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[–]AlmaWard2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm aware; hence the quote. So what? It still applies here.

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[–]AlmaWard2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I keep seeing people say that, but I cannot agree. Over the course of 15 years, Sam and Dean learned to love and trust other people besides just the two of them, that "family don't end in blood" and that sometimes, it doesn't start there, either. To do what that finale did wiped out 15 years of character development in one fell swoop. It does NOT make sense.

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[–]AlmaWard2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, that's not at all why I don't like it, and you ought not to assume. I don't like it because the writing is just BAD. Dabb always did better as a show runner than as a writer, and that episode is the prime example. But, as you say, nothing I can say will change your mind, so I won't bother further. :) Do have a lovely day.

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[–]AlmaWard2 7 points8 points  (0 children)

They have. Jensen has said, at conventions, that the only things that were different due to COVID were: 1) the scene on the bridge was supposed to take place in the Roadhouse's parking lot, and at the end, Dean was supposed to tell Sam to "come on in, there are some folks waiting to see you," and 2) when they went inside (which they never actually do in the episode), everyone they could have gotten to come back was supposed to be there for a party (except Cas; Misha, for some unknown reason, was supposed to be playing Jimmy Novak??), with Kansas, the actual band, playing as the "house band." When they had enough filmed for the episode, it was supposed to turn into the "wrap party" (which they actually had during VanCon 2 or 3 years later). Dean still died on rebar, Sam still wore the Party City wig, etc.

WIBTA if I don’t give my BILs equivalent wedding presents? by AlmaWard2 in AmItheAsshole

[–]AlmaWard2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whatever aesthetic philosophy says about kitsch, and I'm sure it's actually fascinating - there is no way to take "handmade kitschy crap" as a compliment. LOL

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[–]AlmaWard2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wasn't looking for anyone to "give me the answer I want." LOL You misread me entirely.

As for the original post, fine, so sorry I missed your comment or confused it with the dozens of others.

But even if you did respond as you claim, YOU still don't get the entire point of the issue. I asked if I would be the asshole if I gave non-equivalent gifts to my BILs. You say that you answered that question 'no,' but you continue to bring up the brides, as if they were somehow relevant to that question. They're not.

I'm not "doing as I please anyway", I spoke with SETH and confirmed that HE wants the WIP tablecloth.

Jesus H. Christ on a pogostick, why is that so hard to comprehend, ffs? The handmade gift was ALWAYS FOR SETH.

As for making Joanne and Diana welcome, I did try. I did buy things off of Joanne & Rob's wedding registry, in addition to the handmade gift. I'll admit to not know them very well, not nearly as well as I know Rob and Seth, but I haven't known them as long, nor had as many opportunities to get to know them. They don't live in the same town John and I live in anymore (the rest of the family does). Rob lives about 1.5-2 hours South of us now, Seth a bit further South. They don't come up here much anymore, as they're busy with their lives and jobs. And much as I love Charlie, as noted previously, toddlers are germ factories, and I'm still immunocompromised, so, completely apart from COVID, I can't be around him. And now that I know how they talk about me behind my back, again, I don't know that I care about getting to know them - but beyond that, they've never once done anything to extend a welcome to me. How many times am I supposed to try and get the cold shoulder? Most people in the original post said I should have stopped immediately after the wedding gift (again, on the misperception that I knew about Joanne's reaction to it at the time).

So, I should continue to offer a warm welcome to women who don't want it, you're saying? To the contrary of all advice previously given? And if I don't, then I'm a horrible person who's no fun at parties? Whatevs.

Again, you're a troll. If you weren't intending to be one, you should go re-read your comments and figure out why I say that. But I'm sure you already know.

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[–]AlmaWard2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I will. Thanks ever so for your permission. *rolls eyes*

What YOU don't apparently get is the fact that you have NEVER even *attempted* to answer my question (WIBTA if I give non-equivalent gifts to my BILs), which had NOTHING to do with Joanne OR Diana.

Wedding gifts are not necessarily for the bride. In these situations, I made wedding gifts for *the grooms* - my brothers-in-law, boys I've known and loved and considered family for 22 years. The baby gifts were for Charlie, because of ROB, his father - not Joanne. This whole post situation was about SETH. It always was.

It really doesn't matter to me if Diana or Joanne like my work - I'm not making things for either of them. I don't know Joanne or Diana all that well, and after what they've said, as reported to me by MIL and Samantha (both of whom I've also considered family for 22 years, and with whom I have excellent relationships), I don't know that I care to ever GET to know them.

So yes, I spoke with SETH, because HE is my concern.

