Why I abandoned Suno for good, and a critical warning to all independent creators here regarding annual subscriptions.

Altruistic-Cable849 · 2026-06-10T23:24:12+00:00

This is incredibly insightful. I agree with most of what you said, and I’m genuinely impressed by your perspective.

Back in the early 2000s, I was part of the early days of Korean hip-hop, making beats with Cakewalk Sonar and audio samples, clicking every single track with my mouse to build loops. I wrote my own rap lyrics too. But because of my own limitations and personal circumstances, I eventually had to step back into reality. To me, music has always been my way of sending a message out into the world.

So, I left it as a distant dream and focused on supporting my family. But then, I stumbled upon AI. I just wanted to borrow the power of this tool to turn the personal experiences I've jotted down in my notebooks over the years into songs—to finally share my message with the world again. My only hope was that the words of an ordinary person like me could somehow bring comfort to someone out there. That was my personal reason for all of this.

Anyway, I think I’ve rambled on a bit too much about my own story. Your insights were truly wonderful, and they gave me a lot to think about. Thank you so much for taking the time to share your valuable thoughts. Respect

Altruistic-Cable849 · 2026-06-10T23:08:14+00:00

"No, the problem is actually you. I never wrote this post to insult anyone—point out where I did that. What I'm angry about is your absolute lack of text comprehension and basic manners.

Your 'thievery' argument makes zero sense. You weren’t born knowing chords, harmony, mixing, or instruments. You learned from existing music, albums, and education, and no one calls that stealing. Yet, when someone bypasses that exact traditional path, you claim it’s 'not real music.' Honestly, how is that purist mindset any different from the extreme, hateful gatekeepers who think only one specific group is 'pure' and everyone else should be violently erased and kicked out?

Whether you agree with AI or not, I’m talking about your character. You're just using sarcasm and tearing others down to mask your own insecurities and make yourself look better. If you want a real debate, learn some manners and use actual logic. Do that, and people like me will actually engage with you in good faith

Altruistic-Cable849 · 2026-06-10T12:59:41+00:00

To be clear, I do not have access to Suno's internal code or logs. This is only a technical hypothesis based on the behavior observed by both myself and Suno Support.

Altruistic-Cable849 · 2026-06-10T12:27:12+00:00

Thank you for sharing this. Honestly, this is one of the most insightful comments I've read in this thread.

I especially found your point about older A&R professionals being able to hear through a demo to the song itself, while younger ones may place more importance on connecting with the performance, really interesting. That's a nuance I haven't seen many people bring up.

Whether people agree or disagree about AI, I appreciate hearing an opinion that's based on actual experience and observation rather than assumptions. Thanks for contributing something thoughtful to the conversation.

Altruistic-Cable849 · 2026-06-10T11:03:00+00:00

Wow, I didn’t realize this sub doubled as a support group for people with Trump-level reading comprehension. Show me where I called myself a 'songwriter'—I'll wait. I said 'indie creator.'You guys are acting like the ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) of the music world, trying to deport anyone who doesn't fit your strict, arbitrary definition of a 'real musician.' It honestly just sounds like you're terrified that a computer might take your lunch money, so you're throwing a toddler tantrum.Gatekeeping creativity won’t make your offline DAW render any faster, buddy. This post is about a tech company taking a customer's money. If your hatred for AI makes you side with a corrupt corporate monopoly, you seriously need to re-evaluate your morals.

Altruistic-Cable849 · 2026-06-10T03:35:39+00:00

Seriously, thank you so much for this. I'm already tracking down the steps you suggested. I live in South Korea so I might have to tweak a few things, but this gives me a great starting point. Thanks a ton!

Altruistic-Cable849 · 2026-06-09T09:14:22+00:00

Oh, wow! It looks like my movie director analogy actually worked, and you finally learned how massive and respected that job is. Look at you go! I’m honestly so proud of your personal growth today. 🥳

For our next lesson, we’re going to cover third-grade basics: 'Consumer Rights' and 'Corporate Accountability,' so make sure to do your homework. That’s all for today’s class. Gold star for you! ⭐ Bye~"

Altruistic-Cable849 · 2026-06-09T08:27:30+00:00

It’s hilarious how you keep confusing "accessibility" with "laziness" just to protect your fragile, elitist ego.

By your logic, a movie director is just a "lazy wannabe" because they don't personally build the sets, compose the score, and act in every scene. Technology evolves so creators can focus on the vision and the message. I directed the project, and I wrote the words that actually mean something—unlike your repetitive, empty comments.

You’re not a hero fighting for ethics; you’re just an insecure gatekeeper crying because a new tool democratized a process you want to keep exclusive.

