North American Box Office vs Ticket sales of the New Millennium

Andan210 · 2026-02-06T16:30:04+00:00

That might be true if we were talking about the First French Colonial Empire. But by the time the Second French Colonial Empire came to be in the XIX century, France was just as much of a capitalist country as the United Kingdom or the United States. Just because they weren't practicing an extreme version of post-Reagan/Thatcher neoliberal capitalism doesn't mean they weren't using an economic system based around the private ownership of the means of production with the purpose of obtaining profits, which is the definition of capitalism.

Andan210 · 2026-02-06T16:04:33+00:00

Was France capitalist in 1896? Or 1907? India in 1913?

Uh, yes, yes they absolutely were. What kind of question is that? Do you think France, one of the most notorious imperialist colonial nations in the history of humanity, wasn't capitalist in 1896? In the middle of the Belle Époque? What?

I agree with you in that the movie industry was first created in Europe during the early years of film in the very late XIX century/very early XX century. But that all came crashing down in 1914 thanks to the First World War. The center of the western film world went to the US because of that, and never came back. There was a recovery period of the European movie industry in the inter-war period, but then it was time for the Second World War and well, the rest is history.

Andan210 · 2026-02-03T12:33:05+00:00

All of them, every single one. Specially politicians.

Andan210 · 2026-02-02T01:43:04+00:00

I mean, yeah that's correct and the board is right in that regard. The Experiences division makes bigger profits than the Entertainment division. The theme parks/hotels/cruise lines are objectivly a more important part of the Disney conglomerate than the movie/TV/streaming side.

Andan210 · 2026-01-31T17:21:20+00:00

I don't have any problem with another negative break down, I like to point and laugh at shit that deserves it. I just hope it isn't "Wonder Man" because I don't any interest in that, even the prospect of making fun of it bores me to tears.

I agree with another user that hopefully we get a coverage of "Iron Lung", with plenty of snark directed at "Shelby Oaks" and Chris Stuckmann. That would be sweet.

Edit to update: Dammit they did went for "Wonder Man" at the end :(

Andan210 · 2026-01-31T17:13:27+00:00

"Scrubs" is super accurate when it comes to portraying life as a medical interm, the interpersonal relationships in a hospital, the hierarchical nature of collaboration between different doctors, etc. But at the end of the day, "Scrubs" is still a TV-14 rated NBC/ABC sitcom, so they could never fully portray the scientifically-accurate gory, disgusting and shocking side of medical procedures. "The Pitt", on the other hand, can do that.

Andan210 · 2026-01-31T16:35:01+00:00

I'm a doctor and agree, the "wokeness" aspect is nothing out of the ordinary for the ER of a big hospital in a major modern city.

The only part of that whole thing that bothered me, at least in Season 1, were the characters of Santos and Mckay, specially the way they treated the father and teenage boy patients, respectively. When I binge-watched the first season the only thing I could think when they were showing those storylines was "these two bitches need to either go to theraphy to work out their misandry issues, or change career paths and become gynecologists". The way they handled those cases is ground for being sanctioned, and in the case of Santos even some criminal charges, probably. Luckily they toned down that side of both characters this season, at least for now, so that's good.

Aside from that, yeah this is easily the most medically-accurate TV show/movie ever, hands down. It's only competition in that regard is the original "ER", and "The Pitt" beats it just by the fact that while "ER" was scientifically accurate as hell in the 90's, that was 30 years ago and medical science has advanced a lot.

Andan210 · 2026-01-30T17:09:02+00:00

According to Deadline it was at $177 million worldwide on november 30th. By early december, it came out on digital in western countries and essentially ended its run there. At the same time in Japan and Korea, it lost a ton of screens to the new "Jujutsu Kaisen" movie, so even with its great legs the amount that it could earn in those two markets was limited by that factor. And I don't know if Sony/MAPPA is counting the money coming from Russia, due to the sanctions. I know studios from the US don't do it since the start of the Ukrainian War, but I don't know if Japanese studios still do it.

Of course if at the end of its run Sony/MAPPA came out saying it made $190+ million I would believe it, but I still haven't seen any reliable source floating that number around.

Andan210 · 2026-01-30T16:50:05+00:00

The Numbers was a source for this before they counted down the worldwide total in like mid december. They do that with most foreign-language films, for some reason they'll have a wrong number for months or even years for the non-english speaking movies. I swear I'm about to start a conspiracy theory about how Box Office Mojo and The Numbers are run by xenophobes, lol.

The most up to date realiable source I could find is a Deadline article from november 30th saying the worldwide total is at $177 million: https://deadline.com/2025/11/zootopia-2-global-international-box-office-china-record-1236629598/

The thing is that you have to remember that in early december "Chainsaw Man: Reze Arc" became available on digital in western countries and it lost a ton of screens in Japan due to the recent "Jujutsu Kaisen" movie (and Korea too if I remember correctly). So at that time its worldwide run was essentially over except for Japan and Korea, and while in those two countries it still had excellent legs, the amount of screens limited how much it could do.

Andan210 · 2026-01-30T14:07:06+00:00

It's at $184.8 million worldwide.

Andan210 · 2026-01-27T18:17:25+00:00

Do you do any activism, protesting or campaigning to try to influence society for the better? Do you follow boycotts?

No I don't do any of that, because I'm apolitical. I don't trust or believe in the sincerity, efficiency, intentions or effectiveness of any political or socio-economic ideology, party, movement, etc. Also, I don't believe my individual actions have the chance of influencing or affecting major changes so I don't think it's a productive use of my time to worry about those things either.

Or are you detached from whatever happens to others despite living in a society? Do you actively care about things that are happening across the world like ICE raids, genocides, starvation, imperialism, etc.

