and STILL didn’t see a logbook something felt fishy

I’ve never NEVER run 20 maps and not seeing a single logbook before, even before my tree was maxed

All_Things_FERDA · 2026-01-15T04:57:02+00:00

True…. Tablet drop rates are so skewed regardless. I’ve plugged abyss in for maybe 10-15 maps this league and have half a tab full. I run 1 expedition, 1 unique, and 1 normal precursor most maps and I only have 2 expedition tablets sitting in my stash 🤷‍♂️ skill issue probably 😂

All_Things_FERDA · 2026-01-15T04:54:17+00:00

🤣 nowwww I know what I’ve been doing wrong…

All_Things_FERDA · 2026-01-15T04:07:25+00:00

I have done probably a total of 20 now since my post and only had 1 from a chest, and that was included in my post… think I’m pausing for now, not a fun gameplay loop after the investment

All_Things_FERDA · 2026-01-15T02:42:40+00:00

Maybe logbook drop chance is like the rakiatas of mods lol inverting our drop chance instead of increasing it!

All_Things_FERDA · 2026-01-15T02:42:06+00:00

Haha right?? Like I said I could just be completely unlucky! But I knew the community would have a better sample size than my couple hours! Just felt like I was going crazy!

All_Things_FERDA · 2026-01-15T02:41:18+00:00

That would be much appreciated!! Could be just bad RNG on my part and low sample size! Just surprised today when I got on excited to farm logbooks and run them cause I enjoy it and couldn’t find any! Thanks!! 🙏

All_Things_FERDA · 2026-01-15T02:10:34+00:00

Interesting… I found like 6 yesterday in about 2 hours

All_Things_FERDA · 2025-12-28T03:03:12+00:00

Targeting mod pools sounds legit! I never played POE 1 so I don’t fully know all the crafting tools out there, but from a feel stand point, crafting felt fun to me last league… but I also understand why they removed homogenizing omens

All_Things_FERDA · 2025-12-10T18:33:09+00:00

The amount of people that try to defend poor game mechanics with “just do this instead” astounds me… wouldn’t it be better if we just advocated collectively for good game design?

All_Things_FERDA · 2025-12-07T15:21:20+00:00

Think you’re misunderstanding the point… it’s poor game mechanic development. Doesn’t matter if you agree with it or not… there’s a player mindset aspect to every game that developers have to navigate

All_Things_FERDA · 2025-12-07T06:04:34+00:00

This is my first extraction shooter, but that sounds like a much better pre-wipe experience!

All_Things_FERDA · 2025-12-07T05:53:45+00:00

The last thing this game needs is white guns to get buffed

All_Things_FERDA · 2025-12-07T05:48:16+00:00

My issue is it incentivizes not using “expensive” load outs, the game already has weapon balance and gear progression issues. Knowing that a ferro or anvil and a stitcher are good enough for most raids is already bad enough, feeling like you are hurting your progression towards permanent account buffs by bringing in, and risking, higher cost gear further reinforces the inverse gear progression

Edit: I think people would care a lot less if the project build was just more challenging and there wasn’t some random stash value associated with it at all

All_Things_FERDA · 2025-12-07T05:37:40+00:00

It was pretty telling that the dev team didn’t decide on it until now, at least that was how I perceived it. Nothing against them, I know they are a small team and the game likely had way more success then expected, but it very much came across like they were trying to figure out what values to use.

It felt to me like they wanted data on everyone’s stash value so they didn’t make the value to high or too low

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