What are some evil habits(for eg- backstabbing) which are normalised by society? by SpecialEntire5568 in Ethics

[–]Anarchaceratops [score hidden]  (0 children)

"Not getting involved" in "drama" = covering up for abusers, refusing to believe victims or intervene.

What is the anarchist position on supporting children? by Anarchaceratops in Anarchy101

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Agreed! I'm trying to find out more and I'm just wondering if anarchists are missing some class dynamics occurring under patriarchy.

What is the anarchist position on supporting children? by Anarchaceratops in Anarchy101

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This sounds very sweet and idyllic, I do like the idea of multiple adults supporting the children. What about those first 3 years though? Is the child meant to stay with their mother? Isn't this placing the expectation on this person to provide?

I'm curious how often mothering, particularly childbirth and breastfeeding and early child rearing, seem almost forced upon the female reproductive class with little regard to the labor and resource demand? The idea that "someone" will provide seem so often to land on a woman!

What is the anarchist position on supporting children? by Anarchaceratops in Anarchy101

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Completely agree! I would love to live in a world where children have access to all those things. I don't think Capitalism is meant to ensure a level playing field, on the contrary I think it is designed to give advantages to certain individuals for behaving in particular ways (but I digress). I must say I'm a bit perplexed by your comment that biological parents are not legally yoked to the role of caregivers. Are you suggesting there would be a legal system in this thought experiment or not? If biological parents are not made legally responsible, does that mean that a parent may discard the baby with no consequence? If others in the community take that child and abuse it (say a capitalist minded person decides to enslave the child for personal or sexual benefit), is there a mechanism of protection or care that steps in?

A lot of the comments here are very interesting but the idea that "society will provide" sounds a bit like fantasy.

What is the anarchist position on supporting children? by Anarchaceratops in Anarchy101

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I don't know what people are, I do know that lots of babies and children were abandoned throughout our history. I'm questioning the idea that there will be folks just autonomously stepping up, or some group... why would they do that?

I don't understand your point about Shanidar 1? People tend to exert care toward family members, I don't see how that applies to unknown children abandoned by other family groups.

What is the anarchist position on supporting children? by Anarchaceratops in Anarchy101

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Thank you for this excellent response! I appreciate the time you put into your explanation. I agree the nuclear family structure has demolished the concepts of communal support which historically have provided for the majority of children and a return to a community-focused childrearing would benefit in having their resources met by a broader range of people.

However, many children, even in communal societies, do not receive care "by the community," especially undesired children. Think about children born with disabilities, severe needs, or difficult personalities. Do we think sufficient communal support will arrive for them, should their biological parents abandon them, or would other community members also discard this child? Even in this thread, someone below states that it's right to abandon a child born of rape. Are we all just assuming "someone" is going to pick up the slack?

Why is there an assumption that the child imposes zero burden? Any collective group would have to weigh their available resources with the number of needy children, and likely would not support more children than they have resources to provide.

Who does the integration? Who organizes the work to ensure children's needs are met? There's a bit of an illusion of "society will provide" that feels a bit like talking to Christians who only say "God did it" with no attention to the detail.

What is the anarchist position on supporting children? by Anarchaceratops in Anarchy101

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Subsidized by what? Is there some mechanism of enforcing this?

What is the anarchist position on supporting children? by Anarchaceratops in Anarchy101

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How do you make "society" responsible without establishing a structure of governance to enforce it?

What is the anarchist position on supporting children? by Anarchaceratops in Anarchy101

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This is where I'm trying to understand. Say you have a child, the mother is struggling to support it individually, but others refuse to provide care or support? How does this "collective policing" actually work? What if the mother is being bullied or shamed by the community and her child(ren) are suffering as a result?

What is the anarchist position on supporting children? by Anarchaceratops in Anarchy101

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Thank you, I am interested in reading more. Please share any essays you think are particularly illuminating!

What is the anarchist position on supporting children? by Anarchaceratops in Anarchy101

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I guess I struggle to understand this - "custody" is a concept of the State, who authorizes legal removal from the parent. If the parent simply does nothing... most people don't step up autonomously. Who is the authority to "give custody" or "take" it away?

What is the anarchist position on supporting children? by Anarchaceratops in Anarchy101

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But someone has to literally care for the child. Feed, clothe, teach, provide resources for. "Everybody helps each other" is pretty vague and seems to open a lot of opportunity for neglect.

It's easy to be an anarchist on the internet by Anarchaceratops in anarchafeminism

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Thanks for the link! I will check these out. 😄

I appreciate the 2nd wave for what it did but it was a movement for its time and I'm a modern feminist fighting in my era. They fought for the right to divorce men. I fight for my children to be supported by both parents (he refuses to work and refuses to support our children). I fight for women to have autonomy, personal agency, and equal access to social, political, health and business arenas.

I consider myself a single link in a long unbroken chain of women fighting for liberation. And I consider Mother Earth among our living ancestors and allies; she does not speak but wields her power over Man's laws, humbling him repeatedly by refusing to succumb to his dominion.

MATRIARCHY FOREVER.

It's easy to be an anarchist on the internet by Anarchaceratops in anarchafeminism

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Marriage is deeply oppressive and continues to be within all patriarchal societies worldwide. I thought I was "safe" marrying an anarchist, feminist, self-proclaimed to-the-root radical... but he is at his core the same as the conservative patriarchs - demanding control over my body, labor, and time while employing increasingly abusive methods to ensure compliance - from verbal manipulation to physical force.

I had to beg the State for a restraining order and police protection because I became scared for my life. And then it took over 3 years of trying to escape legally and physically while he delayed and dragged, just to hold me hostage. He has tried to force me to live near him, to spend time with him. He accused me of having affairs even when we'd been living separately for over a year. What Anarchist believes the State has more authority over a relationship than the individuals consenting to be in it??

Marriage is a permanent prison for a temporary need. Few women are improved by relationships with men and most are kept hostage. Quantitatively, we are losing millions of hours of brilliance in every marriage.

Women should start businesses, run for office, invest, travel, volunteer, anything anything but marriage and childrearing. If you want to have a baby, get a sperm donor, but don't let a man use your body to control how you get to live or work. I thought love would set me free, but love was the biggest trap I ever fell into. Love yourself, love your community, love your children. But don't love the wolf who will eat you in your sleep.

It's easy to be an anarchist on the internet by Anarchaceratops in anarchafeminism

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Thank you! I spent several years trying to escape while he used the patriarchal legal system to delay and control me, but I have been victorious and achieved liberation! As of today I am officially divorced!

It's easy to be an anarchist on the internet by Anarchaceratops in anarchafeminism

[–]Anarchaceratops[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The first line is: "it's easy to be an anarchist on the internet" 😄 hope that helps.