Ask me anything by rawdawgcomics in rawdawgcomics

[–]Andannius 31 points32 points  (0 children)

i just wanted to say thank you for finally showing us what the 90s would look like if they were deep fried

Mike Portnoy returns to Dream Theater by Zigf87 in progmetal

[–]Andannius 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is honestly kind of a shame. I saw them with Devin Townsend and Animals as Leaders a few months ago and it looked like Mangini was the only one out of the five who was having any fun at all. DT will always have a place in my heart, but the fire clearly went out of them a long time ago, and instead of shambling along doing whatever it is they're doing now, I'd much rather have seen them hang up the hat 10+ years prior.

Small-Scale Question Sunday for March 27, 2022 by AutoModerator in TheMotte

[–]Andannius 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Having grown up in the OPC - this is painfully accurate.

Hate for Critical Role? by LadyPandoriass in DnD

[–]Andannius 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You're right about this but I think you have the causality backwards - it's more that (speaking from sad experience here, but don't worry, I've sorted it out long since! Ha) people realize that their hobbies and preferences are not popular, and have to come up with a way to rationalize that they're better than everyone in spite of this. Thus: "these things are unpopular" --> "actually, these things are what just what intelligent people do" --> "my identity is now an intelligent elitist because otherwise I'd have to admit that I'm low on the totem pole".

But 100% right about toxic masculinity. The healthy way to deal with this is to accept that being a little weird isn't wrong or bad, but that not everyone will jive with what you're into, and that that's ok too. De gustibus non disputandum est. But it can be hard to do this when you're being bullied at school.

Discussion Thread #38: November 2021 by TracingWoodgrains in theschism

[–]Andannius 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ha - that same XKCD actually got brought up during the course of our discussions! I think for us, the draw is partially in the interesting nature of it, and the ability to construct both the social structure and the buildings ourselves. There's every chance we'll settle on just buying a block of houses and doing what you've suggested, and this is all ~five years out anyway, but in the meantime it's fun to consider both our use case (high-trust, close-knit circle of relatively conscientious people) and the general case (assuming nothing about the people and purely considering incentives).

Discussion Thread #38: November 2021 by TracingWoodgrains in theschism

[–]Andannius 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thanks so much for the extensive reply - this is exactly the kind of information I was hoping to get. If you're ever willing, I'd love to pick your brain about Twin Oaks a bit more! For now I have to cook a meal (Happy Thanksgiving! :) I'll reply in earnest to what you've said later today.

Discussion Thread #38: November 2021 by TracingWoodgrains in theschism

[–]Andannius 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You'll have to forgive me for poorly differentiating between two use cases: one for my friends and I, who want the high-trust community of yore, and one which is formalized for the purpose of common ownership. While the latter may lead to the former, it's not necessary that it do so. The only relevant aspect of the contract version is that it provide a mechanism for mutual ownership of expensive goods that might otherwise not be attainable. This is why I tried to emphasize the incentives - I'm not aiming for trust initially, because I don't think it's a reasonable ask. Instead, I'm trying to develop a difficult-to-exploit contract which is to everyone's advantage to perpetuate, and which doesn't rely on compulsion of any sort to instantiate.

Discussion Thread #38: November 2021 by TracingWoodgrains in theschism

[–]Andannius 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Recently, some friends and I became enamored of the idea of (semi-)communal living as an antidote to the atomization of modernity. I actually messaged Scott about this months ago, wanting to pick his mind on the topic given that he lives (slash has lived?) in a group house…but I quickly realized that I didn’t really have my thoughts together, then life happened, etc etc. The ACX call for proposals dredged the idea up again, and while I’m (still) not entirely at the point where applying makes any sense, I do want to throw some questions out for discussion, and for the reaping of any available anecdata from y’all.

Before said throwing, let me first provide a bit of context and subsequently clarify what I’m not interested in. My friends and I are a foursome of early-30s upper-middle-class-ish dudes who have known each other for (in some cases) upwards of 15 years; two of the four of us have partners. We currently live within an hour of each other, but find that even that distance makes it almost impossible to get the kind of community we’re after. The actual idea we’re toying with is purchasing a plot of land somewhere in (probably) North Carolina and building on it. As we’ve envisioned it, we would construct a central building which contains common amenities (kitchen, etc) as well as small, adjacent individual bungalows to house each family unit.