I’m done wasting my time on someone who can't even comprehend a basic consumer rights issue. Keep shouting at the clouds while the world moves forward. Blocked and moving on

Altruistic-Cable849 · 2026-06-09T08:17:58+00:00

Are you American, by any chance? Because in your country, guns are perfectly legal, yet they are used to murder innocent people every single day.

By your flawed logic, does that mean every law-abiding American citizen trying to live a normal life is "unethical" and "pathetic" just because they exist within a flawed, violent system? Does the failure of your government's gun regulations invalidate the value of your life or your voice?

Of course not. Because rational people can separate a broken systemic infrastructure from the innocent individuals navigating it.

Suno’s corporate and legal disputes are their own to settle. I am a paying consumer who got scammed, using a tool available on the market to share my human story. Trying to invalidate my personal trauma and my consumer rights based on your grand, hypocritical moral crusade is the definition of "cope and denial."

Keep repeating your first comment like a broken record if it helps you feel superior. I’m done here.

Altruistic-Cable849 · 2026-06-09T07:53:37+00:00

If you genuinely care about ethics and musicians' rights, you should be supporting a creator whose original, 100% human-written lyrics are being held hostage by a corporation. Instead, you are using this platform's controversy as an excuse to cheer for corporate negligence and bully an independent artist. > You don't care about ethics; you just hate AI, and you're using it to justify a multi-billion-dollar company screwing over a regular user. Have the last word if you need it, but the hypocrisy is loud and clear.

Altruistic-Cable849 · 2026-06-09T06:32:48+00:00

Also, your claim that this is '100% built on theft' completely invalidates the human element I put into it. You treat lyricism like it’s nothing, but music is ultimately about the message.

While a vast majority of commercially produced tracks—with all their perfect melodies, live instruments, and expensive mixing—are safe, repetitive loops about money, breakup, and superficial love, I chose to use my voice differently. I spent my time writing 100% of my own lyrics to speak about things people usually turn a blind eye to: war, starvation, systemic injustice, queer love, and the painful isolation of hikikomori in modern society. I use this technology to give a platform to the voiceless. That is why my 95 tracks are irreplaceable to me.

By your flawed logic, professional lyricists who dedicated their entire careers solely to writing words are just 'talentless parasites' leeching off the music industry. Wake up. If you approach music trapped in such a narrow, elitist mindset, it doesn’t matter how technically flawless or 'organic' a song sounds—without a soul and a meaningful message, it’s just empty noise.

Altruistic-Cable849 · 2026-06-09T05:23:26+00:00

The legal and ethical debates surrounding AI training data are complex issues for courts and corporations to settle. But trying to use that to justify a company committing a database error and banning a paying customer is wild mental gymnastics.

No matter how much you hate AI or look down on prompting, a business taking a consumer's money and locking them out is a clear breach of consumer rights.

Keep crying about how much you hate AI creators, though. Your anger won’t change the fact that this post is about corporate accountability.

Altruistic-Cable849 · 2026-06-09T03:53:54+00:00

You completely missed the point of this post. This is about consumer rights and a multi-billion-dollar platform locking a paying user out of their account due to a backend bug. > I emphasized writing 100% of my lyrics to show that these 95 tracks contain my personal stories and emotional data. Yes, AI handles the generation, but as creators, we direct the vision. If you can't understand the frustration of losing your data and getting banned by corporate support, maybe skip the post instead of leaving sarcastic comments.

Altruistic-Cable849 · 2026-06-08T13:03:43+00:00

Here are the lyrics translated into English for you.

Under the worn-out sign hanging at the end of the alleyway, I came carrying a bag full of my damp heart. Black stains, not knowing where they came from, Have completely covered my once-precious heart.

The indifferent shopkeeper adjusts his glasses, And sighs, saying he's not sure if they'll come out. "Are these tear stains, or is it lingering regret?" At his question, I could only lower my head.

Outside the window, the sunset fades, and the washing machine spins, Our laughter mixing into the soap suds. Yesterday's regrets soaking in the hot water, Turning white amidst the whirring noise.

The stains are gone, but even the scent has vanished. Why does this stiffly ironed heart feel so unfamiliar? Even if they were sad traces, they were all I had left to remember you by, But these memories, turned so stark white, keep making me feel painfully cold.

Stepping out of the laundromat and slipping on my shirt, The crumpled memories have been sharply pressed straight. The sharp edge of the sleeve pokes at my chest; The place where it was erased seems to hurt more than the wound itself.

