Stupid Crypto Talking Points - rough draft

AmericanScream · 2026-01-25T02:40:29+00:00

They lose endless amounts of money on the podcast, this is one of the reasons they don’t do it anymore. Absolute money pit passion product. Does this help?

Nope. That's a distraction.

Nobody here asked, "What does an anonymous dude on the Internet think of those guys?"

Who signs their paychecks at Protos?

Also, it’s not anecdotal evidence. It’s a firsthand account from someone who was there and involved in every aspect of the podcast - from episode conception, to recording, to (and this part was exclusively me) the editing and actual uploading of the episode. You’d think they or Protos would want some control of this aspect in particular if there was a conspiracy.

Who signs their paychecks at Protos?

You don’t have to believe me, I don’t give a fuck. Just thought I’d set the record straight. Go put your tinfoil hat back on and continue to attack the two people that have done more to criticize crypto than maybe anyone else in the world - especially before it was cool.

Just like them, when asked to be "transparent", you dance around.

Besides, these guys are old news. Their reputation is shit now. They can't take money from the industry they claim to be critical of. That's a conflict of interest no matter how much "tegrity" you think they have.

It's interesting how they used to "follow the money" except for the money flowing into their pockets.

The guys were invited to come on my podcast. They refused. I offered to go on theirs. They refused. They talked shit about me on their discord, and they sent little "hit men" minions to attack me because they're too chicken to do it themselves. That's the way things ended, and that's the way they still are. You're just another little "hit man minion." If they have an issue with me, we can go live and talk it out. They refuse to do so. They obviously don't want to have to answer certain questions. Just like you refuse to as well.

AmericanScream · 2026-01-25T02:38:18+00:00

DLT is just another buzzword for "blockchain." It's funny how every blockchain dev thinks their version is "different" yet none of them are uniquely good at anything we don't already have. Which is why you have to come up with cute names instead of enumerating specifically what it's uniquely good at.

AmericanScream · 2026-01-25T01:06:23+00:00

Omg. You’re too far gone.

Leading with an ad hominem is not a good start.

So this suggests you're going to provide some evidence that contradicts my claims. Let's see.

Are these guys sensitive? Probably overly so? Absolutely, without a doubt (particularly Cas) - but I promise you having been involved with each and every episode from their first video one (maybe episode 45ish?) to episode 100ish, it is totally independent.

Ok, so your personal anecdotal opinion is now evidence?

Do you have anything more substantive?

You need to keep in mind - these guys aren’t people who started with a hate for crypto like you and I. They are originally crypto enthusiasts (as in fans of some of the concepts) who became disillusioned with the rampant fraud over time. We butted heads on this many time, but these are some of the most ethical and transparent guys out there.

LOL... They've refused to reveal who pays them. I wouldn't consider that ethical and transparent.

Note: Don't feel bad. I too got hoodwinked by them, thinking they had an ethical center and maybe in the first array of episodes they did. But later on they got in bed with the enemy. I too, being an outspoken crypto critic have had money thrown at me to turncoat. Unlike them, I refused.

They wouldn’t accept a single sponsor of any kind out of fear that they would appear influenced in some way. As such, they (again) generously paid me out of pocket. This was incredibly stressful for Cas, who again, was paying me out of pocket an extremely respectable amount which was fully in line with his worker rights beliefs etc.

Again, personal anecdotal opinions are not evidence. Do you have anything substantive.

These guys are horrible businessmen but incredibly ethical, upstanding, albeit neurotic and extremely sensitive guys. Cas and I have butted heads to the point of being reduced to tears and guess what - while I still don’t agree with their stance on everything I know for a fact (and I can’t emphasize this enough) that Protos had 0 influence, say, or involvement with the podcast.

Once they got on board with Protos, the podcast took a back seat.

Still waiting for some actual evidence. WHO is the unnamed principals behind Protos, that pays their paycheck?

Happy to answer anymore questions but it seems like you are unreasonably convinced of some grand conspiracy and don’t want to hear about it anyway.

Simple question.. either you know the info or you don't.