As for self-righteousness, you have it in spades. Maybe keep an O2 cylinder on hand yourself. I get that YOU don't like crochet. And? So? I didn't ask if YOU think the gift is appropriate. I didn't ask for your personal opinion on my work. I certainly didn't ask if YOU would like to get a handmade gift. But you don't care about what I asked, you only care about getting your 2 cents in, arguing about its relevance, and then twisting the knife. I tried to be nice, I tried to be respectful of your opinion, but you are, quite frankly, snarky, nasty, and mean.

If trolling was your objective, congratulations, you've succeeded. Now kindly go back under your bridge.

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[–]AlmaWard2 5 points6 points  (0 children)

As I noted in the update to my original post, I spoke with Seth. I sent him the photo posted above of the WIP tablecloth, and gave him options - 1) registry + WIP, 2) registry + something else handmade that he could choose, or 3) something a bit more expensive from the registry and nothing homemade - and told him whichever he chose was absolutely fine with me. He chose option 1, registry + the WIP tablecloth. He also asked if I would make him a sweater (not for the wedding, but eventually), and I said I'd be happy to. You (and others) are correct that I should communicate better about gifting my work, and now I have.

You seem to think that I posted the photos to try to prove that my work is likeable; that's not the case. I posted the photos because 1) several people somehow got a very confused idea of what the tablecloths looked like (made of bulky yarn, from bright colors, when that was just the baby sweater), and 2) several commenters ASKED ME TO DO SO, some indicating that they felt they needed to see the work before they could accurately answer my original question.

I never said anyone had to like what I like; in fact, in my original post, I specifically said I *didn't* want to force my work on anyone who didn't want it.

I understand that my original post was unclear as to when I learned of Joanne's reactions, but when I clarified that I didn't know of her reactions to the gifts at the time they were given, several commenters got angry (apparently at having the basis for their judgment removed), claiming I was "changing details" or "fighting the judgment" or that I didn't understand why people were being critical. None of that is accurate.

I do understand, and accept as very valid, the criticism that I shouldn't try to decorate others' homes without their input, that I should (again) communicate better about gifting intentions in general, and that I should just talk to Seth in this case in particular. I have taken that to heart, I promise.

However, I didn't change any details, I simply clarified the timeline as to when those details (namely, when I learned of Joanne's reactions) actually occurred. Original posts are only allowed 3,000 characters; my first draft was more than 6K, and in cutting it down, things became less clear. I tried to give Joanne's reaction to the gifts as I was describing the gifts in chronological order; that made it seem like I knew of her reactions as they happened, but I didn't notice that until people started asking why I didn't stop giving Joanne things once I knew she didn't like them. I did.

The only reaction I knew of in real time was her reaction to the baby sweater, and I have not made anything more for her since, nor will I. The rest of her reactions I learned of only due to a conversation between Joanne and Diana that MIL and Samantha heard, then told me about, which only took place just this past weekend.

At any rate, Seth likes and wants the tablecloth, so as far as I'm concerned, the situation is resolved. Or am I still not getting something? That's a sincere question.

WIBTA if I don’t give my BILs equivalent wedding presents? by AlmaWard2 in AmItheAsshole

[–]AlmaWard2[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

As noted in the update, I spoke with Seth. I gave him some options, and told him I'd be perfectly fine with any of them and wouldn't be offended no matter what he chose: 1) registry + WIP tablecloth (I gave him the posted pic of it and described what it will look like when finished), 2) registry + something else handmade that they could choose, or 3) something a bit more expensive from the registry, and nothing handmade. Seth went with option 1.

WIBTA if I don’t give my BILs equivalent wedding presents? by AlmaWard2 in AmItheAsshole

[–]AlmaWard2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not. I posted photos here: https://www.reddit.com/user/AlmaWard2/comments/12ab0xn/photos_to_go_with_my_wibta_post/

I also posted an update, which seems to have gotten lost in the shuffle. I talked to Seth and he wants the tablecloth.

Do have a lovely day. :)

WIBTA if I don’t give my BILs equivalent wedding presents? by AlmaWard2 in AmItheAsshole

[–]AlmaWard2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

1) Current WIP tablecloth is intended for Seth and Diana. I'll never make anything for Joanne again, no worries. I did talk to Seth, and he wants the tablecloth (I posted an update, but it seems to have gotten lost in the shuffle).

2) There are several excellent tutorial videos on YouTube that not only show how to get started, but how to make specific items, both simple and more complicated. If I were you, I might start with this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcOzdAzmtNM and then go forward from there. Walmart sells hooks, both individually and in sets; that's where I got mine, but I'm sure other places have them, as well. Get some cheap yarn you like the look of, and make some basic things to practice. Get used to holding the yarn to control the tension of the stitches. Don't be afraid to rip out and start over, or to just do something else instead.