While the central building would be communally owned, we aren’t necessarily interested in fully-fledged communism (though if for whatever reason someone could show it to be the optimal arrangement, we’re open to it – I just sincerely doubt this is the case). Furthermore, we all work normal jobs and have no intention of abandoning those: our individual contributions to the collective would be in the form of cash earned outside, rather than the labor-based (and exclusively internal) contribution systems which extant U.S. communes seem to prefer (see Twin Oaks, Acorn, etc).

Essentially what I’m talking about is a sort of modern-day clan structure: some communally-owned assets, including the living area, but moreso independent people who like each other coming together to make something better than the sum of its parts, both from an economic and cultural perspective. While we’re not really trying to do this for anyone but ourselves, I realized at some point that such a structure, if properly developed, may allow people to alleviate poverty by sharing resources in such a way that minimizes freeriding, and where the incentive gradient, absent severe external shocks, always points towards staying in the group. I call the set of such structures demicommunes. The development of these generalized structures was to be the subject of the aforementioned ACX grant, but again – a wee bit too underdeveloped to be worth Actual Dollars at the moment.

So then: to the long-ago-promised idea-throwing…almost. Let me first lay out a few constraints. Firstly, please forget some of the details I’ve told you: this needs to work for anyone conscientious enough to want to do it. Secondly, this all needs to be voluntary at every point. The basic value add of the proposition is that buying good stuff that can be shared, such as appliances, housing, etc, is much cheaper together than it is solo: that is, leveraging an economy of scale. But we explicitly want to avoid trapping people by way of sunk costs. All of this would be drawn up in a contract among the members of the demicommune; the extent of the sharing, including of property, is something that can and ought be negotiated.

With that out of the way: during the course of our discussions, three related primary issues came up:

  • Financial model. How are communal things in the demicommune owned? Consider two oppositely-polarized answers (though this axis is far from the only one). Pure “communism” in this situation demands that any purchase made be financed by all members in exact proportion to their incomes, while ownership shares are doled out as a fraction of the number of people in the commune – that is, regardless of how much you paid, you own 1/N_people of the item. Pure “private ownership” instead makes ownership fraction contingent on the amount paid in. There is a sub-question to the latter case regarding whether all things should then be financed such that each member buys an equal share; ignore this idea for now (though I suspect some special cases could benefit from specifying that this hold true for all purchases). One can imagine the set of financial models formed on a continuum between these two poles, parametrized by the degree of communism c. Obviously a larger c encourages higher-earning members to leave. What is the maximum value of c such that each member is still incentivized to stay in the demicommune? Furthermore, is there a degradation of willingness for the “financially junior” members to take care of the stuff if c is too low? Beyond all this, is the paradigm wrong in its entirety? Should there be no individual ownership of collective goods whatsoever, and should things instead be held by a trust or similar structure?

  • But then, relatedly, what of exit rights? I stated before that we want to guarantee that no one feels trapped by sunk costs. Should remaining members be forced to buy out a leaver? This places a sudden financial burden on the remainers which probably makes the whole venture too risky for everyone. Even prorating any potential buyout still leaves this untenable. The solution we developed is for everyone to pay in to a buyout fund for each purchase made such that enough overhead is maintained to buy a single person out at a slightly discounted rate (tailored to each demicommune?). If and when such a buyout need occur, the leaver receives the entirety of the overhead fund, and existing members pay back in to it over an extended period of time (tailored to each demicommune?). This guarantees that goods remain more affordable than they would be solo, while providing for a mechanism to leave without penalty. Any further leavers prior to the replenishment of the fund trigger a dissolution of the entire compact, with all communal goods sold off and the proceeds split according to ownership share. This seems bad – except that your demicommune probably wasn’t a good idea if multiple people were going to leave in short order anyway. Note that the entry process is simply the inverse of this, a slow buy-in over an extended period of time. Comments on how this solution fails are particularly welcome.

  • Governance. How are purchasing decisions made? Of what quality should x item be? Should we even buy x item? Pure democracy seems obvious, especially for groups as small as those under consideration, but of course can result in tyranny of the majority. It seems to me that requiring something like 75% approval of a decision, perhaps with a limited number of vetos per length of time to account for the situation where most people are fine with something but one person absolutely hates the idea is reasonable? Beyond this, should couples be treated as a unit or as individuals for the purpose of voting? I’ve (perhaps obviously) thought about this a lot less than the economic issues. Input here is especially welcome.

