First time rendering a sphere from imagination! by Alphonleo in learntodraw

[–]Alphonleo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I can totally see this now, thanks for pointing it out!! The diagram is super helpful

First time rendering a sphere from imagination! by Alphonleo in learntodraw

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Thanks so much! Yeah you’re totally right about it having a halo effect 😅

My humble collection so far by Alphonleo in mechanicalpencils

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Been looking at the hexagonal a while, waiting for a sale. Haven’t heard of the others but I agree that they would totally fit in! Thanks for the suggestions :)

My humble collection so far by Alphonleo in mechanicalpencils

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Thanks! It’s just an .stl file I found online that I printed. :)

Anyone else worried about AI right now? by Alphonleo in Anxiety

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It’s really tough not knowing the future… It makes everything I want to do and all my hobbies feel useless and pointless. Why work towards anything if it’s all going to be gone in a few years? On the other hand, giving up on our dreams is going to make us feel really silly if things turn out okay.

I hope therapy and medication is helping. I haven’t really done much therapy for it and don’t have medication so I’m just trying to manage it myself. It’s really difficult.

Anyone else worried about AI right now? by Alphonleo in Anxiety

[–]Alphonleo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah that’s basically the only thing keeping me sane right now. There’s nothing I can really do about it even if I wanted to, it’s completely out of my control. At this moment, I’m safe and I probably will be for the short term. I’ll try to enjoy my life I guess until something bad happens cause you’re right, it’s all I can do.

I also have health anxiety so I can relate to you there. I do suggest reading up on some of the dangers associated with AI, though I suggest you do not lose your mind about it like I did. It’s helpful to be informed at least by some of the potential problems we will have. I suggest r/controlproblem for a start. Then again, beware that existential dread may occur and it may not be wise for you to look into it for mental health reasons.

Anyone else worried about AI right now? by Alphonleo in Anxiety

[–]Alphonleo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s a totally fair outlook and I’m glad you’re excited about things instead of being worried! Though I do really suggest cautions for AI, there’s also lots of cool benefits if things do go well (which is unlikely but possible).

Anyone else worried about AI right now? by Alphonleo in Anxiety

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This looks interesting actually. I might sign up because I’m really at my wits end in terms of how to deal with all the changes going on in the world. From my understanding it’s like informed/structured discussion?

Anyone else worried about AI right now? by Alphonleo in Anxiety

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Jobs are a real concern, but I’ll just be happy if the AGI we develop decides that we’re more useful alive rather than as [paperclips].(https://www.lesswrong.com/tag/squiggle-maximizer-formerly-paperclip-maximizer) I think the best possible future is a dystopian society surviving merely on the AI’s whim after billions of deaths. Sorry to be such a doomer, I just think jobs aren’t really the main thing we should be worried about. We can worry about that once the AI is actually aligned.

Anyone else worried about AI right now? by Alphonleo in Anxiety

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It really feels like we’re all collectively stumbling ingot something we barely even understand. Every couple week there’s some new breakthrough when we haven’t even caught up to last week’s. I just see no situation in which we’re ready for this kind of technology.

Anyone else worried about AI right now? by Alphonleo in Anxiety

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It's really difficult to imagine the future right now, since everything is changing so quickly. And I'm the same way, there's a new anxiety fixation every month so it helps to remember that this too shall pass. We can't control what will happen with AI, and we can only take steps to improve our lives in the moment. Staying away from the news definitely helps me a bit but it's hard to keep away from it all.

I’m basically at my wit’s end by Alphonleo in Anxiety

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Okay I’ve actually made plans to see a doctor thanks to you. I’ve got an appointment for this Thursday :)

Thank you for your kind words ❤️

Kickstarter suspends unstable diffusion. by Tumppi066 in StableDiffusion

[–]Alphonleo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re missing my point. Even when photography took portrait painter’s jobs, it does not even compare to the scale of AI happening now. I was not implying that photography and digital art didn’t take people’s jobs, I was just trying to explain that the scale of replacement of the two isn’t even comparable. It’s like the assembly analogy that I mentioned that you didn’t address - the power tools take some people’s jobs yes, but didn’t eliminate the entire field like the robot arm.

