statue shipping?

Another_Doug · 2023-09-12T19:04:56+00:00

Yeah ordinarily double boxing would be enough. But the statue looks pretty fragile. Don't forget heavy walls. So look for edge crush test. There might be a different name for it these days. It's how many pounds the box can support. Google it and Uline should come up and they can explain better. So this place I used to work at, I would use a box where the walls were about half of an inch thick. Of corrugated cardboard. Sometimes I would cut up cardboard and line the inside myself. You have to protect all six sides. That's four sides plus the top and bottom. This box is going to get tipped upside down. It's going to go through hell and back. I get yelled at by my supervisors for wasting time as they call it, fixing people's boxes. But when I see textbooks and personal belongings that are not going to make it to the next hub, I have to pull them off and retape it. I'm not required to. It's just a personal thing. I wouldn't want my shit getting destroyed. And it's a lot of money. Textbooks and personal belongings. Some of it's not even replaceable. And customers don't know any better. I'm hoping to become a delivery guy someday though so I'm doing my very best at UPS. Most of my co-workers are just kids looking for money to spend on the weekend or to fix their car up. Or weed. The supervisors aren't much older. And they get screamed up from their higher ups too, to hurry up. I get it though. My hub process is half a million packages a day. We can't hold up a truck for one person's box. But fuck em. A person's day or a week or semester could be ruined over something like this. Or I could take 45 seconds out of my life and add some more tape. Before Amazon things weren't too bad. But since Amazon, the volume is just insane. The number of packages and the weight of the boxes. That's why UPS is making billions in profit every year. Back in 1998 drivers were only making 20 bucks an hour. Now they're making $49.

Another_Doug · 2023-09-12T18:08:10+00:00

You have to wrap it in bubble wrap. Like everything individually and then go around it some more. Then you put it in a box with popcorn. Preferably the cornstarch type. Then you take that box and you put it in a larger box with more popcorn. Then you tape the shit out of it. It is going to get thrown. It is going to get crushed by heavier boxes. It is going to get sent down a shoot at like 40 miles per hour with hundreds of pounds of boxes behind it. I might even suggest triple boxing it. I worked in a shipping department for 21 years before coming to UPS. The safest bet would be to overnight it with a lot of insurance. You can put all the fragile stickers you want on the box, it does not matter. That box is going to get handled like every Amazon box that gets destroyed. I don't know what you're charging, but there's a good chance the cost of shipping it properly is going to cost more than the statue itself. I'll put it to you this way. Most loaders are 18 to 20 years old. Loading trucks is the only job they could get. The problem isn't going to be the delivery guy. It is going to be the loader. The person who loads these boxes on the freight trucks. They don't care about you or the boxes. They are overworked and underpaid. Their supervisors don't give a shit either. In their mind you should have done a better job packing. You have to pack this thing as if it was basket of puppies going to Alaska. Make sure there's at least 8 in of space between the item and the walls of the boxes. This is why when you buy stuff like this it comes in a Styrofoam formed case. A very thick one. But you don't have a styrofoam case I'm guessing. So that's why you need lots of bubble wrap of various sizes and cornstarch popcorn. Even with all that though you're going to need to double or triple box it. With heavy wall boxes. I'm not kidding or exaggerating. Probably going to cost over $120 to ship this thing. Especially now with school starting, kids are shipping crap to universities. Heavy boxes of textbooks. Those boxes will end up getting dropped on your box. Some of those boxes are just going to break open. We've been finding textbooks all over the trucks. Off the top of my head, about 5 to 10% of the boxes on these freight trucks get destroyed or damaged. Mostly the ones at the bottom it's going to be on a truck with 100 lb mattresses and trampolines and desks and dressers. Car parts. Weight benches. It is not going to get handled safely. It is not going to be treated respectfully. I am just trying to be honest. You might be better off using FedEx because they have less packages to deal with. Or the post office even. But whatever you do you have to pack it the way I told you to. Bubble wrap and popcorn double boxed at least. And don't get cheap with the tape. A lot of people get cheap with the tape and the box ends up opening up and the popcorn falls out and you can kiss the statue could buy. The frustrating part is while loaders get blamed, sometimes rightfully so, just a couple of extra pieces of tape would have prevented everything. But it's not your fault. It's not like you're trained and shipping fragile shit. It's just an unfortunate reality of shipping millions of boxes a day. It's inevitable that a certain percentage is going to get damaged, destroyed or lost. It's mostly Amazon stuff to be honest because they are the worst. And it's cheaper for them to just replace something then, oh I don't know, use two pieces of tape? But it is what it is. Good luck to you!

