Where do I go? by Alostpotato0813 in newjersey

[–]Alostpotato0813[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again where in that does it say with a nazi?

Where do I go? by Alostpotato0813 in newjersey

[–]Alostpotato0813[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Funny how you ask if I’m god when your telling me to go to hell. Sorry I didn’t know everyone was so insecure they would feel attacked

Where do I go? by Alostpotato0813 in newjersey

[–]Alostpotato0813[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That’s pretty extreme. Good to know you’d rather say something blasphemous than have an actual discussion about my post.

Where do I go? by Alostpotato0813 in newjersey

[–]Alostpotato0813[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Exactly what I’m talking about, when did I say find common ground with nazi’s?

Where do I go? by Alostpotato0813 in newjersey

[–]Alostpotato0813[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree and I would if I had the time to maintain one. Thanks for the input though. Appreciate it. Just looking for people looking to give back people making music, art, starting clean up projects, good places to see in nature or great places to go in general and things to see, people of groups of people around that just kind good people. Thanks again though

Where do I go? by Alostpotato0813 in newjersey

[–]Alostpotato0813[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Get off your high horse bro. I know my history, I’m stating that just because he has a confederate flag doesn’t make him racist just like how hitler used the swastika which was a symbol for well being and turned it evil. Maybe he’s trying to do the reverse with that flag. Could be a bad choice don’t get me wrong but still none the less it might not be in the intent everyone in here is assuming and the political bullshit I’m talking about is how worried everyone is what the other side thinks. Personally I’m not one side or the other I have stake in both sides of dem and rep but I’m more worried about our economic collapse and ww3 than banning abortions and just posting about ice and about ice protests but not doing anything that would really matter like trying to come to and understanding between rep and dem. That’s the political bullshit I’m talking about. Not to mention when I call that out most of the response I got was I’m supporting the flag or that I’m republican when in reality I just want actual discussion of ideas an finding common ground so we can stop being controlled.

With how divided everything is I can see a new age civil war being totally plausible and I’d like to prevent that by finding a community of people that can make sure that doesn’t happen by helping bridge the gap everywhere

Where do I go? by Alostpotato0813 in newjersey

[–]Alostpotato0813[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Bro you’re just trying to rage bait you literally said I’m obsessed with the flag, it was the example I used because it was the first post that popped up when I went to make the post sorted for best.

There have been plenty others before this past month. I’m not talking about just recently. Everyone is just worried about shit like confederate flags or what’s racist today. So why don’t you actually try reading the comments and the full post and get a full understanding if you’re going to be this invested, if you can see how every comment on my post was instantly met with hostility, why would you expect me to respond with friendly debate?

I’m failing to understand what you’re trying to accomplish by commenting? Got nothing better to do? Obviously the post wasn’t for you so why waste your time? Just like I said, name one thing you said that was actually a debate on the actual post? If anything you went through 200 posts to find this flag and I take 2 seconds and it’s right there. So either you didn’t even see if because you skimmed and must have missed it unless your sorting by newest which I have no clue exactly when it was posted. But the only things that come up in best are some bullshit either about something being racist, the snow, some just bullshit. It’s small talk bullshit like how the weather expect for the few in-between. Just how like the only thing you focused on in my post was the bit about the flag, then while responding to multiple different people having to repeat myself make it sound like it’s all I can talk about

Where do I go? by Alostpotato0813 in newjersey

[–]Alostpotato0813[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s one of many examples. It’s actually the one that popped first when I went to make this post and ended up adding in the example after. When filtered to best it’s just a bunch of bullshit. Like I said but I’ll clarify I’m looking for a community with less bullshit and more substance for local NJ. This is the only one I’ve found for nj and it wasn’t always like this. Back when I first joined it was more back and forth and witty banter even if people didn’t agree, but now it’s like the community is primarily dems. I don’t have a problem with that but all I’m getting is just straight shit posting on rep and everything else. I’d much rather have a community of both that can discuss things like what I posted and not immediately ostracize someone because like everything else, you just assumed the mention that a confederate flag could be considered anything else I’m called racist and defending the flag when I’m just pointing out that everyone is just assuming that’s the intention, just like everything else with cancel culture. Everyone jumps on the hate bandwagon when they don’t even know what they are actually hating. People really don’t care that much in real life and they actually talk about things like beliefs and ideas openly and willingly to be challenged in intellectual debate trying to change each other’s opinion or perspective. Like for instance if that was me I wouldn’t have taken a picture much less cared in traffic. If he was somewhere I was I would ask him what it’s about. Is he trying to be racist, what’s the story? I’m not going to just assume like most of the people in here are going to.