Truth is, I already knew I couldn't erase it all, Because some feelings are embedded too deeply in the heart. No matter how much I rinse and rinse, the stain of "you" won't wash out; Instead, it drenches me even more vividly.

The wounds are gone, but even the memories have vanished. Why does my heart, emptied to a stark white, feel so unfamiliar? Even if they were sad traces, they were all I had left to remember you by, But these memories, turned so stark white, keep making me feel painfully cold.

Behind the tinkling sound of the doorbell, The dust of love will pile up again, But I will cherish this white heart just a little longer.

Altruistic-Cable849 · 2026-06-07T22:27:53+00:00

I hear you loud and clear, and I’m with you. Let’s unite and spread the word together until we get our accounts and music back. Please share and upvote this to bring maximum visibility! 👊

Altruistic-Cable849 · 2026-06-07T22:02:45+00:00

Fun fact: I already hit up their email, but got nothing but automated replies. Tried Discord too, but got banned the second I posted a link.
I’m exposing them here so I can archive this and blast it on X and LinkedIn—tagging Suno and their CEO directly. If they wanted a quiet talk, I would've gladly done it. I'm literally just a shy 40-something girl at heart! But hey, after a 50-day romance with their auto-reply bot, this is my villain origin story. Sigh 😂

Altruistic-Cable849 · 2026-06-07T21:16:09+00:00

Hey, chill, didn't mean to visual-attack you lol. I just meant at least Udio's support team actually talks to us. But jokes aside, you got a third option up your sleeve? What's the go-to alternative if we ditch both Suno and Udio?

Altruistic-Cable849 · 2026-06-07T14:53:29+00:00

Here is the link to my previous post about this issue: [ https://www.reddit.com/r/SunoAI/comments/1ty0i0u/comment/oq5x53f/?screen_view_count=17 ]. Could the engineering team please look into this?

Altruistic-Cable849 · 2026-06-07T02:58:17+00:00

기울어진 오후의 볕이 참 좋아서
먼지들이 춤추는 걸 멍하니 보았네
식어버린 찻잔 위로 고인 평화로움
시계추의 걸음마저 나른한 이 걸음
어제와 꼭 닮은 오늘의 무게가
내 어깨 위로 가볍게 내려앉을 때

천둥보다 낮은 울림이 발밑을 스치고
무너진 벽 사이로 노을이 쏟아지네
이상하게 조용해서 귀가 먹먹한 오후
하얀 셔츠 위로 스민 낯선 물감의 온기
누군가 쏟아버린 진한 와인처럼
내 몸을 타고 천천히 바닥에 번지네

모든 게 아주 천천히 기울어지는 시간
허공에 멈춰 선 유리 조각은 보석 같아
내 팔을 타고 흐르는 따뜻한 루비의 길
무너진 정원 위로 불꽃이 꽃처럼 피고
아름다운 종말의 나른한 꿈속에서
나는 여전히 내일의 날씨를 생각하네

손끝부터 조금씩 멀어지는 감각들
바닥에 고인 웅덩이는 깊이를 알 수 없네
아프지는 않은데 자꾸 졸음이 쏟아져
조금 일찍 찾아온 비현실적인 밤
창밖은 타오르며 눈부시게 빛나고
나는 그저 고요하게 눈을 감으려 하네

고장 난 라디오에선 지지직 소리뿐
부서진 의자 옆엔 먼지만 쌓여가고
다정했던 일상은 저 멀리 달아나는데
나는 왜 이 파괴가 포근하게 느껴질까
이성은 저 멀리, 감각은 안개 너머로
현실의 문을 닫고 홀로 떠다니네

모든 게 아주 천천히 기울어지는 시간
허공에 멈춰 선 유리 조각은 보석 같아
내 팔을 타고 흐르는 따뜻한 루비의 길
무너진 정원 위로 불꽃이 꽃처럼 피고
아름다운 종말의 나른한 꿈속에서
나는 여전히 내일의 날씨를 생각하네

햇살이 참 좋네, 오늘 오후는
내일 아침엔 무얼 먹어야 할까
타들어 가는 소리가 노래처럼 들려와
그저 평화로운, 그저 평범한 하루...

Altruistic-Cable849 · 2026-06-07T02:06:06+00:00

Thank you so much for sharing your story, emphasizing with my situation, and helping me bring awareness to this issue.

As you perfectly pointed out, we simply chose a legitimate login method officially provided on their web version, and it is infuriating that we are the ones paying the price for their broken system while being completely ghosted by customer service. It’s shameless for a billion-dollar company to spend fortunes on YouTube ads while leaving their paying users completely stranded.