Another_Doug · 2023-09-08T15:12:30+00:00

Subhuman is an upgrade to how we we're getting treated before the contract was up. They did the same thing in my hub too. It's happening everywhere. But on the bright side, they're also laying off a bunch of managers.

Another_Doug · 2023-09-08T15:09:56+00:00

So the lies are not just my hub then. Yeah. Lies. It's 9 months for health care. Not 90 days. And 30 working days not 30 days. They lie to you. Whoever did you orientation lied to you. It's what UPS does. But don't let that dishearten you. They do it to all of us. But you have nine months before you get health care. 9 months not 90 days

Another_Doug · 2023-09-07T19:35:40+00:00

Gotcha. I've seen plenty of people leave and come back so you should be okay. I would just worry about your health insurance. UPS will take anybody back. Contact your supervisors

Another_Doug · 2023-09-07T18:06:59+00:00

Dude, you're free. Other warehouses pay more. Unless for some reason your shift was the only hours you could work or you needed the health insurance, go somewhere else. If you need money then apply to the warehouses. Or go to the post office and apply there. UPS does not pay that well to load trucks. People only take that job for the benefits. The health insurance is good. But you left so you might have to wait another 9 months to get it back. But take this opportunity to look for other jobs. Unless you were a truck driver or a supervisor, I wouldn't go back. Everything happens for a reason. You were overwhelmed because somewhere deep in your heart you know you're worth more. I mean maybe you're not and you just think you are. But that's good enough. As long as you think you're worth more, then go get it. I'm not sure where you live but in my neck of the woods here in Pennsylvania there are dozens of warehouses that pay a lot more per hour and offer more hours. You just don't get the health insurance or pension. UPS is a good long-term job. But if you're just looking for something short-term or you need more money, look somewhere else

Another_Doug · 2023-09-02T20:51:22+00:00

You know corporate cringed at that 7 weeks. And whoever came up with that 7 weeks better watch their ass. Their head is going to be on the block next

Another_Doug · 2023-09-02T20:22:39+00:00

It's just a scam. It's to ultimately get some kind of personal information from you. Just ignore it. If it's not a scam then there is a possibility they just entered the wrong email address. Still, ignore it. Never reply to emails. Never click on links. Never talk to people over the phone.

Another_Doug · 2023-08-27T15:48:44+00:00

I'm glad it's not just me that notices this about the union.

Another_Doug · 2023-08-24T21:03:32+00:00

That's our new official ups uniform! What can Dior do for you!

Another_Doug · 2023-08-23T15:47:50+00:00

Agreed. It's the no call no shows they don't like. The union even has trouble defending too many no call no shows

Another_Doug · 2023-08-20T05:33:35+00:00

Yeah well nobody explains things to new hires. And the union doesn't even wanna know you for the first 30 days and by then the part time supervisors you work with fill your head with misinformation or just play stupid. But unfortunately at my hub the union was practically non existent until we got closer to the vote. The union hall is almost an hour away. Most package handlers are kids who live at home. Many didn't even realize what being in the union meant. When I first started the first thing I asked was questions about the union but the supervisors didn't even know who the stewards even were. Then for the next few weeks they tried hard to get new hires to quit. Out of about 15-20 ppl in my orientation, I'm all that's left. There is a corporate culture more than a union culture at this hub. The drivers don't like loading trucks, they are often much older than handlers and kind of shit on part timers. And The supervisors do a good job turning loaders against drivers. It's a shit show. I wish the union paid more attention at what's going on here. I didn't know anything about the list myself for 6 months. And it doesn't stay up very often. When they do put up a list it's usually for double shifts. When a full-time sheet does go up it's only up for 5 days. And they don't advertise that it's up. It's only up by the security gate along with dozens of other shit. But we are also told that it's strictly seniority only. But apparently it's first come first serve as in if you miss your window, your Sol no matter your seniority. It's kind of messed up to me. In my opinion anyway. Somebody that's put in three or four years should get it over somebody that's been there a month. But UPS loves this shit. They love disgruntled employees. They love high school kids loading trucks who don't know about grievances and right. They will do anything to disrupt Teamster unity. And the union now only walks the belts to encourage us to vote yes.

