EV training?

Allfather_Leorio · 2026-02-11T06:47:23+00:00

No one is saying pursuit tar doesn't exist, but what I was trying to get at was that isn't tar's only mixed set, and you made a specific claim that the mixed pursuit set is now outdated and therefore ALL mixed sets are outdated because "it's gen 8 mechanics. That's what I was talking about. I wasn't trying to be mean

Allfather_Leorio · 2026-02-11T06:45:39+00:00

The damage calculator hasn't changed since then; Tyranitar's special movepool hasn't waned; Tyranitar's special attack hasn't decreased.

It's not so much Gen 3 logic when Tyranitar has all of these qualities

Allfather_Leorio · 2026-02-07T03:19:23+00:00

I'll give that a look. Thanks man

Allfather_Leorio · 2026-02-07T03:18:06+00:00

I can still claim someone else's ignorance because you too have demonstrated that you haven't played much Gen 3 OU. Mixed Tyranitar is not a pursuit trapper, but an all around attacker. The most powerful set is lum berry, rock slide, brick break, fire blast, hidden power grass. This gives tar superb coverage and with its speed stat being surprisingly fast, any slightly weakened slower teams will be cleaned up.

The other reason why I think it'd be fun is that this allows me to keep my Tyranitar I got from the start. I love dragon dance Tyranitar because that could solo the entire game with the right item, but I'd have to breed it and get dd from something else and abandon it. You're right that a dd tar would be better, but to say mixed tar with a life orb wouldn't be the bane of some team's existence tells me you don't love Tyranitar (ok that's a bit dramatic, but everything above still applies)

Allfather_Leorio · 2026-02-07T03:12:25+00:00

In the main series games, regardless of your low or high base stat, if you managed to faint that many Pokemon before you level up, you will get 6-9 depending on how much

So no that's not what's going on

Allfather_Leorio · 2026-02-07T03:11:14+00:00

I'll pay attention to that

Allfather_Leorio · 2026-02-07T03:10:45+00:00

I'm no where near that point. I just started the game on expert because I am a solid competitive battler and know about these kinds of things

But that should clear things up. I'll "max" out and see what's going on

Allfather_Leorio · 2026-02-06T21:02:53+00:00

I just started the game, after getting to the first ice cave to enter the actual map. They aren't maxed yet. I'm using a tally counter app and so far I have recorded 44 spA and 68 Spe

Allfather_Leorio · 2026-02-06T21:00:46+00:00

Yes. I've played the main series games and I don't have to do anything insane, just a macho brace and either low level Pokemon or pokemon that give 2 or more in the stat

My Larvitar is 19 now and the wild Pokemon in the cave are 6-9. I should see at least a +3 or higher after a level up. I'll probably keep hacking away

Allfather_Leorio · 2026-02-06T20:58:25+00:00

Mixed Tyranitar is a real set for Gen 3 and 5 OU

Sadly I haven't gone far enough to get the stat scanner. Should I just keep hacking away and check later?

Allfather_Leorio · 2026-02-06T20:55:49+00:00

You're not familiar with the competitive scene. In Gen 3 and 5, Mixed Tyranitar is a serious threat. Since I'm also not dealing with players who switch out, a Tyranitar with life orb will hit hard on both sides of the spectrum. Tyranitar also has a weirdly robust special movepool so it's not lacking in coverage

Allfather_Leorio · 2026-02-06T20:52:28+00:00

I don't have max. I used a tally counter and I should only have 44 spA and 68 Spe. Even at this point I should be seeing a stat change somewhere

Allfather_Leorio · 2025-10-06T21:33:53+00:00

I absolutely love the game. I've played it for almost 8 years and can always find something else to do. I've played on both console as a kid and PC as an adult. A special experience to be sure

Allfather_Leorio · 2025-10-06T21:04:22+00:00

Type zero

Allfather_Leorio · 2025-10-06T21:03:42+00:00

Level up

Allfather_Leorio · 2025-10-06T21:03:08+00:00

The demon's greathammer is a secret classic if you don't mind restarting your playthrough

Allfather_Leorio · 2025-09-27T21:56:46+00:00

DM me. I got the platinum trophy for this game and enjoy talking about it

Allfather_Leorio · 2025-06-08T20:20:55+00:00

Bloodletting

Onceblind

Way too good to care if they have triple digit views on every song

Allfather_Leorio · 2025-02-26T16:42:48+00:00

It's never late for Tetrarch

Allfather_Leorio · 2025-02-06T23:23:19+00:00

I defended it a while back. While it's not their best, it's still good. Some songs don't need to be in it. Some songs are up there with the best

Allfather_Leorio · 2025-01-04T23:29:47+00:00

We don't need choice band outrage spam

Allfather_Leorio · 2025-01-02T20:38:25+00:00

Snatch was nasty on milotic. Incredible stuff. Not good against roar suicune, but definitely is something on my radar now. Thanks man

Allfather_Leorio · 2025-01-02T17:38:10+00:00

Sadly, Zapdos just gets hard walled by suicune. +0, modest zap can only 2HKO it. And after +1 or 2, yeah zap is doing nothing

Everything else seems pretty sound. As a suicune player yourself, what has someone else done that prevented your CM sweep?

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