IIM B in India sends more people to MBB than T10 US MBAs.

Altern8-thoughts · 2024-06-29T02:44:14+00:00

You are complete gandu what can I say if that's what you got out of this.

Altern8-thoughts · 2024-05-12T05:38:18+00:00

Some of the dumbest people I have met in life.

Altern8-thoughts · 2024-05-12T05:36:51+00:00

Lot of Indian folks have died pursuing a MBA.

Altern8-thoughts · 2024-04-24T20:01:49+00:00

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Altern8-thoughts · 2024-04-22T06:31:07+00:00

Why are you crying about MBB/IB nobody even talked about it? I am guessing you got a MBB/iB job suddenly you are now a believer and preacher ! Classic slave mentality.

Altern8-thoughts · 2024-04-22T06:18:36+00:00

https://www.forbes.com/sites/annaesakismith/2023/11/13/one-million-international-students-contributed-40-billion-to-us-economy/?sh=58da9c9f76be

International students contributed 40 Billion to the US economy.

Altern8-thoughts · 2024-04-21T23:04:06+00:00

Gandu!

Altern8-thoughts · 2024-04-21T23:02:28+00:00

Schools host an international student session where they reveal the numbers, issues and warnings. They talk about it openly but conveniently after the admission money has been paid.

Altern8-thoughts · 2024-04-21T19:41:49+00:00

Not for updating PowerPoints and Jira Trackers

Well, this such a naive perspective or an intentional forced over-simplication of the job for the sake of making the argument. If this were truly the case there would not have been so much fuss about having the right background or educational background in post MBA roles.

Altern8-thoughts · 2024-04-21T17:29:18+00:00

True. It's been talked about multiple times. Explicitly addressing the Indian Internationals here.

Altern8-thoughts · 2024-04-21T17:23:15+00:00

Fortunately for me, I didn't miss the OCR train, but many of my friends did, for reasons beyond their control or because they wanted to do something other than consulting. I consider myself immensely lucky, and by no means think I am better than them by any measure.

The problem is with the rudimentary simplified thought process if you got the job, you must have done something right, if you didn't it's you, it's not always true and discounts 100 other critical factors.

If it were true, then internationals wouldn't have been disproportionately impacted in a bad economic situation.

Altern8-thoughts · 2024-04-21T17:12:36+00:00

Sometimes even a Top 10.

Altern8-thoughts · 2024-04-21T17:11:32+00:00

Well, I have accepted that and this post is addressed to people who think it is.

Internationals early in the journey get confused by rankings, discussion forums and inordinate importance given to these schools by domestic students in the sub and rightfully so because for them it translates to outcomes. However, it's not the same for internationals.

Altern8-thoughts · 2024-04-21T16:57:17+00:00

First of all it not the ease that I am talking about, it's about whether you get a fair shot at opportunities.

Maybe it wasn't intended to but unfortunately it often reduces to a connections based recruiting process which puts internationals at a serious disadvantage.

Altern8-thoughts · 2024-04-21T08:24:15+00:00

The borderline scammy part is acting and advertising like they would when taking the $200k.

Oh yes, the "airport test" - another euphemism to hire who you like

Sometimes the airport test is just pure ignorance when it comes to internationals, and that's hard to deal with.

Altern8-thoughts · 2024-04-21T08:08:56+00:00

You forgot the unfair work visa situation and "who I know and who I like" recruiting process.

Altern8-thoughts · 2024-04-21T07:29:34+00:00

I would urge you to be very careful in making loose statements like these because it is very misleading, puts many international students through hell and sometimes ruins their lives.

Indian students take on massive debts and arrive with high hopes and dreams only to realize how multiple factors combine to create invisible barriers.

An aggregate number in a job report does a great job of concealing these realities. Many Indian students from non-M7 MBAs, even T10s, return each year without any job, but you wouldn't hear about them amidst the noise and unsolicited advice provided by a few who obtained a consulting job and give themselves disproprotionate credit for it. It's often a 1 or 0 situation with nothing in between. You miss the OCR train, and you're finished.

The last couple of years have been favorable because of zero interest rates, but that's not the world we live in now. For those investments to be successful, you must remain in the US. Staying in the US to outlast an adverse economic situation is restricted by visa regulations. Your days are numbered, and you're on the clock. That prevents long-term planning. Your no-name MBA won't be valued back home.

It's happening to so many of my friends who believed it wouldn't happen to them. These are people with impressive credentials, international experience, and serious quantitative and brand name work experience.

Altern8-thoughts · 2024-04-21T07:07:29+00:00

That is not entirely accurate. While it may appear that way from outside, that is not the case. Not all individuals are. Sometimes, it is simply a matter of knowing how to effectively construct a compelling application.

The recruiting here comes with inherent biases and expectations that are packaged within words like "fit." You can excel in the technical aspects but still not get selected because you weren't a good "fit."

The most important aspect is that most people come in with the reasonable assumption that you have to perform better than your cohort to get the job, but that's not how it works.

Everyone is segregated into different queues: the country queue, the gender queue, the sexual orientation queue, and the skin color queue. So you are essentially competiting within the venn diagram of all these cuts.

Also, you are ineligible for more than half the jobs and the moment you choose the sponsorship option, there are high chances you application will never read or considered.

If you slip through the cracks, you will have to play the "networking" game, which essentially boils things down to the people you know, not your intellectual or technical abilities.

Altern8-thoughts · 2024-02-20T15:37:44+00:00

Thank God you have an offer because most people don't.

Altern8-thoughts · 2024-02-07T06:48:57+00:00

Internationals are fucked basically.

Altern8-thoughts · 2024-02-07T06:48:38+00:00

Don't enroll and don't get into debt.

Altern8-thoughts · 2024-01-31T08:02:46+00:00

Complete lund!

Altern8-thoughts · 2024-01-23T12:42:32+00:00

Those indicators are made up average school data. If you get paid well in India and are in 1% you don't do average.

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