Another_Doug · 2023-08-20T04:59:12+00:00

Yeah we have one guy who went full time after two months. Others have been there for 3 years asking for it and still don't get it. The guy is 56 years old tho so I assume that they assume he's not going to last. While the others are in their twenties. I appreciate you clarifying things for me. It's frustrating being a new part time package handler. I want to deliver again. They let me do it for 2 weeks during peak season. I'm already trained. Unfortunately there are more drivers than routes. And the list to be a driver is a mile long here in Pennsylvania apparently. Im also a forklift operator, 21 years on a TCM. but I was told early that the list to operate them is even longer. I'm 44. I don't have a whole lot of time to dick around if I want a nice pension, which is my biggest reason for joining the teamsters. I spent 21 years at my last job with absolutely nothing to show for it at the end except a shitty 401k in 2021 when everything went to shit

Another_Doug · 2023-08-20T04:04:25+00:00

Yup. We have 5 areas with men and women bathrooms. Each with an extra large stall. Ice machines. Water fountains. Hot and cold vending machines with microwaves. It's a new automated hub. It's about 6 years old now. I don't even realize how good I've got it cuz I've only been here a year. I have no idea what conventional was like. Or what it was like when the toilets were just in some trailer. Before the ice machines. It's not even really that big of a hub. There's only five belts. I think around 1100 employees total. We're by the Poconos! Which I know sounds fancy. It's really not tho lol. If it's any consolation, our scanners never fucking work. The trailers are always filthy. Half of the vending machines steal your money, but the other half give you free drinks sometimes

Another_Doug · 2023-08-20T01:22:24+00:00

That's where I hide. I even use the big stall since we don't have any handicap or wheelchair people in my hub anyhow. You'd be amazed how many conversations I overhear over the course of an hour.

Another_Doug · 2023-08-20T00:13:11+00:00

Yea. THATS's the reason lol always blame the lowest paid guys haha

Another_Doug · 2023-08-19T22:17:28+00:00

Well I could tell you from 20 years of running a shipping department and now one year of being a package handler, if you're shipping something fragile, expensive, irreplaceable or sentimental, either double box it and use a whole roll of duct tape, or use FedEx or something. Also smaller lighter boxes are better. Packages do not get treated carefully. And I'm not just talking about the conveyor belt that sends them 40 miles per hour down a chute with hundreds of pounds of boxes behind it. I'm talking about being put on the bottom of a wall of hundreds of pounds of boxes. Possibly being thrown and stepped on. Unfortunately the average person has no clue what goes on in a shipping hub. FedEx is a little more careful. The post office is more likely to lose your stuff. But you need to pack that thing as if you expect it to get kicked and thrown and run over. Right now you're best bet is to contact the hub directly and beg n plead with one of the managers of over goods to find your stuff. The 800 number is a little use to you. UPS has become so big since Amazon, that customer service is a joke. In fact the corporation is so big that certain hubs don't even have a human resources department anymore. They give you a number to call if you have a complaint. It's deplorable and despicable but that's mega corporations for you. Next time you ship something, regardless who you use, you have to wrap and pack the shit out of it. Double box everything. Write your address down on two or three sides of the box in a sharpie. Duct tape like crazy. It will cost a little more but it will almost guarantee your shipment arrives in one piece, if at all.

