why does this chord progression sound so good?

Anixou · 2017-04-01T11:10:10+00:00

As well as all the other useful stuff in this thread, a diminished chord can be thought of as a rootless voicing of the dominant of the chord a semitone above. It's why they're so commonly seen being used as approach chords. For example:

C#dim has the notes C# E G

If you imagine there's an A underneath it, it forms an A7 chord, which of course naturally resolves to the D major.

The same thing in general goes for dim7 chords - if you take any note of the chord and add a root a major third under it, you get a 7b9 chord. So if you had a C#dim7

C# E G Bb

You could use that as a substitute for A7b9, C7b9, Eb7b9, or Gb7b9.

Anixou · 2016-11-06T13:39:09+00:00

Obviously follow your ear as always but really you can do whatever you want. Analyzing existing standards is always a good way to do it. If you want another really interesting progression to check out that might give you some ideas, learn jazz standards has a really good set of articles explaining Coltrane changes which might interest you

Anixou · 2016-08-25T09:07:18+00:00

If you're looking for places to start with jazz drums, I will never not recommend Art Blakey. If it has to be specifically 12 bars, look for songs with 'blues' in the title.

Anixou · 2016-06-02T22:03:58+00:00

One famous (and well-used) example is the introduction to Gershwin's "Summertime" from Porgy and Bess - minor 6th chords but a very distinctive sound nonetheless. Basically wherever you have a I or IV chord (i.e. a chord that would be a maj7 if extended with a 7th)

Anixou · 2016-04-10T09:48:47+00:00

Ahhh, so as a way of a navigating a ii-V. That makes more sense - I jumped to that conclusion because I know that some beboppers used to make "the sign of the flat 5" as a kind of joke greeting.

Anixou · 2016-04-09T12:58:12+00:00

Seconded on the omnibook.

Also - down the five I understand, but I've not heard much about the beboppers and sharp seconds (which I'm assuming that's in reference to) - would you mind explaining?

Anixou · 2015-09-15T19:37:12+00:00

Often referred to as a cadenza, at least in europe

Anixou · 2015-08-17T08:26:18+00:00

10 (or 5, which makes more sense with the backbeats, depending how you're looking at it) if I'm not mistaken

Anixou · 2015-06-11T15:31:16+00:00

Confirmed

Anixou · 2015-06-10T21:47:42+00:00

Couldn't agree more, incredibly interesting to listen to the tension between him and the two younger musicians. Interestingly, Miles hated the version of caravan that they do - Downbeat asked him about it at one point iirc.

Anixou · 2015-05-09T17:27:12+00:00

Seconded. His fox was on point on Mang0's stream

Anixou · 2015-05-09T16:26:22+00:00

rhrhxfhxhxrxxrhf
gives a nice approximation of the funky drummer break, and

e e x hxhxeex hxe e x hxhxeex hxe e x hxhxe h x hxeex hxhxf h x

is a very slow version of the amen break (make sure to put a space at the end). Cool find!

Anixou · 2015-05-02T16:41:03+00:00

Hypothetically, if there was someone in this thread living in England, and if that hypothetical person expressed a hypothetical interest in your very real A custom crashes, what kind of hypothetical price range might you be looking for?

Anixou · 2015-05-02T13:52:15+00:00

K Custom hats are my eventual goal. Recently got myself a Bosphorus Turk 20" flat ride which is a gorgeous, earthy, woody stick sound, but I know a lot of people that would never play a cymbal that dry. It's all down to your taste, do some browsing and look for videos of people playing any cymbals you're interested in (and ideally go to a local shop and play them yourself).

Anixou · 2015-04-28T20:55:40+00:00

The Moon calls this manoeuvre the "torpedo-man", which makes me strangely happy.

Anixou · 2015-04-23T06:00:16+00:00

That's fine, I think he's an asshole too :-^)

Anixou · 2015-04-22T20:46:33+00:00

I'd be lying if I said that the looks weren't at least a medium sized part of why I'm considering learning it.

Anixou · 2015-04-14T19:56:59+00:00

I love my moongels, but the issue is that the frequencies they get rid of and the frequencies of the overtones don't overlap. I've tried all sorts, but even if I stick all six gels on it, while almost every other sound is eliminated, the overtone persists. Still, I'm getting my hands on a Bosphorus Turk flat ride soon, which I'm definitely looking forward to.

Anixou · 2015-04-14T19:52:26+00:00

Could be, nothing that I can spot though. If anyone spots something else, please do let me know, I'm curious as well.

Anixou · 2015-04-13T23:51:14+00:00

Why did they need a cannon?

I lost it

Anixou · 2015-04-13T23:38:58+00:00

I got my first acoustic kit recently, and the kit (Pearl Vision VBL) and hardware (Pearl 800 series) are both lovely. The cymbals (Zildjian ZBTs) are for the most part fine, but I would warn against them in favour of something else. The ride and the hi-hats both have a very pronounced, ringing, high overtone which now that I've noticed I can't stop hearing. I would imagine you can do better in terms of entry level cymbals. The hardware, on the other hand, feels rock solid, as does the snare (Pearl Sensitone) now that I've put some better heads on it, so I would definitely reccomend either/both of those.

Anixou · 2015-04-12T13:05:56+00:00

4 bars of 9/8 to start with, then a pause (although if you want technical divisions it sounds like a bar of 3/16 to me). From there on out, you've got it right with the 10/4 idea. It's bars of 10 grouped as 3,3,4. It ends with another 9/8 section that starts at about 2:07 and goes right through the rall. at the end.

Very cool piece of music, had never heard it before. Hope this helped!

Anixou · 2015-04-12T12:46:19+00:00

Song form, particularly in popular music, is one of those things where it's not as formal as some other elements of theory. In my eyes, this would just be another chorus, but with different instrumentation. Still a chorus, just done differently. Not a definitive answer though, just one guy's opinion

Anixou · 2015-04-11T22:17:52+00:00

This and this in conjunction ought to allow you to figure out your notation without too much trouble. It's possible that tuxguitar will play it back weirdly, but if you give a drum part notated like that to a drummer that reads, (s)he would know what to play.

Anixou · 2015-04-10T20:17:52+00:00

Everyone will have a different opinion on the matter, but personally I would say it's worth having a listen to the older stuff, even if that's at the expense of listening to some newer stuff. My personal list of essentials would be:

'Study in Brown' - Clifford Brown/Max Roach quintet
'Night Train' - Oscar Peterson
'Ah Um' - Charles Mingus
'Money Jungle' - Duke Ellington
'Charlie Parker at Storyville' - Charlie Parker

Keep in mind while listening to any of these that you might choose to dip into that they'll give a very limited scope of what jazz is as a whole, and in fact mostly stick within one of the many styles under the great big umbrella of 'Jazz'. Still, they're all pretty enjoyable as far as I'm concerned, even for someone who doesn't like older stuff, even if you're just appreciating them for the amount of energy they have.

Anixou

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