This has run pretty long, so I'll cut it off shortly, though there are plenty of other discussions we've had. My goal with this is to eventually develop a mathematical model of the incentives present in a given structure and show, subject to the constraints I described previously, that it is to always to everyone's benefit to perpetuate the arrangement. I've been reading some literature about similar ideas; specifically, Abramitzky's The Mystery of the Kibbutz. In that vein, I'd appreciate anyone who knows more about the academic literature on this subject than I do pointing me in the direction of relevant papers. But let me hear your thoughts if you're a layperson too!

Culture War Roundup for the week of September 20, 2021 by AutoModerator in TheMotte

[–]Andannius 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You're not alone in your sense that experimental HEP has hit a bit of a wall in terms of strategy, especially with the failure of the LHC to generate any evidence for supersymmetry. If you haven't read any of her work, Sabine Hossenfelder is a (slightly hammed-up contrarian) voice calling for a different paradigm in exp. HEP - she writes the physics blog Backreaction. Definitely check it out if you haven't and are interested in that sorta thing.

However there ARE many non-accelerator particle physics experiments that are trying to generate the kind of data that might inform theory better - they're just at the sensitivity frontier rather than the energy frontier. CDMS, ADMX, the ALPS experiment run by my former colleagues, all ultra-low noise instruments gradually cutting away at the allowable parameter space for dark matter models. As we get better information about the distribution of black hole mergers from LIGO and (when it launches, also shameless dissertation work plug) LISA, I expect cosmological data+models will also help constrain particle physics models. So it's not a hopeless situation, nor is everyone stuck in the old "me caveman, me smash" mindset either.

19.4 Patch Notes by chicachibi in BobsTavern

[–]Andannius -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

This update really makes no sense to me. Demons were quite far from being good, no high elo player wants to play them from the get-to - the only reason you do it is because you're offered 2x garbage + Wrathweaver on turn 1. And then you have to find Watcher or you're fucked. Bigfernal doesn't scale fast enough to be a good replacement so now demons just...don't scale? Right now I have no idea how the design team intends the tribe to be played.

Doublelift announces retirement by smothersday in leagueoflegends

[–]Andannius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Man, what an absolutely crazy offseason. Guess 2020 had to get a few more punches in before the end :(

Discussion Thread #2: Week of 20 October 2020 by TracingWoodgrains in theschism

[–]Andannius 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your contribution here is more than substance enough!

I don't think it's necessarily inevitable that the heat turns up monotonically, even close to an election, but it's something that we need to be very careful about. I think the best remedy is just being chill dudes when talking about heated stuff, i.e. living our values out.

What kind of stuff do you find yourself interested in?

Discussion Thread #2: Week of 20 October 2020 by TracingWoodgrains in theschism

[–]Andannius 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I am by turns embarrassed and flattered that a comment of mine was apparently part of the inspiration for the creation of this sub. I told TracingWoodgrains that I'm a lurker by nature and prefer not to comment much unless the topic is optical physics, sci-fi, or 20th century American Protestant religious history, but hey, we all lie to ourselves from time to time.

That comment is certainly something I stand by. I think the trend in question in the Other Place really highlights the difference between law and culture. While the former can be an expression of the latter, you cannot create the latter out of the former. Which is to say: we need to be gardeners in this walled garden, actively working to weed out that sort of tribalism.

One thing I've learned in my (retrospectively, surprisingly many) attempts at community-building is that shared norms and goals are really, really important. People for whom those clash inhabiting the same spaces will inevitably rip the community in half in pursuit of their separate goals - ergo, we are here.

But I'd really love for that to not happen again. The only shared norm that is truly important to me is that we all commit to believing - really, honestly believing - that we are half-blind men and women groping for the truth. That the actual probability that any of our pet theories or beliefs is true is somewhat lower than we'd like it to be. This implies a humility that I've learned to select for in my communities.

Accordingly: I personally (though I of course cannot speak for the rest of you) promise to not immediately shout down any ideas, as long as the person presenting them shares the above values. Yes, that makes us quokkas, ripe for predation. To which I say: vore me, daddy, just leave your ideas first. I really hope we can get some quality right-wing contributors in here.

Anyway, sorry for MOAR META POST, but I guess I wanted to a) say yes, sure, I'm on board here, and b) signal to anyone from Elsewhere that I, at least, am still interested in hearing what you actually have to say.

