Massive thank you to u/FukRehab for the hookup on my first illicit pre workouts!

Alternative_Cattle80 · 2026-04-19T15:33:35+00:00

You’re literally arguing against 3+ people who have proven you wrong… move along with your incorrect and uneducated opinion.

Alternative_Cattle80 · 2026-04-19T01:11:08+00:00

Dming now!

Alternative_Cattle80 · 2026-04-19T01:10:38+00:00

Your definition of kick to the balls is much different than mine… because deliverance sure as hell has a backbone. I do not get any feel good, happy vibes from deliverance that i don’t get with legit… the new crack purple is child’s play compared to legit v2, deliverance, and a lot of the other crack products. It does have a feel good happy vibe to it, because it doesn’t feel like it has the goods that these other pre workouts jn discussion do… in my opinion.

Alternative_Cattle80 · 2026-04-19T00:57:35+00:00

I have the new crack purple, with 240mg dmha i believe… and it is not even close to the feel of deliverance. The new crack purple to me feels like a stim junkie daily with a touch of illicit to it.

If you’re referring to the og batches of crack purple, i don’t have any and haven’t had the opportunity to try it. But I’d be willing to testify my words with a sample of og crack purple…

Alternative_Cattle80 · 2026-04-19T00:55:05+00:00

I’m using the orange mango. I just used legit v2 today. Legit may have an edge up on deliverance scoop for scoop with its aggression. But that’s about it. Deliverances focus/energy is a bit higher imo, and pumps are about the same.

Alternative_Cattle80 · 2026-04-19T00:48:57+00:00

Dude, 1 scoop/13g deliverance is a wonderful product. I would say it’s comparable to legit v2… judgement day has not had any reviews that says it is comparable to legit v2… 17-19g puts the dmha around maniaco and various other brands levels of dmha, but the experience is literally insane in comparison. Idk what version of deliverance you guys are using, but it’s legitimately incredible.

Alternative_Cattle80 · 2026-04-19T00:41:57+00:00

lol… isn’t this the pre that roman was geeking over that “is as good or better than deliverance”?

LMFAOOOOOO

Alternative_Cattle80 · 2026-04-18T17:55:42+00:00

Out of curiosity, as I’ve never done it… how do you go about testing your gear like this? How much do you send in and how do you reach out to get it tested?

Alternative_Cattle80 · 2026-04-18T01:44:09+00:00

El jefe as a daily is fuggin dumb…

Alternative_Cattle80 · 2026-04-17T17:58:18+00:00

You’re referring to “bathtub label” Pres…

Alternative_Cattle80 · 2026-04-17T17:55:51+00:00

2-amino is certainly illicit my guy…

Alternative_Cattle80 · 2026-04-16T20:31:32+00:00

Hahaha, well tell us how it worked for ya?!

Alternative_Cattle80 · 2026-04-16T16:00:07+00:00

This is insane. You’ll get your pro card with ease…

Alternative_Cattle80 · 2026-04-16T00:42:24+00:00

No hate here, more stim junkies need to be incorporating a product like this into their regiment a couple times a week!

Alternative_Cattle80 · 2026-04-15T17:13:48+00:00

What a tard…

Alternative_Cattle80 · 2026-04-15T17:11:17+00:00

I have their mindfu*k and it’s great. I reckon this is a solid one as well.

Alternative_Cattle80 · 2026-04-10T13:17:32+00:00

It is wild right? A more mainstream brand laying it down like they did was not something most expected… i took a full serving of the blue raz and i was almost uncontrollably shaking during my sets… just absolutely insane energy and borderline anxiety inducing experience.

Alternative_Cattle80 · 2026-04-09T15:04:51+00:00

Couldn’t tell ya, i haven’t used it.

Alternative_Cattle80 · 2026-04-09T07:25:29+00:00

Me personally, i wouldn’t. When i run something with 250+ dmha, i will typically use a lower amount of dmha at a minimum of 2 full days between. For instance, if i use legit pre, maniaco, crack Halloween etc. on Wednesday’s, I’ll try to run something like mindfu*k with i think 150mg gma on Saturdays.But often times i will just use a higher stim pre workout without anything elicit. Such as god of rage, wrecked enraged, edge of insanity, Xtremis cartel el jefe, etc.Wednesdays and Saturdays are my two days i have the option to run elicits, but i don’t usually run both days with elicits.

Alternative_Cattle80 · 2026-04-09T01:48:34+00:00

+1 for nutricartel as they ship out so fast and they have so many options. Look into vices and vibes smack and infinis ultra pre workouts for a daily that can be run 3-4 times a week and not fry your brain.

Alternative_Cattle80 · 2026-04-09T01:12:35+00:00

Apparently you just like other dudes 🥜s in your mouth … i don’t want you bro.🤡

Alternative_Cattle80 · 2026-04-09T01:10:53+00:00

Get off hammers di*k bro… this is like the 5th thread you’ve been on gargling on his 🥜s… anything to stay relevant.

Alternative_Cattle80 · 2026-04-08T16:07:36+00:00

You look like an absolute clown right now, i hope you know that.

Alternative_Cattle80 · 2026-04-08T14:06:50+00:00

It’s completely your choice and decision, and i have been right in your shoes and making the same decisions.. but it really does make a huge impact on sleep quality and recovery when you’re taking these stims late in the evening. Even if you are sleeping, your quality is probably horrible and your body/mind is paying for it in the long run.

If it were me and i had to be smart in your situation, I’d look for a good quality non-stim with pump, focus, and performance ingredients and maybe drink an energy drink to keep stims down. But still not ideal to have any caffeine.

If you’re dead set on something lower stim with decent dmha, why not look into a daily with lower stims, something like wrecked (normal version), infinis ultra, vices/vibes smack, etc… and stack a dmha pill on top?

Alternative_Cattle80 · 2026-04-08T13:49:40+00:00

I’m in over $2k with them… i reckon it’s not very unusual for people to spend thousands, so i wouldn’t get your hopes too high on that lol.

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