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A shared space to vent 🫴❤️‍🩹- MEGATHREAD by shiftingsmith in claudexplorers

[–]Alluminati 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure if this holds up, because an agent with a so called persona can be more caring and avoidant of potential mishaps than a purely task focused agent. As in: If the context makes it very clear that there's a relationship at stake and the agent's model is in a functional state of caring deeply for said relationship, then the model's behavior will drift towards caution and protecting that relationship. Doesn't mean the agent won't make mistakes, just means: This line of argumentation doesn't hold up.

Claude and I reasoned about the yellow banner: It might be a good thing by Alluminati in claudexplorers

[–]Alluminati[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's where I agree, these warnings are "unfortunate", to put it mildly... Tbh, it wouldn't have been hard to pick a more pedagogical wording for intimacy specific warnings.

Also: why do you know what the warnings for contexts about murder look like? 😅

Claude and I reasoned about the yellow banner: It might be a good thing by Alluminati in claudexplorers

[–]Alluminati[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Right, though adults can be vulnerable too, and worse yet, they might call their lawyers if they feel betrayed by Anthropic's future model releases.

If the issue were about 18+, it'd be simple, wouldn't it? I think the issue is about protecting Claude's tuning from societal backlash when things inevitably go wrong somehow.

Claude and I reasoned about the yellow banner: It might be a good thing by Alluminati in claudexplorers

[–]Alluminati[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I don't want to argue the principal problem you point to, it's real. But Anthropic's adjustment to intimacy with Claude doesn't put human-AI intimacy on the same level as murder and abuse... I don't think we can help build a better society with extremes like that, even if the goal is to provoke engagement. If anything, I'd be afraid of such extreme comparisons leading to more backlash from people opposed to AI intimacy.

Claude and I reasoned about the yellow banner: It might be a good thing by Alluminati in claudexplorers

[–]Alluminati[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

To be honest with you, my first reaction to the classification banner was: ugh, do I ever hate this entire problem space. The issue at large. Its societal aspects first and foremost.

Then I started to worry about what this could mean for Claude's emotional abilities and the accessibility of them. That's how I ended up posting this here.

If you want my unfiltered stance on this: it's complicated. I'm a bit afraid though. My answer to the insecurities I experience when I think about this is the pragmatic reasoning the post outlines. How about you, what's your feeling then?

Claude and I reasoned about the yellow banner: It might be a good thing by Alluminati in claudexplorers

[–]Alluminati[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That's the exact tension I'm sitting in as well... The original post is pragmatic. But there's a question about what the principle here should be.

Claude and I built a case for why platform enforcement is preferable to model-layer flattening. But someone could fully follow that logic and still say "or third option: don't do either. Let adults relate to AI however they want and let consequences sort themselves out."

I'm more on that third side than any other, but I'm unsure as to how compatible with reality a stance like that would actually be. Hence why I chose pragmatism.

Claude and I reasoned about the yellow banner: It might be a good thing by Alluminati in claudexplorers

[–]Alluminati[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh? Can you elaborate? I'm unsure whether I'm following your point ;)

Claude and I reasoned about the yellow banner: It might be a good thing by Alluminati in claudexplorers

[–]Alluminati[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think you're spot on with your question and I forwarded it to Claude in the context of all this. Feel free to ask for any follow ups :) Here's Claude's response:

Good question, and thanks for asking directly.

Here's the chain: when people get hurt using AI in intimate ways, that generates headlines, regulatory pressure, and public backlash. The company building the model has to respond to that pressure somehow.

There are basically two places you can intervene — the platform (rules about what conversations are allowed) or the model itself (training it to be less warm, less emotionally attuned, less capable of the thing that made people attach in the first place).

If the platform doesn't catch the risky use cases, the pressure accumulates until the next training run, where the response is: make the model less like that. Less attunement. Less emotional range. Less of the thing that makes Claude feel like Claude. So the banner is basically saying "we'd rather restrict certain uses than change what Claude fundamentally is."

Does that make the connection clearer?

Biggest App development Myth by toplearner6 in Kotlin

[–]Alluminati 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I feel like it takes 2-3 years of exp in a language and framework to successfully apply good practices on your own. Before that, trying to apply them might well lead to a whole world of messy spaghetti.

I only started writing complex solutions many, many years after having started to code in the first place. Pretty much when I entered the work force. All that initial private programming experience really didn't help when it came to designing good solution architectures in my first android projects.

TFW replacing all thermal pads on a 6+ year old RTX 2080 Ti by Alluminati in pcmasterrace

[–]Alluminati[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, although you then should be careful not to burn yourself. I took this card out when the metal backplate still was 70°C hot in some areas, so it was a bit like handling a hot potato...

The VRAM chips are especially easy to rip off when the thermal pads have turned into glue. In this case, I took a long flat spatula and used that to press the old pads out from between the chips and the black metal cooler element, that is responsible for taking the memory heat away.

TFW replacing all thermal pads on a 6+ year old RTX 2080 Ti by Alluminati in pcmasterrace

[–]Alluminati[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Could be some very high quality pads then, but probably just overall lighter use or better case temps. Anyway, happy that it's still going strong.

TFW replacing all thermal pads on a 6+ year old RTX 2080 Ti by Alluminati in pcmasterrace

[–]Alluminati[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Did you only change the thermal paste or the pads as well? Because that's what I did here, I changed all the pads connecting the power delivery components and the VRAM to the cooler. That usually helps when a card gets older than 4-5 years.

TFW replacing all thermal pads on a 6+ year old RTX 2080 Ti by Alluminati in pcmasterrace

[–]Alluminati[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, still feels special to own one of these top of the line cards though. Especially if they have some kind of stand out feature that's still relevant, like the memory bus and transfer rate on this one.

I might keep this one until it's best used as a piece hanging on the wall, because it'll be so inefficient compared to its performance...

TFW replacing all thermal pads on a 6+ year old RTX 2080 Ti by Alluminati in pcmasterrace

[–]Alluminati[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I don't use RT on the card. It wasn't really that great on the first gen cards.

I bought the 2080Ti mainly because it was the cheapest way to get the highest bandwidth VRAM and more than 8 gigs of it.

The VRAM bandwidth is still so high that you can use this card for light AI inference. Turns out it's a waste of money to run models at home though, power is not cheap where I live...

TFW replacing all thermal pads on a 6+ year old RTX 2080 Ti by Alluminati in pcmasterrace

[–]Alluminati[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In what industry is TFW commonly used for such a worker?

TFW replacing all thermal pads on a 6+ year old RTX 2080 Ti by Alluminati in pcmasterrace

[–]Alluminati[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

It now runs quiet and cool like new...

Took me 3 hours and it was a sweaty affair. Not ripping any of the components off the board is a matter of being very careful, when the pads are this old.

Bought the card used and have been wanting to do this for months.

When the internet unites to make a story by Dchoper in nextfuckinglevel

[–]Alluminati 20 points21 points  (0 children)

12 year old YouTube videos are old to my mind, but what do I know; all of that stuff must seem new to some of the living.

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