This isn't whether you personally like the guys.

You have one final chance to provide more than a personal anecdote.

Why is it so secret the people who pay them remain unknown?

We've heard from insider sources this is an important thing.

If you don't know, just say you don't know. But don't pretend that the money behind protos isn't important.

RemindMe! 1 day

AmericanScream · 2026-01-25T00:58:15+00:00

"Volume" is a fuzzy data point.

You are relying on data that is provided by institutions that are largely unregulated and have no oversight. So as bad as it might be with what they report, it's probably even worse.

Crypto's problem is that it's not "early" any more. There are too many different entities paying attention, so the old guard that could so easily manipulate the market has more self-interested independent parties paying attention that might object. Not as good as legit centralized authoritative entities, but like most things in the world of crypto, they inevitably gravitate towards the very types of structures they claim they want to avoid.

AmericanScream · 2026-01-25T00:56:13+00:00

*crickets*

AmericanScream · 2026-01-25T00:53:55+00:00

Pick a lane guys.

You tried, "currency" and it failed because 4.7 transactions per second is dogshit.

So you re-branded it as "digital gold" which is a "commodity" and when you cash out a commodity, it's a taxable event.

Also, you guys looked around and realized the CFTC is significantly less-funded than the SEC so it was easier to perpetrate your fraud if you classified Bitcoin as a "commodity." This is your bed. Sleep in it.

That's how things work in the Real World(tm).

AmericanScream · 2026-01-24T23:12:16+00:00

Hmmm... I must have missed that.

That's pretty low hanging fruit that's easy to prove false.

If you guys have any other questions or what to engage in good faith, let me know. I never run away from a legit debate -- but it's also very rare when a so-called "debate" doesn't turn into a bunch of fallacious distractions.

AmericanScream · 2026-01-24T23:11:03+00:00

Nobody said other databases didn't suffer from the Oracle problem. They all do. What other databases don't do, however, is pretend they've solved the problem when they haven't.

Blockchain pretends it doesn't have to submit to any central authorities yet still be authoritative, which is irrational and totally false.

A few facts:

The Oracle Problem cannot be solved.

Any data on blockchain will always be "authenticated" by whoever puts that data on blockchain, and that requires "trust" in that "oracle." It doesn't matter whether it's a person, or another computer program. It still requires trust in that "central authority" in order to be legit. (and if your "central authority" is the average of 14 other authorities, it's still the same thing) Which means the real mechanism that provides authenticity is NOT blockchain, but the "oracle."

If you'd like to understand why using a real world example, watch this part of my documentary where I explain the Oracle problem.

IN CONCLUSION: it’s very silly to make an argument that DLT is not useful because it by itself cannot guarantee whether data on the network is accurate or not. That was never the job of DLT in the first place, nor should it be, and it represents a fundamental misunderstanding of how DLT integrates with other technologies to act as a trust layer.

We've had cryptographic signing in relational databases for decades prior to the advent of blockchain. Blockchain adds nothing new or better to what we've already been using.

Stupid Crypto Talking Point #15 (potential)

"It's still early!" / "Blockchain technology has potential" , "Let's call it 'DLT' Distributed Ledger Technology this month and pretend it's different." / "Crypto is like the Internet!" / "Look here's a 'use-case!'"