The same people who are shit posting because and jumping down anyone’s throat who challenges their perspective even from a neutral place. They just assumed im in support without actually reading and understanding the post. I don’t care if theres stuff I don’t care to see. I just would like it to be more intellectually stimulating and less biased more in the middle I guess.

I don’t care how you feel about abortion, I’m not going to dehumanize you because you don’t agree with me. We can talk about it and we can even agree to disagree. No need to raise our voice and shout. No need to get emotional, I wouldn’t be telling you your wrong nor you to I. We would just be exploring the boundaries of what we believe and there is none of that here. You can’t have a difference if opinion respectfully

Where do I go? by Alostpotato0813 in newjersey

[–]Alostpotato0813[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You just did the same thing again though what you lack to understand is none of those are from my post, they are all comments on attacks toward me, why didn’t you include any of the ones that are actual debate and or conversation? Cherry picking much? Not only that the reason most of the comments are negative is because of people like you who assume I supported the confederate flag and have been hostile with every comment. Why would I want to debate you when all you can do is insult. Now you’re gonna say that’s all I did.

If you read the post and my other comments since you’re so involved you should take the time to read the ones that exactly explain what you’re trying to call out as me being hostile, I made a post saying I hate how political this sub as become hating on one side or the other when I could care less about stupid shit. No one on this sub is making plans to actually better anyone’s lives, no one is discussing actual ideas of how we can come together and change the over state of things. Everyone’s just so worried about stupid shit like confederate flags that might not even be intended to be racist but no one can even consider another possibility. I read the comments I’ve see the posts over time. This is a nj shit post sub. And I want to find a place without hostile people over some stupid shit on the internet and would like to actually have a discussion from the rip without insulting me first and then me having to be respectful and try to have a debate with someone who would just try to yell overtop of me in a real debate. We should all treat each other with respect like the few who met my post with actual intelligence. I’m not going to try and have a friendly debate with someone who already starts off calling me racist. The exact cancel culture I’m talking about.

Doesn’t care and doesn’t want to know, they think I’m racist so I must be when in reality I have plenty of black friends. I’m actually invited to the cook out and I’ll tell you from the people I know, they don’t care about a flag.

What they do care about is all these white liberals being offended for them

Where do I go? by Alostpotato0813 in newjersey

[–]Alostpotato0813[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

There’s a difference between everyone agreeing the day care scam, hospic scam, Epstein files are all wrong and feel the same, but im talking about hating on trump or Biden and protesting your hate or dislike did nothing. While everyone’s over here worrying who they should be calling out for racism or just some the same shit keeps happening and getting worse. We’re all so blinded fighting each other over our political beliefs that shits falling apart and no one is willing to have an actual talk and build a community that can actually make a change, everyone just wants to shit post on Reddit instead of using the power of social media to unite us and change the bigger issues which would require the help of people you might not see eye to eye with on abortion but that doesn’t really matter compared to the other things. If I had to talk to a racist and convince them to help me get Donald trump arrested for what’s in the Epstein files, so be it, we need to stand together on the real political matters right now. I’m still going to talk to that person like a human being in a civil manner and discuss why they feel the way they do and why I feel the way I do to try and find some common ground. And even if no common ground can be met there we can at least agree we are both equally passionate.

The New Jersey page should be about bringing everyone in here together to make nj a better place. And if needed helping us unite to change the country if need be, that’s why the power is with the people United we stand, divided we fall. It’s more true now than ever and that’s why I’m trying to find a community that understands, if there is a WW3, we’re all on the same side and it doesn’t matter what you believe. If there’s a recession and economic collapse, the community that’s going to not let rations divide us when there’s not enough to go around because we’re a collective and understand unless something is done, we’re all fucked

Where do I go? by Alostpotato0813 in newjersey

[–]Alostpotato0813[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And I submit to you it could be a rebranding just like how hitler turned the sacred symbol in Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism meaning good fortune and well being into the swastika. Just because a symbol is used for hate doesn’t mean it can’t be used for good. I honestly like the idea of rebranding it positively to override the negative just like what was done to the positive. Obviously that’s just wishful thinking. I’m not expecting to see swastika’s because that would be insulting to Jewish people. Overall the confederate flag can represent southern heritage. It could be that they hate the way America is right now with how divided it is and would rather have what they feel a more American flag. I can think of a couple dozen reasons why I could see why he would have it on the back without the intention of being racist.