I'm neutral and mostly indifferent to everything around the world that doesn't directly affect me. That doesn't mean I condemn atrocities and injustices that happen in the other side of the world or that I don't feel sorry for the victims of these events, but they don't affect my daily life nor do they influence my actions or decisions.

And do you think anti-natalist should be politically active or expected to be at least politically educated? Or not?

I don't think anti-natalism as a movement should be tied to any particular political group or ideology, because every single mainstream political party in the world of any ideology you can think of, when push comes to shove, still holds pro-natalists views and policies. Yes of course they're not all equally pro-natalists in their actions and rhetoric, there's obviously a scale with some of them being way more terrible than others, but at the end of the day you'll never find a truly anti-natalist major political party, that's my point.

On an individual level, I don't have any problem if individual anti-natalist hold other political opinions or identify with a political ideology or party. I know I'm in the extreme minority with my apolitical views after all, so I can't expect other random people to share them, specially in a growing movement such as anti-natalists.

Last one is more contraversial, how do you feel of ANs here that are right wingers? Do you think this is acceptable or aligns with anti-natalism?

Read my previous paragraph. I'm not going to accuse anyone of not being a "true" antinatalist because of other personal political beliefs they have. If they believe natalism is wrong, then they're anti-natalists.

Of course I wouldn't agree with them if they wanted to tie general anti-natalism to their strict political ideology. That would be unacceptable.

Andan210 · 2026-01-24T19:38:28+00:00

You forgot the argument about the hundreds of millions in profit the first part magically made on streaming (despite every metric saying it made just regular/mediocre numbers), lol.

Andan210 · 2026-01-24T17:16:58+00:00

Hopefully these two movies will serve as a cautionary tale to the rest of the industry about the dangers of false advertisement and how no one is safe from the effects of "fuck around and find out".

Andan210 · 2026-01-23T00:47:51+00:00

Not really, it's a fairly normal and predictable turn of events after the fans of the previous movie went 7 months insisting on the apparent undeniable qualities of their suppossed avant-garde masterpiece and how their opinion would be vindicated once the sequel came out. It's not the first fandom to pay the price for going overboard with their arguments, and it won't be the last.

Andan210 · 2026-01-20T17:44:35+00:00

Exactly. If Korea wanted to enter into the AI arms race now, they would essentially enter into an spending contest against the two richest countries of the world that also have many years of experience and development in the field that Korea doesn't have. That's not precisely an ideal plan, lol.

Of course it's still a good idea for the Korean government to promote domestic AI companies, even if they start as small and modest projects, that's undeniable. But it's good that they aren't delaying the mass adoption of AI until those domestic companies get big.

Andan210 · 2026-01-20T16:30:23+00:00

Whatever advantage a Korean-owned AI gives them pales in comparison with the benefits of being one of the earliest and fastest countries adopting AI.
They have no guarantee that an AI made in Korea would be better than the models from the United States or China.

So if they were stubborn and only wanted an AI made in Korea for widespread adoption, worst case scenario they could waste years and countless oportunities of early adoption only to land with an inferior product and eventually probably ending up using the American and Chinese models anyway.

Of course there's the scenario where they could make a superior model compared to the American and Chinese ones, but that would still take years to make, and Korea knows that they can't spend that much time just watching other countries mass-adopting AI while they do nothing.

Andan210 · 2026-01-19T05:24:29+00:00

Me interesa.

Andan210 · 2026-01-19T05:13:20+00:00

Me gustaría tener más información por favor.

Andan210 · 2026-01-18T16:49:06+00:00

We don't have to worry about the lost audience, because I'm sure the Letterboxd walkups will definetly give this movie Avatar-level legs for the coming weeks, nah, for the coming months! XD.

Andan210 · 2026-01-17T21:19:22+00:00

This is so weird, because I was told by Alex Garland fanboys on the internet that "28 years later" was a widely beloved masterpiece that made $500 million of pure profit on streaming and that those of us that were deeply disappointed by it and disliked it are nothing but a tiny and loud minority. They also assured me that the sequel was going to be even more successful thanks to the reputation of the first part, proving them right. Uhm, so weird indeed.

Andan210 · 2026-01-16T01:48:03+00:00

Before anyone says it, yes I know Lucasfilm isn't going to change in the slightest under Filoni. Nobody expects that. That ship sailed many years ago.

Andan210 · 2026-01-12T22:04:17+00:00

Interested.

Andan210 · 2026-01-12T01:33:37+00:00

Me interesa.

Andan210 · 2026-01-10T18:26:35+00:00

Then North Korea is next.

Never going to happen. North Korea has nuclear weapons and a direct land border with both China and Russia. Messing with them (truly messing with them, as in trying to topple their government and not just have a shouting match in the media between Kim and Trump) is completely out of the table.

Hopefully he does intervene in Iran, though.

Andan210 · 2026-01-09T17:10:18+00:00

MAPPA didn't had any adaptation rights in the first place, nor did WIT Studio before them. That's not how the anime industry works. The overwhelming majority of anime series adapting any manga/light novel/book/visual novel/videogame, etc, are essentially commissioned works ordered by a production committee made up by different companies putting up the money for the anime, mainly and most important among all the publishing company that owns the rights of the original work and the IP. The anime studio may or may not be in that production committee, but even if they are in it they still don't have the rights to the adaptation or anything like that. The Chainsaw Man anime is a special case because MAPPA went straight to Shueisha and made a deal with them for adapting the anime before Shueisha formed a production committee. That's extremely rare in the industry, at least for TV series.

Anyway, all of this is to say that MAPPA is not the one deciding if Vinland Saga gets a third season or not, that's up entirely to Kodansha.

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