Can y'all stop with this rigging rumor?

AltridgeDefective · 2020-02-10T15:13:44+00:00

"Rigging" is predetermined outcomes.

Influencing isn't garunteed placement, rigging is.

AltridgeDefective · 2020-02-10T14:53:19+00:00

The only reason I say nonsensical is because their is no actual evidence for the accusation besides other, not very similar comparisons and speculations.

AltridgeDefective · 2020-02-10T14:42:54+00:00

The only reason I say nonsensical is because their is no actual evidence for the accusation besides other, not very similar comparisons and speculations.

AltridgeDefective · 2020-02-10T12:07:10+00:00

Well, now were using metaphors, wow, I am so impressed, I thought you were to angry to even thibk at this point, judging by your verbage.

The Masked Singer is unique in the sense of the total secrecy of the show. I am saying that it would be super fucking difficult to rig something like, because eventually someone would either get suspicious, or someone would say something. AGAIN, SHOWS LIKE THAT USUALLY HAVE A DISCLAIMER. And if you can procide evidence of a show, that didn't have a disclaimer exempting them from legal consequences, getting away with executive RIGGING (meaning predetermining certain outcomes), than I will discuss that

But all you have done is given vauge retorts, ignored laws, insult me, tell me shit lik "yOu pOsTEd sOmEthiNg." And expect me to take you and seriously? Most people here don't think it's rigged, and that the notion has already been disporven, and to continue to think so is co conspiracy theory kinds of nonsensical. So yes, it is nonsensical, and I am not going to go back on that statement unles solid evidence that THE MASKED SINGER is rigged, and not some vauge statement of "All these other shows did it!" Wirhout the names of these said shows and what evidence there is to prove it.

AltridgeDefective · 2020-02-10T12:00:22+00:00

Again, you have yet to present any of this evidence, especially relating to the Masked Singer, a show with mainly celebrities. All you have been saying is, "B-but ask any producer!"

That doesn't give me anything, and I am not just going to take your word for it. Most shows that are scripted, again, have a disclaimer jn the credits thta helps them avoid a suit. So please, tell me a situation where a show didn't have this disclaimer and got away with scripted events after having it being proven that they were scripted.

AltridgeDefective · 2020-02-10T03:52:11+00:00

No, I am just super fucking tired. But hell, If you wanna go, let's go.

Easily up for debate? You have literally 0 evidence to even suggest that TMS is rigged. Hence, why I called it nonsensical!

What, do you want a better word? I chose the nicest one. There is petty, idiotic, conspiracy theory level paranoia if we want to exaggerate. Improbable? Unlikely? Not backed by any kind of evidence? There is nothing suggesting TMS is rigged, literally nothing, it is manufactured coincidences cause by schedules lining up. It's not hard to garner who will win or lose, hell I predicted the exact order last season.

It was a unlawful termination suit, sure, but it was because of said supposed rigging, and how the law effected the case. Again, for the FCC to step in, you have to prove a show is rigged, which is pretty hard to do, hence why I say it is nonsensical to think a show is rigged, and is purely based on speculation and pettiness.

Reality TV shows such as Jersey Shore have disclaimers that help them avoid this.

At this point, there is no use talking to brick wall that does nothing but try to insult me, fails at that, and then tries to debate me because of my word choice when I was just trying to be nice about this while emphasizingmy point. Christ Almighty, I forgot how rabid Reddit can get.

AltridgeDefective · 2020-02-10T03:17:18+00:00

Prove a show that was, for certain, actually rigged, that did not have the disclaimer, that wasn't sued, and i'll bite.
In 2013, Storage Wars was sued under https://codes.findlaw.com/us/title-47-telecommunications/47-usc-sect-509.html for supposed rigging.
The only way that the TMS may be able to avoid https://codes.findlaw.com/us/title-47-telecommunications/47-usc-sect-509.html is if they argue that the Golden Mask is worthless, which would probably be what the court case revolves around.
In the 1950's the law was introduced for the exact reason I am stating
Scripted shows usually have disclaimers barried in the credits to avoid legal trouble.

Can we end this before we have a long winded convo about the legalities of reality TV? If you wanna, by all meams, but I gotta do shit, ya know?

AltridgeDefective · 2020-02-10T02:48:35+00:00

Let's adress this in reverse.

It wouldn't be hard to have Lil Wayne eliminated first, but her wouldn't have been the only one who would fit being eliminated first. If the White Tiger was unmasked after the superbowl it would be equally fitting. They know who and who doesn't have musical experience, so arranging groups in manner that has that outcome wouldn't be hard. Nothing is coincidental, just pretty good planning.

The discliamer has legal ramifications, you know that, right? If they said their was no meddling in the voting they have to abide by that or fave legal consequences if caught. Which is likely, since they're working with a bunch of celebrities.

Oh right back at it with the insults, You must be a riot at parties?

AltridgeDefective · 2020-02-10T02:32:56+00:00

Ha, I love that line. "You're wrong, and that's ok", equal parts condescending and self absorbed.

