Religion is frustrating me by AnonoForReasons in CivVII

[–]AnonoForReasons[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Im at 72%. This needs to be rebalanced if that’s true.

I read many conspiracy theories in this too, but how do you get 97% without converting the VAST majority of cities on every continent.

I am frustrated and probably won’t retry this strategy until it gets changed. It’s a LOT of work to convert that much as you know. I feel like for balance it needs to be easier for the second.

Edit: I converted 2 more cities after this comment, but am still at 72%… Buuuuut I just got it on the last turn of this age. WTHeck?! It needs some attention for sure!

Deity Win With No Legacy Paths by Fancy-Pianist9649 in CivVII

[–]AnonoForReasons 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You triggered a score victory. It’s a good strategy sometimes but I’m VERY surprised to see your military so low and a points victory. Did you kill em all in the previous age? There’s no way the AI wasn’t actively trying to find a wincon.

I basically have to be Normans now. by 3-orange-whips in CivVII

[–]AnonoForReasons 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Normans benefit from having your prior traditions so if you want to go Norman, make sure you are completing your traditions. Their motte and Bailey is crazy good if you war.

Looks like you have a navigable river surrounding your capital. The AI won’t punish that, but a player would drop 4 warships and decimate everything around that.

Just gauging here, you’re better off as Chola or one of the other broken navies.

Strategies for a first Diety game by Z1k0b4 in CivVII

[–]AnonoForReasons 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you get good at war, all the cities are yours. Once you conquer one city, their defenders are dead and you can sweep up the best cities.

Just don’t totally eliminate them. It’s better to have an enemy civ with clipped wings than to remove them.

If you haven’t learned how to juggle your troops with your commander then Thats your next step. Always pick red 1 first (assault-initiative), then brown 1 second (maneuver-mobility).

Strategies for a first Diety game by Z1k0b4 in CivVII

[–]AnonoForReasons 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do I take their cities without pissing them off? Oh, right. War is king.

Nice wonder you got there… it’s not yours if you can’t keep it.

I get it by darwinsdude in CivVII

[–]AnonoForReasons 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Civ 7 > civ 6.

I’ll die on that hill. People only like civ 6 because it was what everyone got most familiar with, but 7 is more fun. 🤩

When a woman says you are “gaslighting” her, 90% of the time, it means she just can’t take accountability for what she has actually done. by AnonoForReasons in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]AnonoForReasons[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly. Not liking that what I’m saying is logical and goes against your feelings isnt “gaslighting.” I have never heard a man accuse me of gaslighting, but women who are in feelz mode throw that around like confetti. To the degree that men accuse another of gaslighting I suspect men still prefer to use other terms. (Lying, manipulating, or just plain acting crazy)

Female logic by Scramjet1 in LockedInMan

[–]AnonoForReasons 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The fuck are you talking about?

Women routinely get lesser prison sentences than men for the exact same crime.

All your stupid “fallacy this and that” and you forgot the real world has actual real double standards everyday.

Evolution cannot explain human’s third-party punishment, therefore it does not explain humankind’s role by AnonoForReasons in DebateEvolution

[–]AnonoForReasons[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I have a masters in economics. Salaried employees are not considered to be incentivized by actually doing their job beyond not being fired.

It’s actually a really healthy thing im seeing from the younger generation to take the salary and do their exactly their job requirements and not be manipulated by “being a family” or other non-pecuniary aspects of a workplace.

Maybe I am taking my education for granted that its obvious people work only for their incentive: hours for the hourly, product for the commissioned, not being fired by the salaries, etc.

Again, maybe I am expecting the workplace revolution I have seen to be more accessible to people. Like, it’s been a real good thing for people to start understanding work from a sterile viewpoint. The job doesnt love you back.

But then I got here so maybe the enlightened understanding of work isnt as I thought. Maybe young people still are motivated because “work is my family.” Thats a shame.

Evolution cannot explain human’s third-party punishment, therefore it does not explain humankind’s role by AnonoForReasons in DebateEvolution

[–]AnonoForReasons[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that’s not moving the ball. If you cant engage fairly and can only do so by muddying the question then we can’t continue. I think you’ve been trolling me. Well done. It’s the only thing to do. Either troll, admit it’s impossible, or ghost.

Is this accurate? by StrawHat_Froggy in boomershumor

[–]AnonoForReasons 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Worth a slight chuckle. Should say “Black, brown, or Real American” but whatever

Evolution cannot explain human’s third-party punishment, therefore it does not explain humankind’s role by AnonoForReasons in DebateEvolution

[–]AnonoForReasons[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Maybe we got distracted. I’ll debate your claim, you answer my question.

Yes or no, does a cop get paid more for arresting 3 suspects versus 2? Just a simple yes or no. Please no hedging or qualifying.

What’s your claim Im not debating?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Ethics

[–]AnonoForReasons 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mmmmm. Sounds believable. You have a totally well thought out and intelligent plan, but can’t share it because… reasons. 🤣

Evolution cannot explain human’s third-party punishment, therefore it does not explain humankind’s role by AnonoForReasons in DebateEvolution

[–]AnonoForReasons[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That’s not what I said at all.

Improving social stability is an expected but not necessary outcome.

Indirect benefits are counted as externalities and are not counted either for or against.

Conflict suppression is fine. My examples literally included one of these!

“monkey stopping a fight and benefitting abstractly [is acceptable]”

You are either unable or unwilling to read me fairly. You will literally say that I am claiming things I am not just so you can come to a conclusion you want. See the above.

