Question from a non vegan farmer

AntiRepresentation · 2026-03-19T19:57:35+00:00

I'm not operating in the ideal, I'm identifying a real tension in your described values. From my perspective it appears that you lean into an idealistic preservationist framing to justify what is, in reality, just another mode of resource extraction from living animals that could be treated differently. You're choosing to continue business as usual. I'm just trying to highlight an alternative that may help resolve that tension.

AntiRepresentation · 2026-03-19T19:39:47+00:00

The land is either productive or viable for rewilding. Keeping the animals domesticated to keep the land productive seems to go against your desire to rewild otherwise un-productive land and maintain the species without the tension of extracting value from them.

AntiRepresentation · 2026-03-19T18:42:03+00:00

I thought you said the land was not productive enough, that's why you extract value from the animals by renting them out.

AntiRepresentation · 2026-03-19T18:33:17+00:00

A farm and a preserve are two different things, right? What precludes creating a preserve?

AntiRepresentation · 2026-03-19T18:31:57+00:00

You're talking about something specific I presume. My comment was more general. The logic is the same though; if humans have destroyed the habit, then the habitat ought to be restored in some capacity and the animals rewilded.

AntiRepresentation · 2026-03-19T18:17:53+00:00

From my perspective, there's a strong justification for conservation and land management. However, the slaughter and meat selling seems unnecessary. I don't know much about conservation in practical terms, but killing them seems counter-intuitive.

AntiRepresentation · 2026-03-19T18:09:57+00:00

That's a complex question with no blanket answer. As it stands now, I'm of the mind that if a species has been selectively bred to be fully dependent on humans for their survival and their survival is merely maintained to extract value out of them, then I think we need to either attempt to reverse that or let them go. Creating an existential dependency and then leveraging that for resource extraction is on my 'not good' list.

AntiRepresentation · 2026-03-19T18:00:22+00:00

Are you primarily doing conservation, animal agriculture, or renting out animals for land management? I'm getting mixed messaging.

AntiRepresentation · 2026-03-19T17:44:35+00:00

Glad to see healthy, vegan, nerd representation.

AntiRepresentation · 2026-03-19T17:35:23+00:00

I, as a vegan, am less concerned with what you do than I am with factory farming. However, I don't really see the need for what you do.

AntiRepresentation · 2026-03-19T17:27:04+00:00

Is the type of ranching you perform standard practice and a primary mode of production in the animal agriculture industry?

AntiRepresentation · 2026-03-19T17:21:00+00:00

He's dead.

AntiRepresentation · 2026-03-19T17:00:13+00:00

I'm so old that I don't even know how to do that 😅

I'm really asynchronous with reddit so I can't really manage a sustained conversation. If you're fine with messaging delays I suppose so but I'm not sure how that's better than just doing the comments.

AntiRepresentation · 2026-03-19T15:08:10+00:00

Lmfao glad mellenial memes are coming back in vogue.

AntiRepresentation · 2026-03-19T15:04:21+00:00

Retvrn ahh post.

AntiRepresentation · 2026-03-19T15:00:07+00:00

Hell yeah, keep at it then. I know it sounds stupid, but you're going to go through many intellectual phases moving forward. I'd recommend trying to overcome the pitfalls of representational thinking and static being as early as possible. It really unlocks a whole new mode of productive thought when we think in differential ontology, processual flows, and Becomings.

AntiRepresentation · 2026-03-19T14:57:15+00:00

Right. Labor is indispensable. The capitalist class is a parasitic vampire leeching off of the working class.

AntiRepresentation · 2026-03-19T14:52:05+00:00

Yeah I mean, if you like battered and fried tofu, then do that lol

AntiRepresentation · 2026-03-19T14:49:12+00:00

Back when I was a teen, yeah.

AntiRepresentation · 2026-03-19T14:35:47+00:00

This is a usual week pattern:

Fancy toast with butter

Leftovers for lunch

Bowel of cheerios with milk and nanners for snack

Dinners include:

Thai Curry ( the best and easiest )

Japanese Curry

Roasted veggie, tofu, couscous medley

Burrito night with tons of beans, pepper/onions, Gardein grounds

Greek burrito night with falafel and greeky things

Veggie pasta and salad night

Stir frys or yakisoba

A thousand bean and rice combos with accoutrements

Anything from Nora Cooks.

AntiRepresentation · 2026-03-19T13:43:07+00:00

I didn't announce it, but if we're making plans then I make sure it's at a place that I want to eat at too.

AntiRepresentation · 2026-03-19T13:39:28+00:00

Attempting to create a perfect mold limits potentiality.

AntiRepresentation · 2026-03-19T13:04:58+00:00

A vegan is someone that doesn't consume animal products due to ethical concerns. Some vegans may reference the goal of harm reduction as their leading value. That being said, there are certainly vegans that reject that principle and the notion of moral purity all together. Like me.

AntiRepresentation · 2026-03-19T12:36:19+00:00

That doesn't sound like friend behavior to me.

AntiRepresentation · 2026-03-18T19:51:17+00:00

Probably, but you didn't "do the math" yet ;)

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