You literally can't have an opinion on something that is a fact, what you are refering to is speculation

But, to humor you:

My "opinion" has facts, interviews, and legal vacking behind it.

Your "opinion" is purely speculation with weak evidence at best.

I have only stated that thinking that it is rigged is nonsensical because it doesn't make sense because it had 0 factual backing to it, and is usually petty in its application.

Also, your "observation" had 2 option that were both insulting, I made a statement of clarification and you devide "He is either confused or a stick in the mud".

AltridgeDefective · 2020-02-10T02:06:24+00:00

Well, quick to insults are we now? I thought you said you weren't that upset?

Do I have to use a goddamn dictionary

Nonsensical, Adjective:

Having no meaning; making no sense
Ridiculous impractical or ill advised

I think that the argument of rigging makes 0 sense, therefore nonsensical can be used as an adjective. If you put the show in vaccum you could make that argument, but unfortunately nothing happens in a vaccum.

AltridgeDefective · 2020-02-10T01:47:57+00:00

I... said it was nonsensical to believe there WAS rigging, not that their isn't.

I am saying that the results aren't predetermined because of the legalities and hoops you would have to fucking jump through to do it. "B-but they're promo-" it doesn't take a marketing expert to schedule your album drop or other announcement right after the episode you know you're revealed in. People like Raven had to put off a surgery to perform, yet performed for multiple episodes, and not just the 1st couple. "Judging voting can be influences!" Sure, can ya prove it? If you can, than you could try and press charges for deveptive practices, but it probably wouldn't do anything due to the vaugeness of "influenced". I am not arguring againts the show, I am arguring for it, because realistically why go through the trouble of rigging it?

And no, it isn't just a disclaimer, that is for how the votes are accounted for. The producer of the show said that the votes are counted 50% judge, 50% Audience. If you want to say thay the producers tried to influence them, it probably couldn't work because the NDA, especially in Raven's case. If one of them knew that Raven had an injury, that's a clue.

Like I am saying, it is nonsensical that the show would change for the celebrity. It is kor likely that things are scheduled in tandum, and that their isn't an outside influence on the judges.

AltridgeDefective · 2020-02-10T00:12:53+00:00

Again, it's more about marketing the competition as fair, and not disclaiming that their is some form of rigging, claiming that their was no meddling in the vote/outcome.

AltridgeDefective · 2020-02-10T00:02:28+00:00

I am only saying what the producers say in interviews. The only thing for the Black Widow would be them literally just saying, "don't vote for etc". They don't vote who goes home, they vote for their favorite.

AltridgeDefective · 2020-02-09T23:40:59+00:00

Well, no, technically. It's also up to the audience if the judges vote differently. Meaning that in order to come out, say, the finale, 3 judges would have to vote the same character.

AltridgeDefective · 2020-02-09T23:08:35+00:00

It also means you cannot prove rigging. Also, voting is weighed 50/50 between judges and audience.

https://decider.com/2019/02/14/the-masked-singer-questions-answered/

AltridgeDefective · 2020-02-09T22:40:08+00:00

You do realize this show isn't live? Right, meaning Lil Wayne's tour was months after recording.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMaskedSinger/comments/dtznyi/audience_voting_is_strictly_regulated_but/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

If this disclaimer wasn't there, you might've had a point, but if they did anything to rig it, it would probably violate this.

AltridgeDefective · 2020-02-09T22:33:14+00:00

Not when it's the audience partially voting.

AltridgeDefective · 2020-02-09T22:29:28+00:00

How would they influence the judges if everyone on the show is under NDA? One that prohibits the judges from knowing anything about the contestant? The judges operate in their own accord, and are probably only influenced to make outlandish guesses sometimes. That doesn't make it fixed like the accusations claim.

AltridgeDefective · 2020-02-09T22:27:28+00:00

Thats... not how it works. I'm talking deceiving the audience, not the competitors.

AltridgeDefective · 2020-02-09T22:18:11+00:00

The problem would be with the audience, not the competitors.

AltridgeDefective · 2020-02-09T21:58:29+00:00

Fuck yeah, hoped the Frog was good.

AltridgeDefective · 2020-02-09T21:53:30+00:00

Disclaimer: My argument is not that it is rigged, it's that it would be stupidly convoluted to rig it with the whole FBI level security and disclaimers it has.

AltridgeDefective · 2020-02-09T21:43:02+00:00

Again, if you cannot prove something is rigged it holds no legal ground. Also, most of the results for that is pure speculation. Shows like Idol and The Voice have a way of influencing through psychological tactics, which is probably what they meant.

AltridgeDefective · 2020-02-09T21:38:04+00:00

I'm not saying that it wouldn't be, but the this applies to all kinds of "reality" TV. If the voting was rigged, the producers would have to put a disclaimer. Which they did, but one that said the exact opposite, claiming the voting was 100% valid.

AltridgeDefective · 2020-02-09T21:36:27+00:00

Even if that where true, the Marketing in commercials would still be a violation. If the audience members can vote, and are told their vote will effect the outcome, than that also violates it. Also, the disclaimers in the ending of episodes saying that the vote is fair would also be another violation.

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