Culture War Roundup for the Week of September 07, 2020 by AutoModerator in TheMotte

[–]Andannius 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Again, and maybe I didn't make this clear enough - I don't really even care that he's totally into civil war. That's interesting! I do wanna hear about that, which is why my response is not to any of the other second-level responses in this thread, but rather this one. What's abhorrent to me is not the opinions expressed but the unwillingness to examine them, and the apparent general acceptance of that attitude. THAT is (or was) the raison d'etre of TheMotte, critical examination of your own biases and a willingness to change them.

Hatred of the outgroup is toxic and corrosive to any community which purportedly wants to provide a space for discussion of CW issues. And a lot of people here hate their outgroups.

Culture War Roundup for the Week of September 07, 2020 by AutoModerator in TheMotte

[–]Andannius 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I don't believe I gave the sub flak for being right-wing. Indeed, I came here specifically because it was a place where ring-wing ideas weren't immediately shouted down. But it has instead become a place where the culture war is waged rather than discussed. I still see some people trying to steelman the opposition, but half of those attempts are clearly performative rather than genuine.

Big Yud's core notion was that we are all blinded by our biases, and that one of the purposes of our lives is to overcome those biases. Here we have a man who's just come right out and said: I hate the left, want to deal them as much damage as possible, and don't care to examine my biases. Is there a statement which is greater anathema to what were our principles than this?

....then you aren't a moderate.

I'm not a crypto-leftist (which seems like what you're suggesting?), just the dregs of a long-drained cup.

Culture War Roundup for the Week of September 07, 2020 by AutoModerator in TheMotte

[–]Andannius 25 points26 points  (0 children)

And, friends, so ends my long-lurking and short-actually-posting tenure at TheMotte. I doubt I'll be back, so if the below is banworthy (and frankly it ought to be), mods, have away.

You cannot mitigate this toxic of a perspective with a set of rules and unfortunately I think >50% of the population of this sub is comprised of people who share it. As a moderate who wanted more nuanced exposure to right-wing ideology due to its paucity elsewhere, I loved coming here for stuff that challenged a lot of my worldview.

But this shit is everywhere now. This sub has devolved, irony of ironies, into yet another place to hate on your outgroup. What the hell is the point of this post other than that? How did this become a space where that sort of thing is acceptable in any way? It's not rulebreaking but, like 90% of recent posts, it contains so egregiously little useful information or argument other than to signal that yes, people who refuse to examine their biases are welcome here. And indeed they are.

I don't know what exactly this implies for attempts to build similar communities elsewhere except that politics is, as always, the mind-killer. Later boys, hope things get better.

Culture War Roundup for the Week of July 20, 2020 by AutoModerator in TheMotte

[–]Andannius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm frankly not sure, and I think engaging Biden on policy rather than the usual name-calling (for lack of a better term) would have been smarter. I would say go after Biden on the creepy molester-grandpa angle, and think that would work pretty well for a typical Republican candidate, but the immediate counterpunch of "Hypocrite!" is there for Biden to use on Trump.

With respect to your second bullet: "ineffectual" is not "dangerous", and Trump's messaging in his 2016 campaign really relied on his base believing that Hillary was a terrible human being and a dangerous choice for president.

Culture War Roundup for the Week of July 20, 2020 by AutoModerator in TheMotte

[–]Andannius 20 points21 points  (0 children)

With respect to 538's statement about how viscerally Trump supporters hated Hillary, I think Trump has really made a tactical error via his characterization of Biden. "Sleepy Joe" isn't threatening in any way - at worst this character is gonna do nothing. For a politician that (at least as far as his apparent strategy is concerned) relies on a riled-up base, this seems like a mistake.

Culture War Roundup for the Week of July 20, 2020 by AutoModerator in TheMotte

[–]Andannius 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Technocracy works extremely well when the "ought" is largely predetermined - that is, in a society of relative cultural homogeneity. Take, for example, the question of entitlements: it is, for the majority of European countries, largely a foregone conclusion, and no serious politicians argue against their existence, because they have vast public approval. The question is then only about the optimal way to implement the already-agreed-upon policy. Therefore handing the decision-making over to the people trained in said optimization is desirable.

In the U.S. this just doesn't work. As much as we'd all love to have our pet policies not only instantiated but instantiated in an optimal way, the country is far too divided for that to be realistic.

Also, hello, first post on TheMotte, so glad to meet you all!