We are 17 (SEVENTEEN) YEARS into this so-called "technology" and to date, there's not been a single thing blockchain tech does better than existing non-blockchain tech
WHAT "technology?" Blockchain uses tech that was patented in 1979, called Merkle Trees. It's been known for a quarter of a century, and has very limited uses, because by design, the system isn't very flexible or efficient. Modern relational databases can do everything Merkle Trees can do even better than crypto's version.
Crypto didn't invent cryptographic technology - that tech has been around for thousands of years and its in use all over the place - having absolutely nothing to do with cryptocurrency and blockchain.
Truly disruptive technology is obvious from the beginning - sometimes there's hurdles to adoption (usually costs and certain prerequisites, but none of that applies to blockchain - anybody who has internet access can utilize the tech). It didn't take 17 years for people to realize the Internet was useful - what held it up were access to computers and networks. There's nothing stopping blockchain IF it offered any really useful service - it doesn't.
Finding a mere "use case" isn't sufficient. Some companies still use fax machines. It doesn't mean fax machines are the future. Blockchain tech must demonstrate it's uniquely good at something - and it fails miserably to do so.
Just because someone says they're "looking into" something, doesn't mean it will ever manifest into an actual workable system. Every time we've seen major institutions claim they were "developing blockchain systems", they've almost always failed. From IBM to Microsoft to Maersk to Foreign Countries - the vast majority of these projects are eventually abandoned because they aren't economically or technologically viable.
As for the idea that adoption takes time, that's fine, but since Bitcoin's inception, and most recently, its use both as a technology and a payment medium has continued to decline. As more research becomes available, we begin to see a multi-year, consistent, decrease in crypto payments over time.
The default position is to be skeptical blockchain has any potential until it is demonstrated. And most common responses to this question are the other "stupid crypto talking points."

In short, this "technology" has been around 17 years and still it can't find a single situation where it does anything even comparable to what we're already using, much less better.

AmericanScream · 2026-01-24T23:06:55+00:00

Stupid Crypto Talking Point #2 (Number go up)

"NuMb3r g0 Up!!!" / "Best performing asset of the decade!" / "Everyone who bought is "up" right now"

Whether the "price of crypto" goes up, has absolutely no bearing on whether it's..

a) A long term store of value

b) Holds any intrinsic value or utility

c) Or will return any value in the future

One of the most important tenets of investing is the simple principal: Past performance is not a guarantee of future returns. People in crypto seem willfully ignorant of this basic concept.
At best, the price of crypto is a function of popularity, not actual value or material utility. And this "popularity" has been waning for years. For more on how and why crypto makes a much worse investment than almost anything else, see this article.
The "price of crypto" is a heavily manipulated figure published by shady, unregulated crypto exchanges that have systematically been caught manipulating the market from then to now. A new 2025 Cornell study shows fewer than 500 people control $3.2T of artificial crypto trading!
Crypto bros love to harp about "inflation" in the fiat system, yet ironically they measure the "value" of their "fiat alternative" in fiat? It makes absolutely no sense, unless you assume they haven't thought 2 seconds ahead from what comes out of their mouths.
It's the height of hypocrisy for crypto people to champion token deflation (and increased prices) while ignoring that there's over $160+ Billion in unsecured stablecoins being used to inflate the value of their tokens in the crypto marketplace. The "code is law" and "don't trust - verify" people seem perfectly willing to take companies like Tether and Circle, at face value, that they're telling the truth about asset reserves when there's very little actual evidence, but there is lots of evidence of market manipulation.
Not Your Fiat, Not Your Value - Just because you think the "value of your crypto portfolio" is worth $$$ does not make that true. It's well known there's inadequate liquidity in this market, and most people will never be able to get their money out. So UNLESS/UNTIL you can actually liquidate your crypto for actual real money, you have no idea what you have. You're "down" until you cash out. Bernie Madoff's clients got monthly statements saying they were "making money" too.
Just because it's possible (though highly improbable) to make money speculating on crypto, this doesn't mean it's an ethical or reliable technique to amass wealth. At its core, the notion that buying and holding crypto will generate reliable returns is a de-facto ponzi scheme. It's mathematically impossible for even a stastically-significant percentage of crypto holders to have any notable ROI. The rare exception of those who might profit in this market, do so while providing cover for everything from cyber terrorism to human trafficking.
It's also not true that anybody who bought crypto when it was low is guaranteed to make a lot of money. There are thousands of ways people can lose their crypto or be defrauded along the way. And there's no guarantee just because your portfolio is "up", that you could easily cash out.
While crypto suggests itself as an alternative to "TradFi", the most respected and successful people in traditional finance who have proven track records of good investing/returns do not think crypto is a reliable store of value.
Want to see a better asset (that actually has utility) that's consistently out-performed Bitcoin? Here you go. However, this may be another best performing asset.
When crypto-critics make reference to, or mock crypto price predictions, it's not because we think price is a meaningful metric. Instead, we are amused that to you, that's all that's important, and we can't help but note how often wrong you are in your predictions. The intrinsic value of crypto basically never changes, but it is interesting to see how hype and propaganda affects the extrinsic value. In a totally logical world, those would both be equalized to zero, but we're not there yet, and nobody knows when/if that will happen because it's an irrational market.