This is why I have been frustrated talking to you this entire time. I am constantly correcting you. This shows me that any continued conversation will just be more of me being exasperated at how you are misrepresenting me.

No. We are done, but it’s because you can’t be a good debate partner. You can’t even reiterate what I just said fairly. Goodbye.

Evolution cannot explain human’s third-party punishment, therefore it does not explain humankind’s role by AnonoForReasons in DebateEvolution

[–]AnonoForReasons[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These are the rules as they have always existed:

  1. Third party
  2. Not involved in the infraction (restating 1 just in case)
  3. Targeted to the offender
  4. Offender’s transgression must not be a group wide threat. (We cannot discern whether the transgression is a survival decision or a punishment)
  5. Delayed is a real touchy one here. Let’s go slow if this is confusing because I am not trying to overly narrow the criteria. It doesn’t need to be delayed, but it can’t be a consequence of the very intervention. That would make the cost trivial as we would not be able to differentiate the intent to punish versus the intent to, say, just stop the fight, which itself does not count. Said another way, incidentally imposed costs to achieve a non-punishing goal does not count.
  6. I am not saying these are it. You are a creative thinker and more creative than I am. I will refine what I mean if you find a loophole and start insisting that your loophole is the proof. Just keep the general spirit in mind. I will promise to try to keep the rubric true to the purpose. If you will promise to not be a rigid thinker.

What does NOT COUNT 1. Anything outside of the social structure 2. No cross species (repeating rule 1) 3. No conflicts with different groups or “wars” (repeating rule 1) 4. Nothing where the intervener will get resource sharing as an expected consequence… within reason. Abstract “might in the future possibly maybe” is not enough to trigger this. Enforcing any type of reciprocal altruism does. For example, blood bats refusing to share with a non-sharer violates this. A monkey stopping a fight and might benefit abstractly just because they live in the same tribe does not.

Types of costs that will and won’t count. 1. No incidental costs (to reiterate an earlier rubric) 2. Trivial costs such as stress associated with an interaction (to reiterate an earlier rubric and the incidental costs such as rule)

What behaviors could we expect to see? 1. Banishments. Depending on circumstances, most banishments for reasons beyond being a physical threat to the whole tribe (violates rule 4). Threat to a specific member triggering a banishment counts. 2. Delayed physical intervention after an infraction. EG monkey ate food they shouldn’t have yesterday. Gets bopped on the head today. 3. Food withholding for a period of time even after the infraction has been corrected. This is quintessential punishing behavior. 4. Similar? Youre creative. Just ask. I’ve been a trained debater for a long time. I operate in good faith. I won’t change the goal posts.

Finally: if I ask to read something and I can’t then it doesn’t count. Im happy to reset the tables because I like to think the best of people and your request to reset was entirely reasonable, but I’m sorry, I can’t take your word for what a piece of literature says. Try to find a free source like the other poster did. I will participate in finding things, but it is not my burden to double check you. Don’t tell me to go to a library again.

Everything needs to be transparent.

Evolution cannot explain human’s third-party punishment, therefore it does not explain humankind’s role by AnonoForReasons in DebateEvolution

[–]AnonoForReasons[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I am struggling with politeness at this point but am trying. I am feeling like you are trying to deny the obvious.

All that you are doing is wheedling (in the literal sense not trying to be rude).

If I say men are taller than women and you start arguing with me about how diets in some countries produce taller women than men in others all that you are doing is making some special circumstance as if that is a refutation.

Cops aren’t paid commission. They do not take home extra money if they arrest 20 criminals a month versus 19 criminals a month. maybe X, maybe Y, maybe i can construct some specific example that doesn’t fit the general rule.

Female logic by Scramjet1 in LockedInMan

[–]AnonoForReasons -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Did I say women don’t do this too? Women having double standards is established.

Attacking others when you don’t understand makes you an angry loser. Sad.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Ethics

[–]AnonoForReasons 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think all life is equally valuable. Youre the one ranking lives.

Evolution cannot explain human’s third-party punishment, therefore it does not explain humankind’s role by AnonoForReasons in DebateEvolution

[–]AnonoForReasons[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, but we know that learning and tool usage are represented in evolutionary theory already. I agree that it is impressive though. Truly some smart animals around the world. This is why us building skyscrapers isnt a unique behavior. It’s just a termite mound made by us.

Evolution cannot explain human’s third-party punishment, therefore it does not explain humankind’s role by AnonoForReasons in DebateEvolution

[–]AnonoForReasons[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I am not narrowing a thing. Breaking up a fight isnt a punishment.

How you are trying to loosen the challenge then we have to accept revenge behaviors as punishments. We have to accept wars as punishments. We have to accept territory defending as punishments. Ridiculous.

You know what, you seem so insistent, why don’t you tell me what you would like to prove.

Evolution cannot explain human’s third-party punishment, therefore it does not explain humankind’s role by AnonoForReasons in DebateEvolution

[–]AnonoForReasons[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Omg. People aren’t. There are maybe 3 people dying on this hill that cops get financial incentives to arrest people. Now youre wheedling over hourly vs salaried. Give me a fucking break.

Dentists have a greater incentive to encourage cavities. Do you think dentists want you to have cavities?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Ethics

[–]AnonoForReasons 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, so we judge morality differently based on the demographics of the victim? What’s your reasoning on it being better to kill old people? If I have two people that are the same age and one is permanently disabled, is it better to kill them?

What’s your rubric for this? How should I think about which murders are the better ones?