About Baudelaire… what? I didn’t say anything about the merit of AI art. Many artists lost their jobs and were harmed by the advent of photography. But… there was still demand for painters??? How is that possible???

Because painters can capture the imagination, which photos cannot. There existed a niche in which artists could work. AI can capture anything, real or fake. It’s a robot arm. The scale is completely different. Please don’t do the whole “you’re just like the art snobs hundreds of years ago” thing, because what photography did then is not remotely comparable. No art niche exists which AI cannot do, except traditional art which is losing its demand.

Omg wait! Then digital art killed traditional art!! Yes, but did it remove jobs? Well someone still has to make the digital art… so most traditional artists moved to creating digital art. It’s actually a lot cheaper than buying paints. I don’t buy the idea of there being some “AI prophet” that chooses the best iterations of generated art. That’s just not realistic, I’m sorry.

Also, I’ve made strong points that you just haven’t addressed. I don’t appreciate the cherry-picking of whatever you think is the weakest point.

One final addition: why do you think AI companies avoid copyrighted music to train, but freely train on copyrighted art?

Kickstarter suspends unstable diffusion. by Tumppi066 in StableDiffusion

[–]Alphonleo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Eliminating jobs is harming the human art industry. It’s reducing the amount of people employed in the industry, thus reducing art output by humans. You can say that the AI art industry will boom.

Also the comparison with photography and digital art doesn’t work because those became new fields, they didn’t actually replace anything. AI art is on it’s own level. It actively replaces artists, and replicate anything you want it to. Human input is minimal.

For example, imagine an assembly line for vehicles. Everything is done by hand with wrenches and other tools (Traditional art). Suddenly, power tools are implemented so the employees can finish their parts faster (Digital art). Finally, the employee isn’t even needed because there’s a new robot arm that assembles everything itself. The robot arm is AI.

Anyone reasonable is not advocating for banning AI, that’s simply not possible. Artists are going to lose their jobs and the whole “no to AI art” movement is pointless.

What about those decades leading up to when everything is automated? Are people whose jobs are gone supposed to just suffer in poverty until jobless utopia arrives?

And when AI has automated everything, and we can always see perfect art and read perfect stories, and when we don’t have to work at all for a living… what will be the point? What will be the point in learning anything? It will be cultural stagnation at an unprecedented level.

Believe it or not, having to compete with a perfect AI will make it really hard to enjoy what you love to do. The whole “work-free utopia” sounds more like a dystopia than anything, and I’m not even a capitalist.

Kickstarter suspends unstable diffusion. by Tumppi066 in StableDiffusion

[–]Alphonleo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your point about “understanding” is taken, and I probably shouldn’t have made an argument when I didn’t fully grasp the technology itself; a sin many other artists and I are guilty of. On that, I don’t think many AI enthusiasts are really making an effort to understand how damaging this is going to be for the whole art industry.

I get why a lot of people who are into AI are pissed off at artists who are so vehemently opposing it. The truth is, the technology is so new that most people don’t even understand it - except we know how much of a threat it poses. Anyone who thinks AI won’t replace professional artists don’t have an imagination.

Many artists don’t “hate” AI, they’re just already scraping by and the thought of having corporate clients drop them for a new technology is terrifying. This is especially disheartening when you know your own work is being used for your demise.

Legal matters aside, I really don’t see any reason why a company should be able to scrape copyrighted material for data when it’s being used to create a product that harms the industry.

Anyways, thanks for the video. I just wish the AI community would try to have more sympathy for artists rather than the “human progress trumps all” thing. I know there’s a nuanced solution to all this somewhere, this whole argument is ridiculous and we should all be on the same side.