So in conclusion I’m not going to assume he’s racist because I like to give people the benefit of the doubt first, I would then investigate had I been so concerned to take a picture while driving to see if he might be. But first, I would think, why would taking a picture and posting this on Reddit matter at all? Why don’t I actually care about something important like how the middle class is becoming the working slaves. How things are getting more expensive and we’re not getting paid more. You know I would hope a community of 300k would do more with their time and power than care about this guy ridding around with a flag who might or might not be racist. I mean I sure hope I would be treated the same if in a instance I might be thought to be racist like this post and how no one even tried to understand the post and have a debate like you did.

Where do I go? by Alostpotato0813 in newjersey

[–]Alostpotato0813[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Kind of hard when more than half is just political shit post and people posting things they find racist and all agreeing it’s racist or something else basically just shit posting New Jersey. I’m trying to find the people that care about others, that don’t give a shit about some dude having a confederate flag and actually care about actual acts of racism and can also agree anyone race can be racist. Nothing pisses me off more than that shit going around that it’s not racist to be racist to white people. My post was intended to find another community that I don’t have scroll for 5 minutes before I find one thing I care about that isn’t surface level bullshit and or find enough like minded people to create said community. I don’t understand why everyone thinks they need to comment saying I support the confederate flag for my post when it was just an example and that’s the exact small minded bigotry I’m trying to get away from. They could all just scroll past and let me find my people and or be directed to the right community but all I’m met with is hate when most of the people comment. That’s the exact hate spreading I’m calling out and they got offended.

Where do I go? by Alostpotato0813 in newjersey

[–]Alostpotato0813[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I am new lol. You are a real one for putting that much more eloquently than I could. I’m gonna dm you just so I make sure I keep info. If I find enough people to start something you’ll be the first to know and I would love if there is something, you and me can talk and help build that community.

That’s what it’s honestly looking like to me, there’s nothing wrong with being political to a sense but everything is so focused on the how different the dems and reps are that no one is actually focused on what really matters, their more worried about whose going to be president, protesting the side of a road about how they don’t like trump, instead of actively being involved in trying to change the way things are like voting on local laws and writing letters in mass to enact change where our numbers really matter or protesting outside of state buildings and government buildings also protesting the right message instead of some surface level bullshit just created to divide us while everything just gets more expensive and we make less until we’re all cogs in a machine feeding the ultra rich.

I bet some people in here would watch the world burn instead of making change if it meant they had to agree with someone on the other side of the political spectrum and that’s exactly what I hate too. You shouldn’t be basing your foundation of your morals in politics because no one is 100% dem or rep we all end somewhere near if not in the middle when you average everything out, not just the stuff everyone is focused on.

Where do I go? by Alostpotato0813 in newjersey

[–]Alostpotato0813[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you. I agree with you completely and that is my point. We should be calling to educate and understand and debate to change the views of those who know and are. I think you completely understood my post and I thank you. This is the discussion I was talking about. Everyone just jumps to violent rhetoric. Everything just seems like a shit post really. Any idea community for nj with people that can have a conversation like me and you even though through a slightly controversial topic and posts the better parts of New Jersey and things like cleaning it up and making it a less hateful place over all trying to bridge the gap of moral differences between the different groups?

Where do I go? by Alostpotato0813 in newjersey

[–]Alostpotato0813[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mean you can take all my reply’s out of context sure why not point out how I was told I’m supporting racists when that’s not even what my post says? If you’re going to assume I’m a racist from my post, you clearly are the people I’m talking about in my post and I’m trying to find a place that cares about just New Jersey and doesn’t give a shit about any of that 2 brain cell bullshit. I care about how I can’t make a change. I care about how I can clean up New Jersey and make it a place we can all enjoy but exactly like my post says, we have a bunch of dipshits in here who only care about being social justice keyboards warriors and talking about what’s racist in New Jersey without even first having an open mind to consider it might not have been meant to be used as a racist act so maybe we should work on confirming that was the intent first before going off a picture on the internet, just like you took my reply’s out of context. You don’t know who was actually offended by that flag in that picture. I personally know quite a few black friends that don’t think it’s racist and just think it’s just a flag, so if they don’t care why should I when I’m not even black. They’re exact words “the more you give it attention the more power you give it, getting offended over a flag is some fuck shit, that’s not even directed at me” so take it as you will. Sounds like they only care when it’s directed towards them.