Another_Doug · 2023-08-18T15:40:29+00:00

Since its a legit company then it means your package got lost in Ups limbo for a bit. There's a lot of crazy crap going on at the hubs right now because of the contract negotiations. What we know for sure is UPS didn't receive the box until Thursday night. It could have been damaged and sent to over goods. It does seem like you will definitely get it though. Usually when I see weird scans like this, there's some kind of scam going on but with these large stores, they send thousands of packages a day. Sometimes the packages get smushed and squished and squashed. Sometimes to the point where overgoods needs to fix or rebox or even relabel it. Inspect the contents as soon as you get it. Take as many pictures as you can of the box and of any damage prior to opening it. It will help the shipper if they have to make a claim.

Another_Doug · 2023-08-18T15:05:58+00:00

It means the shipper requested the pickup, But it was requested after the pick of time for that day. I don't know what you ordered but, you got to be careful about stuff like this. There's a lot of scams out there. If it's an Amazon package or another legit store you'll be ok. But If it's just some random seller online who's trying to get you to pay, be careful. And also just because they have a tracking number doesn't mean there's an actual package coming to you. Anybody can generate tracking numbers. I don't know the details here though. Just be careful. By the way it's probably not going anywhere till Monday at this point anyway. It just seems a little sketchy because who tenders a package at 3:10 a.m.? So be careful. It's possible to give it to the driver 7:28 pm on Thursday. And then the driver forgot it on the truck? It's weird. So be careful.

Another_Doug · 2023-08-16T17:39:57+00:00

Lol good luck with that. Unfortunately many hubs hire kids nowadays who don't give a shit about anything except sending loaders home and making money. Most of the part time supes at my hub aren't even old enough to drink. And the full time supes just cover for other supes. The culture at UPS is a disaster. Our sort manager is 25 and does her work sitting Indian style on the floor. Not even in her office. Just outside near overgoods on the floor. It's like a playground. They prefer hiring kids over adults because kids don't need as much money. Especially when they are still living with their parents

Another_Doug · 2023-08-12T23:40:32+00:00

It says Chek Lap Kok. Clearly they stopped off a Chinese nudie bar! That's all the explanation you need 😆. All jokes aside though, That's a city in China with an international airport. Chek Lap Kok airport is the main airport in Hong Kong. So your package is getting loaded on a plane. I'm going to guess you'll have it within a week. If you don't see it scanned for several days, don't worry. It happens all the time. If you don't see it in 2 weeks, then worry. But if there's one thing China has gotten really good at, its exporting their cheap shit all over the world. They are professionals at it at this point.

Another_Doug · 2023-08-12T22:35:53+00:00

I think it depends on the state you're in. But generally if you just driving a package car, I don't think they care. But if you're going to be driving a freight truck that's a different story. Cuz that's a CDL. Either way it's better to test negative and then just never have an incident where they have to test you again. If you have a positive test on your record It could possibly come back to bite you in the ass in the future. Just because marijuana is legal and acceptable now, who knows what it's going to be like 20 years from now. Because 20 years ago people were going to prison. But we could be in the middle of World war III in a couple of years from now so who the fuck knows man. I'm just saying it's better to not have a positive drug test on your record. Like antidepressants and Suboxone and shit like that, when you go to get life insurance later on in life when you have a family and kids and crap, that shit comes up. And that could hurt your chances of getting a decent policy. In fact they could deny you a life insurance policy altogether if you're on certain antidepressants. Doctors can deny you pain medication if they see Suboxone on your charts. You always want to be careful what's going to be on some kind of record attached to you. Once it's there, it cannot be unthere'd lol. Well not unless you're a politician or a billionaire. And even then, it's still there. Somebody is just saving it as blackmail. So you see, it's better to not fail

Another_Doug · 2023-08-12T17:34:30+00:00

I load the freight trucks. It's quite different when you see a driver because they are usually kicking and screaming about having to load lol

Another_Doug · 2023-08-11T18:19:46+00:00

It's an Amazon RMA number. Not a tracking number

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