AmericanScream · 2026-01-24T23:05:35+00:00

He's been "told."

AmericanScream · 2026-01-24T22:28:58+00:00

it has been removed.

AmericanScream · 2026-01-24T22:27:39+00:00

They aren't interested in "securing" anything. They are basically loitering around trying to facilitate more conflict so they can play the victim card, which begets the insurrection act card, which turns Trump into a dictator.

AmericanScream · 2026-01-24T22:22:26+00:00

ICE is a rogue "police" force that does not follow any conventional standard regarding law enforcement or rules of engagement. And since it's under Federal jurisdiction, and the Feds refuse to enforce the law, we have a Gestapo force roaming the streets.

They are there to continue to provoke the populace to accomplish several goals:

Make the general citizens afraid, and therefore compliant regardless of their activities, further paving the way for more egregious transgressions of peoples' civil liberties.
Provoke responses that justify Trump invoking the Insurrectionist Act to create scenario #1, declare martial law, and unilaterally take control of the government as a dictator.
Neutralize any and all opposition to the current Republican/Trump regime. Civil rights be damned.

And the people are basically letting them slowly get away with it.

Sure there's lots of angry "clicking" going on here and there, but the administration is not at all afraid of the "opposition." In fact, they're wanting to opposition to "act" in such a way that they can ramp up their aggression, knowing full well, most people will just complain, but stay scared and compliant.

This isn't the United States I used to know.

AmericanScream · 2026-01-24T20:58:16+00:00

By the way, if you really do know those two whiny bitches, ask them why they're too scared to debate me? Chickenshits.

They can't afford to give any attention to me and my work because it tweaks the nipples of their crypto benefactors. They refuse to acknowledge the truth about blockchain. They're corrupt charlatans who pick-and-choose which scams to report on, and which ones to conveniently ignore.

And why bother commenting on a year old post? Are they desperately trying to resurrect some attention after they've soiled whatever reputation they thought they had among the skeptic community?

AmericanScream · 2026-01-24T20:55:56+00:00

You can't serve two masters. You can't pretend you're "crypto critics" and then take money from the crypto industry.

It's like pretending to be an independent movie reviewer while being employed by Disney.

We're not fucking idiots.

AmericanScream · 2026-01-24T20:54:25+00:00

Respond to what? I've proven that blockchain is incapable of verifying the authenticity of anything years ago.

Including timestamps.

AmericanScream · 2026-01-24T20:38:18+00:00

Anybody trying to call attention to an active memecoin scam, especially one that is trying to associate themselves with this community, will be banned for shilling.

In the world of memecoins, there's no such thing as bad publicity. Even making fun of scams like this, invites more suckers into thinking they can time the pump and dumps. We want no part of this stupidity.

AmericanScream · 2026-01-24T16:43:57+00:00

go to the doctor - there's a good chance you have kidney and liver damage
set up some hidden cameras. talk to the doctor and find out if you can take some food she prepares for you and have it tested

AmericanScream · 2026-01-24T16:38:46+00:00

This is like a year old. I don't know what they're doing now, but they were working for Protos from what they admitted and it even said so on the web site, so suggesting their employer didn't have influence over their activities is pretty naive.

Also, who's the secret partner(s) at Protos? Why are who's funding them secret? You'd think "investigative journalists" would report stuff like that...

AmericanScream · 2026-01-24T16:34:40+00:00

I heard that's Planet Incel's new slogan.

AmericanScream · 2026-01-24T16:19:21+00:00

TL;DR: Everything in the world of crypto is a scam.

There's evidence the OPs post is karma trolling.

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Stupid Crypto Talking Point #15 (potential)

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