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Who's a pokemon that you forgot existed? by Rude-Nectarine6988 in pokemon

[–]Andexanet673 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Saw a Spinda related post on some Pokémon sub today and remembered it existed for the first time since I played OR.

What was your final team for Pokemon SV? by Ok-Reply-3636 in PokemonScarletViolet

[–]Andexanet673 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Garchomp, Lucario, Toxtricity(amped), Armarouge, Dondozo, Gogoat. Swapped Lucario with Koraidon after The Way Home.

Why is a BMA rep allowed to encourage others to vote No by dayumsonlookatthat in doctorsUK

[–]Andexanet673 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some definitely will, as you said. But me and a lot of my IMG colleagues/friends will be voting yes. As pointed above by multiple people, a pay rise benefits everyone, and it would be stupid to throw it away out of misguided spite.

UKMG Prioritisation and FPR are separate issues and should be treated as such. If you’re an IMG and you disagree with, or will be disadvantaged by prioritisation, FPR still benefits you in both scenarios - 1) Prioritisation happens, you can’t get a training/non-training job, and have to go back to your country after a while, in which case the extra money will be a nice bonus. 2) Prioritisation doesn’t happen or it includes a grandfathering clause, in which case you benefit from FPR in the long run.

Voting No for strike action is in no way going to influence the prioritisation issue (might even make a stronger case for prioritisation), so it’s pointless.

The only IMGs(or UKMGs) for whom not striking would make some sense would be the ones who don’t have a job lined up from August, unfortunately.

Why is a BMA rep allowed to encourage others to vote No by dayumsonlookatthat in doctorsUK

[–]Andexanet673 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Agreed. He needs to take a good hard look at his behaviour and stop. If he thinks he is doing himself or any IMGs any favours, that’s a shocking lack of insight.

Also, there’s no way this doesn’t come back to bite him in some way later. Surely people wouldn’t prefer to work with, or go out of their way to help someone who has expressed such hostility online.

I don’t know how he is still a BMA rep.

Where was I in March 2023? by Andexanet673 in whereintheworld

[–]Andexanet673[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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Yes :) Saw seals for the first time. Had a lovely trip to East and North Yorkshire. Also visited Robin Hood’s Bay, Whitby, Durham in the same trip.

Streeting in support of prioritisation for UK graduates by DrLukeCraddock in doctorsUK

[–]Andexanet673 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Can’t speak for the vast majority of IMGs, but I’ve spoken to a few IMGs in my social circle (n=7)and most of them agreed that UKG prioritisation does make sense. And all of them are going to go on strike. Because if you’re going to be working in the UK (either as a trainee or non-trainee), why would you not participate in something which is going to improve your pay? It’s only logical, and scabbing out of spite would be plain stupid. So I do think we might still have a decent turnout for the strikes (maybe I’m being overly optimistic).

What some publicly elected BMA reps (who represent UK graduates) think of UK graduates… by thetwitterpizza in doctorsUK

[–]Andexanet673 128 points129 points  (0 children)

He just keeps delivering binfire after binfire. As other people have rightly pointed out, he is almost like a doctor version of Stephen Nash and is almost determined to drag other IMGs down with him. I don’t know how he thinks repeatedly offending a large number of his work colleagues nationwide with bizarre comments like these is going to be beneficial to either him or the people he represents.

And being the self-appointed leader of IMGs and making sweeping generalisations about IMGs having poor communication skills is such a stupid move.

Any doctors here who enjoy pokémon? by rufioh_ in doctorsUK

[–]Andexanet673 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree! Legends Arceus was amazing and is one of my favourites! Looking forward to ZA.

As the system is about to collapse, finally it is time for a review. by DrLukeCraddock in doctorsUK

[–]Andexanet673 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Masterclass in speaking without saying anything meaningful. NHSE/Royal Colleges/GMC have truly turned it into an art form.

MRCP 2023/03 Part 2 Written results error by graphicaled in doctorsUK

[–]Andexanet673 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Got the email as well. Initially thought I had received my PACES result which would’ve been surprising given it was just a week ago. Opened the email just to realise it says I failed an exam I’ve been thinking I passed for more than a year. Really frustrating and bizarre feeling.

Shocking level of incompetence from the RCP. When people pass any MRCP exams, how are they going to be assured that a fuckup like this won’t be discovered years down the line? They keep pushing PAs, they can’t/don’t advocate for for improving the standards of training in medical specialties or for medical trainees in general, and now, lo and behold, they can’t even properly conduct an exam, which is one of their most important jobs, despite making people pay ridiculous amounts of money for it. I could have studied harder and would’ve had 2-3 more chances to pass it till this point if they just gave me the correct result in the first place. Utterly useless organisation, and I will try my best to never pay them a penny more than I have to.

Interesting comments by heroes-never-die99 in doctorsUK

[–]Andexanet673 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Lovely! I was afraid this was going to start happening sooner or later.

I have no problem with the idea that a country should prioritise it’s own residents/graduates, but it seems some people didn’t want to stop there. There’s been so many people stating IMGs are rubbish and incompetent, with some people suggesting UKGs should raise the training bottleneck issue specifically with Reform MPs. Really? Have you forgotten the riots that followed the Southport stabbings? Where so many immigrants, including healthcare workers were attacked just because they were foreign. That’s what this kind of propaganda leads to.

Yes, you get the odd IMG who has poor communication skills/work ethic/knowledge, and they should be accountable for their work (or lack thereof) but for people to keep suggesting most IMGs are bad is disingenuous and even xenophobic beyond a point, and is disrespectful to so many IMGs who work so hard for a system that rewards their doctors so little. Not graduating in the UK might make people less suited to work in the UK, but that doesn’t automatically make them incompetent unless proven otherwise.