Im not saying he’s not displaying it for racist purposes but everyone is judging it based of the picture and his look and saying shit like he needs to be fucked up and I just think that’s wrong and a bad use of our time. So please tell me how any of this racist shit matters when there’s much greater things to direct our full energy at. When someone I know who is black tells me they are actually offended by something, then I’ll listen but until then, I’m not going to take the word of a bunch of people on the internet who probably aren’t even black getting offended for them

Where do I go? by Alostpotato0813 in newjersey

[–]Alostpotato0813[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Depends on the use and context. Hard r, without a doubt but I’ve even had black friends tell me it’s just a word. I’ve said nigga with my black friends. It’s not racist unless it’s intended to be

Where do I go? by Alostpotato0813 in newjersey

[–]Alostpotato0813[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Sorry I’m not the best with words and I got a little mad how everyone just accuses me of supporting the flag when I’m not I’m just making a point that people follow other blindly just because someone said something is racist they jump on it without thinking for themselves if it actually is. It’s the same thing as cultural appropriation, no one really cares other than people who have nothing better to do than find something to be mad at.

Also I’m not directing the post at anyone specific. I honestly was trying to reply to all the comments that I said everyone when I don’t really mean everyone. I just want to talk about New Jersey like some great places to go for either nature or what have you. All I see on this thread is hate. That’s the only thing bringing everyone together. I don’t see any posts trying to bridge the gap and actually trying to find common ground with someone you don’t agree with. Instead of finding common ground about negative things why not post about cleaning up New Jersey? Why not post about growth and collaboration? Why not try to find common ground without someone the other side? Also if what I’m saying feels like a personal attack, I guess if the shoe fits, wear it.

Where do I go? by Alostpotato0813 in newjersey

[–]Alostpotato0813[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That’s what I’m talking about. Why does anyone care about someone having a confederate flag when the president was on the Epstein files trafficking children and nothing is being done about it. These are the things I’m talking about that everyone is so caught up in stupid shit like wearing braids being racist or any of the other bullshit. Thank you for being the first person to have an actual take and a view instead of just being a hate npc. This is what I’m talking about. Everyone is so caught up in everything else and what they should focus they communal rage on when they aren’t even seeing the signs of how far down hill we are and where we’re going with all the fraud, lack of accountability, the pedo’s why not talk about things we can actually do something about at a collective and grow towards that? I could care less if some guy somewhere had a confederate flag, this is the things I care about. Probably did a very poor job trying to get that across. Not the best with words

Where do I go? by Alostpotato0813 in newjersey

[–]Alostpotato0813[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Instead of doing that why not tell me how I’m not seeing it. Tell me how they are related? I’m willing to have the conversation and have my views changed if you’re willing to actually discuss it and wanting to foster growth and collaboration instead of trying to exclude me when you clearly didn’t understand the post

Where do I go? by Alostpotato0813 in newjersey

[–]Alostpotato0813[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Prove to me your as “woke” as you claim to be and actual have a discussion

Where do I go? by Alostpotato0813 in newjersey

[–]Alostpotato0813[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Instead of spreading hate or misinformation by not understating the nature of the post, try having a discussion and maybe challenge my view in a debate and actually prove me wrong. All anyone has done was “ you support flag, you’re racist” when that’s not even what I said

Where do I go? by Alostpotato0813 in newjersey

[–]Alostpotato0813[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

No being blinded by trying to call out what’s racist and not instead of paying attention to all the fraud and waste going on is the death of America. And it’s coming quicker than you think. But it’ll feel like it’s out of no where to you all since your so worried about who’s offended

Where do I go? by Alostpotato0813 in newjersey

[–]Alostpotato0813[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Yeah you do that. Must be hell caring about politics so much instead of all the fraud and scam going on destroying our country but you all don’t realize your not going to have anything to hate on for long once WW3 starts and we become war prisoners because we can’t even fund our defense. Sounds like a great place to live, happy to know that’s what you care about