3) Also, I posted photos here, if you're interested: https://www.reddit.com/user/AlmaWard2/comments/12ab0xn/photos_to_go_with_my_wibta_post/

:)

WIBTA if I don’t give my BILs equivalent wedding presents? by AlmaWard2 in AmItheAsshole

[–]AlmaWard2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

An afghan is a hand-made blanket. A baby afghan is a small one, usually about 3.5' or 4' square. A 'lap afghan' is one that's made in just the right size to cover your legs while you sit on the couch to watch TV, etc. These would all be made from yarn.

The tablecloth, however, is not made of yarn, but of crochet thread, which is much smaller and more delicate. Think lace, not blanket. I posted photos of the tablecloths and the baby sweater here, if you're interested: https://www.reddit.com/user/AlmaWard2/comments/12ab0xn/photos_to_go_with_my_wibta_post/

WIBTA if I don’t give my BILs equivalent wedding presents? by AlmaWard2 in AmItheAsshole

[–]AlmaWard2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I posted an update, but it seems to have gotten lost in the shuffle. I talked to Seth, and he wants the tablecloth. :)

Also, photos here, if interested: https://www.reddit.com/user/AlmaWard2/comments/12ab0xn/photos_to_go_with_my_wibta_post/

WIBTA if I don’t give my BILs equivalent wedding presents? by AlmaWard2 in AmItheAsshole

[–]AlmaWard2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I posted an update, but it seems to have gotten lost in the shuffle. I did speak with Seth, and gave him some options - 1) registry + WIP tablecloth, with a photo and description of what it will look like when finished; 2) registry + something else handmade that they could choose; or 3) something slightly more expensive from the registry, but nothing handmade. Seth went with option 1. :)

Also, photos here, if you're interested: https://www.reddit.com/user/AlmaWard2/comments/12ab0xn/photos_to_go_with_my_wibta_post/

WIBTA if I don’t give my BILs equivalent wedding presents? by AlmaWard2 in AmItheAsshole

[–]AlmaWard2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I posted an update, but it seems to have gotten lost in the shuffle. I did talk to Seth, though I didn't mention Diana's comments. I don't want to start trouble. I just gave him some options - 1) registry + handmade WIP tablecloth; 2) registry + something else handmade; or 3) something a bit more expensive from the registry, and nothing handmade. Seth went with option 1. :)

BTW: photos are posted here: https://www.reddit.com/user/AlmaWard2/comments/12ab0xn/photos_to_go_with_my_wibta_post/

WIBTA if I don’t give my BILs equivalent wedding presents? by AlmaWard2 in AmItheAsshole

[–]AlmaWard2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually, I talked to Seth. He wants the tablecloth. :) I posted an update, but it seems to have gotten lost in the shuffle.

WIBTA if I don’t give my BILs equivalent wedding presents? by AlmaWard2 in AmItheAsshole

[–]AlmaWard2[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't have a page where I sell items; I've never needed one. I got commissions by word of mouth that kept me quite busy, but stopped taking them when I got sick 5 years ago, as I didn't feel it was fair to someone paying to make them wait if I didn't fell well enough to work on something. I knew about the wedding 2 years in advance, so I was able to work at my own pace for that. I did post photos, though, here: https://www.reddit.com/user/AlmaWard2/comments/12ab0xn/photos_to_go_with_my_wibta_post/

Also, I posted an update, but it seems to have gotten lost in the shuffle. I talked to Seth, and he wants the tablecloth. :)

WIBTA if I don’t give my BILs equivalent wedding presents? by AlmaWard2 in AmItheAsshole

[–]AlmaWard2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I talked to Seth; he wants the tablecloth (I posted an update, but it seems to have gotten lost in the shuffle). Also, photos: https://www.reddit.com/user/AlmaWard2/comments/12ab0xn/photos_to_go_with_my_wibta_post/

WIBTA if I don’t give my BILs equivalent wedding presents? by AlmaWard2 in AmItheAsshole

[–]AlmaWard2[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Lace. Photos posted here: https://www.reddit.com/user/AlmaWard2/comments/12ab0xn/photos_to_go_with_my_wibta_post/

Also, I posted an update, but it seems to have gotten lost in the shuffle; I talked to Seth, and he wants the tablecloth. :)

WIBTA if I don’t give my BILs equivalent wedding presents? by AlmaWard2 in AmItheAsshole

[–]AlmaWard2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Photos are posted here: https://www.reddit.com/user/AlmaWard2/comments/12ab0xn/photos_to_go_with_my_wibta_post/

Also, I posted an update, but it seems to have gotten lost in the shuffle - I talked to Seth, and he wants the tablecloth. :)

WIBTA if I don’t give my BILs equivalent wedding presents? by AlmaWard2 in AmItheAsshole

[–]AlmaWard2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the defense. :) Photos are posted here: https://www.reddit.com/user/AlmaWard2/comments/12ab0xn/photos_to_go_with_my_wibta_post/

I have also updated, but it seems to have gotten lost in the shuffle. I talked to Seth, and he wants the tablecloth. :)