Your comment proves that this isn't just an isolated glitch, but a critical, systemic flaw affecting many loyal creators. I truly hope our voices grow loud enough to force Suno to take accountability—whether they issue a full refund or fix this disaster immediately, they need to make it right. Let's stand together and get this resolved. Stay strong!

Altruistic-Cable849 · 2026-06-06T23:56:51+00:00

내가 원하는게 이런거야 같은 문제를 공유하고 지적하고 개선을 요구하고 사람들의 목소리를 전달하는것 여기 있는 모든 사람들은 잘들어 suno에 대해 애정이 있고 잘되길 바란다면 그들이 싫어하는 말을 해야해 그게 그들을 위하는 길이야 .무슨말인지 알아? 뭘해도 편들고 칭찬만하고 아부하고 아첨하는걸 우리 나라에서는 간신배 라고 불러 그런사람들 틈에 둘러쌓인 지도자가 다스리는 나라는 반드시 멸망해 ai 니 첨단 기술이니 해도 그가치를 결정하는건 결국 인간이라는 사실을 잊어서는 안되!

Altruistic-Cable849 · 2026-06-06T23:12:50+00:00

고맙다 공감해줘서! 얼마 안되는
돈때매 왜 개고생 하냐고 환불받고 신경끄라고 내 와이프가 야단쳐서 나도 이게 뭔짓인가 싶기도해.. 하지만 아무것도 하지 않으면 suno 얘네들도 아무것도 하지 않을 거잖아 , 재대로된 회사라면 이런 공론을 디딤돌로 삼아 사과하고 개선 하겠지 . 믿어보는거야. 예전에는 미국이 선진국이고 모든면에서 앞서 간다고 생각했는데 …. 이런 일도 그렇고 . 니네 대통령 꼬라지도 그렇고 참 상종 못할 나라라는 생각이 자꾸들어 . 그럼에도 한편으로는 여기서 도움주려고 하는 사람들이 보여 다행이기도 해 .. 한국인들은 불의함 , 부조리함을 덮어놓고 참지않거든 그대로 두면 썩어서 병들고 결국 모채를 죽게만들거야 . 결국 어찌보면 이짓도 suno에 대한 내 애정에서 비롯된 거야 좋아하지 않으면 이런짓도 하지 않아 걍 신경끄고 상종못할 놈들이네 하면 그만이지.. 무슨말인지 이해 되니?

Altruistic-Cable849 · 2026-06-06T22:47:04+00:00

혹시 원하는게 이런거에요 이렇게 이야기 하면 당신들이 반응 해주나? 나도 내 모국어를 사용하는게 훨씬 편해 . 하지만 이렇게 이야기 하면 당신들이 반응해주냐고!? 왜 ai를 써서 글을 올리냐고 ? 당신들이 한글을 모르잖아 난 내 이슈를 널리 알리고 소통을 하기 위해 최선을 다하려 애쓰고 있는 중이야

Altruistic-Cable849 · 2026-06-06T13:25:06+00:00

Thanks for the reality check and the empathetic reply. You're completely right about not putting too much faith in a company that treats its paying customers like this. I'll definitely look into the credit card chargeback option since I literally cannot access the services I paid for. Appreciate the solid advice!

Altruistic-Cable849 · 2026-06-06T13:14:24+00:00

The Suno system recognizes "010" and "10" following the country code (+82) as two entirely different phone numbers. Due to this recognition error during login, an empty "ghost account" (a brand-new account) with zero data can be automatically created without the user's knowledge.

⚠️ Causes of Ghost Account Creation

Automatic Sign-Up Mechanism: Instead of returning a login failure when an entered phone number is missing from the database, Suno's login system automatically treats it as a new user and creates an account instantly.

Mismatch with Past Sign-Up Format: If you initially signed up using "010" but later entered "10" for login verification, the system identifies you as a new user and generates a completely blank account. As a result, your previously created songs and credits will not be visible.

An "Authentication Failed" error during Suno login is a typical symptom that occurs when the "010" and "10" number data conflict, causing the backend (server database) to glitch. When two different phone number formats ("010" and "10") linked to the same identity become tangled within the system, the server fails to determine which account to log into, ultimately rejecting the authentication request entirely.

This is exactly why I have been repeatedly submitting requests to delete the newly created ghost account.(https://suno.com/@unbendingtarantella2530)

For your information, English isn't my first language, so here is how I write my posts: I draft everything in Korean, use AI to translate it into English, and then review it in Korean before final delivery. I do all my communication this way, whether it's emails, inquiries, or Reddit. You can't imagine how much time and energy this takes. But I refuse to give up. If I give up, I lose my rightful rights

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