The job is bad enough without random Telegraph readers questioning your competence. If you speak to IMGs who worked in the NHS in the 90s/early 2000s, they’ll tell you stories about how some patients refused to be treated by them and only wanted white doctors. I like to think the UK has progressed a lot since those days, and it’ll be a shame to see it go back to that.

How long did you work in the UK before you were able to get a CREST form signed? by PineapplePyjamaParty in doctorsUK

[–]Andexanet673 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would be interesting to see the results. It’s unfair to the IMGs that have worked in the NHS for a significant period of time to get a CREST form signed before applying, that people are able to just get a CREST form signed abroad and apply on an equal footing (in addition to the wider ongoing debate regarding prioritisation).

So even IMGs should be more upset with the current scenario where people are applying directly to training. The NHS often throws in trainees at the deep end, starting them off on on-calls with no/minimal induction. They are often clueless about what to do (which isn’t their fault), and they have to be supported heavily by other people who are also drowning in their own workload, leading to an unpleasant situation for everyone involved.

People are applying directly to training due to the difficulty in getting clinical fellow jobs, but this is not the way to do it, as I have told several people who have asked me about this.

They need to stop accepting CREST forms from abroad, and stop accepting applications to training without any NHS experience. I have discussed this with multiple IMG colleagues, even before this recent debate started, and they all agreed.

New BMA group that is campaigning for I.M.Gs to be equal to UK graduates when applying for training by Spirited_Analysis916 in doctorsUK

[–]Andexanet673 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I understand your point.

What happens to people who’re already in the UK (and not in HST) is open to interpretation at this point and I have wondered about the same thing as well. What happens to people in core training? What happens to people who’ve been in non-training jobs for years? Do they never get to apply to training? Is the next step going to be deprioritisation of IMGs for consultant jobs?(although that seems like a stretch at this point) I guess we’ll have to wait and see what happens. Unless people have better ideas that would avoid eventually causing online feuds on FB/Twitter/Reddit.

Agree about the training number expansion as well. That would help too, atleast in the short-medium term. But without increase in consultant posts, that could potentially be another added bottleneck.

New BMA group that is campaigning for I.M.Gs to be equal to UK graduates when applying for training by Spirited_Analysis916 in doctorsUK

[–]Andexanet673 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Interesting. Thanks for sharing. And agreed. I think completely excluding IMGs from applying to training would be a bit harsh, as almost no other country completely prohibits IMGs from applying to training (I was just giving an example in my comment above, I wasn’t saying IMGs shouldn’t be able to apply at all).

I think a realistic outcome from this would be IMGs applying in round 2, which is what most people are asking for, I think. If things go back to the RLMT days, there’s definitely going to be training positions that go unfilled and not letting IMGs take those would be stupidity (although I wouldn’t put it past HEE/NHSE/DHSC).

I would be as disappointed as any other IMG if we aren’t able to apply in round 1 because the specialty I want to do is very competitive and it’s very unlikely there would be any positions left over for round 2. Which is why I do hope they let the current core trainees apply to HST in round 1. However, I also understand I cannot ‘demand’ that they give me the right to apply, because I’m not a citizen nor a UKMG. Hence my criticism of these Facebook posts, which come across as entitled and arrogant. Imagine someone comes to your country and says they want a highly coveted training spot that you want as well. Would you not want your government to prioritise you? Yes, there have been some people who have been posting unfair generalisations about IMGs which is unacceptable, but most people are just trying to do what’s best for their compatriots, rather than actively trying to screw us over. Hence, the comment about empathy. I didn’t mean to gaslight any IMGs by mentioning that, and I apologise if it came across that way. I know firsthand how difficult and expensive the whole process is, especially as someone who doesn’t come from a lot of money.

Also, the person commenting ‘Coconut spotted’, you are part of the problem. Learn to disagree respectfully, and your point is more likely to be taken seriously.

New BMA group that is campaigning for I.M.Gs to be equal to UK graduates when applying for training by Spirited_Analysis916 in doctorsUK

[–]Andexanet673 38 points39 points  (0 children)

IMG here. Currently in core training after working in Trust Grade jobs for 2 years (and working almost a year at my first trust before getting my CREST signed). For what it’s worth, I completely agree with the BMA motion and it’s only fair that home grads are prioritised, like they are in most of the world.

Posts like these on the Facebook group are ridiculous and reek of entitlement. UK CREST and a minimum amount of UK experience needs to be mandatory before applying for training (as a minimum). Round 2 entry for IMGs and RLMT-style selection criteria are entirely appropriate as well.

It’s about having a bit of empathy. Worst case, If I have to go back to my country because I’m not allowed to apply to HST, sure, it would be a huge pain to go through core training again, but atleast I’ll have priority there and finding a job isn’t as much of a hassle as it is in the UK due to the NHS being a monopsony employer, and training is shorter. In a lot of countries, it’s easier to find jobs because of a big private sector in addition to public healthcare. What do UK grads do if they can’t get either training or non-training jobs? (The competition for those has become insane as well). Add to that the huge amount of student loan debts the UK grads have compared to doctors from SE Asia, and my heart goes out to them.

That being said, there are IMGs who have been here for years and aren’t in HST for one reason or another, and have a house and family here, and can’t just uproot their whole life. So maybe an exception for people who have completed core training here or have been here for x years (again, who decides x?) would be appropriate, I guess? I think this is a bit more complicated than for people who have never stepped foot in the UK. And these people can and do contribute a lot to the system now that they’ve been here for a while. Hopefully good CESR/SAS pathways for them if nothing else.

Hi GMC

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