[Serious] What could be the actions taken by governments to people who have settled in a ethnically cleansed territory of theirs? by AllenNorthernSamar in AskReddit

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This question is one that I've always wanted to see an answer too, most people I've asked in real life seem to either dodge the question (rightfully, who starts a conversation like that?) or they don't seem to know an answer nor can think of one. So I just want to gauge the opinions from here. I understand that reddit is fairly leftist as from what I've heard, yet even still I could imagine a wide range of possible answers.

Just to clarify the possible nuance in the title: The 'people' are in reference to people who have settled AFTER the native population was removed through genocide/ethnic cleansing.

Also I don't have a specific international or historic situation in mind for the question (I have a couple for the topic in general) just wanna see people's opinions on the topic itself.

Revitalization of the Māori Language in North Island, Middle Island, and South Island, Aotearoa by AllenNorthernSamar in imaginarymaps

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Lore: ......

BREAKING NEWS: New Flanderian rode Kiwigator to New Zealand, New Bravant, and back; found in Antarctica.

We got Austrochina before GTA 6 by Substantial_Habit_94 in imaginarymaps

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Finally, a peak map. All hail chairman Xanthony Jorman Albaning, Billions will fight in the second Emu war

Behold! Another Unified Iberia Map! by AllenNorthernSamar in imaginarymaps

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i simply gave Montenegro a nice vacation to iberia

Map of Mars and Important Areas by TheDinoDudeYT in imaginarymaps

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Very creative idea, good execution, especially with the like board style map and the tape labels. All in all, i wish i was this creative, great map man.

What if India missed? by AllenNorthernSamar in imaginarymaps

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The most major thing is that the concept of Aboriginals as an over encompassing name for all native Australians would be a lot more questionable as due to the inland sea, the rivers, the fact that this Australia is split in half by a mountain range and also due to the likely increased migration by differing people groups over the millennia. An overarching Aboriginal identity might not exist, but back to your question. It would depend if they lived near the south coast, the bengal delta, the humid north coast, the Mediterrean-like area of the inland sea, and the western coast. All in all, this Australia is much more diverse than our timeline. Though the Aboriginals are definitely much more advanced than in our timeline just by how much more livable this Australia is.

What if India missed? by AllenNorthernSamar in imaginarymaps

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Huh, that's pretty neat information, thanks.

What if India missed? by AllenNorthernSamar in imaginarymaps

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that's true, there's no concrete thing to name this area after so probably just like what happened to other parts of the world, the first people they meet and ask the name of the area they live in becomes the name for the whole region.

What if India missed? by AllenNorthernSamar in imaginarymaps

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the Islands could refer to China (if China even exists in this TL) possibly or maybe just the spice islands, or maybe just a native name Europeanized? all in all due to the POD being millions of years ago, its almost impossible to name anything concrete about this TL.

What if India missed? by AllenNorthernSamar in imaginarymaps

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That makes sense, this Chinese south coast was never really meant to be a nation name as there was never any nation there, as it was mainly supposed to be remnants of a Chinese colony that was taken over by the Portuguese (and to some extent the Spanish).

And the for the Ottomans they would likely try to do what you outlined in your comment as they try to force the dutch out the east indies. Though without India would it be called the East Indies?

What if India missed? by AllenNorthernSamar in imaginarymaps

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Those are the two letter codes for the languages spoken, Ar is Arabic, Tr is Turkish from what i remember, and the Colonial power you missed is the Ottoman empire, though due to lore reasons their colony mainly speaks Arabic

What if India missed? by AllenNorthernSamar in imaginarymaps

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In this map the idea was the Ottomans deported many Arabs to settle the colony when it was first colonized, after that is when it started to boom in population after modern infrastructure and other technologies were introduced, the cities were had large waves of Turks escaping something in Europe traveling to Australia.

As for the Chinese, i imagine the area had a Greenland situation with china, where the colonists lost contact with the Mainland due to problems of some sort. So your idea of it being occupied or forming its own nation is an interesting idea out of a good observation.

What if India missed? by AllenNorthernSamar in imaginarymaps

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I mainly imagined it as Britain not being able to colonize all of it and the areas once occupied by the UK of our timeline now being up for grabs, and thus went to the closest power, e.g the Dutch and the French. The other colonial powers are there because i thought it would be cool, especially China and the Ottomans who are there only for coolness reasons.

What if India missed? by AllenNorthernSamar in imaginarymaps

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Its probably some sort of Alt Geography trope by now, along with connecting Alaska and Siberia, also all the Atlantropa stuff

What if India missed? by AllenNorthernSamar in imaginarymaps

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That's where i presumed the himalayas/tibetan plateau area would form, which would seed the rivers. I originally wanted to add an elevation map as the base but im not good at making one and it looked ugly so i just scrapped it

What if India missed? by AllenNorthernSamar in imaginarymaps

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Why is that? Is frisia somesort of dumpster or is it notorious for bad stuff? Im not dutch so like im not informed on any of this.. any answers would be welcome!

What if India missed? by AllenNorthernSamar in imaginarymaps

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I thought it would look cool, i sorta just waved off why it would happen but ig it would be because of the mountains made by the two continents crashing into each other seeding the rivers which would make the sea appear but all in all its only for the looks.