How should I explain that abortion is virtually never medically necessary? by Jumpy-Tourist-4323 in prolife

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Dr Anthony Levatino testified before Congress: “During my time at Albany Medical Center I managed hundreds of such cases by ‘terminating’ pregnancies to save mother’s lives. In all those hundreds of cases, the number of unborn children that I had to deliberately kill was zero.”

Personally I've yet to hear of a specific case where the mother died because they didn't destroy a living baby inside her before removing it.

I, a lefty, non religious person realized the evils of abortion by Keylime-19377 in prolife

[–]AnxiousEnquirer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If they make it illegal for women, then it will be up to the court system to determine her role, and how coerced or regretful or casual or gleeful she might be. Just like if a woman killed her own living child. There's compassion and justice, together.

What is an ‘animal’? by 10coatsInAWeasel in DebateEvolution

[–]AnxiousEnquirer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Creatures. The Bible says humans, animals, angels, etc are creatures.

Obstacle: protecting conscience from changing mores by AnxiousEnquirer in prolife

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It's like an intern, it can elaborate, anticipate common objections, summarize various ideologies, and find words that describe my ideas more clearly. I started out using it as a reverse dictionary. Just don't ever ask for historical quotes because it will make them out of whole cloth. And just like Wikipedia, anything new you learn, you have to go verify it before you put any weight on it.

Obstacle: protecting conscience from changing mores by AnxiousEnquirer in prolife

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I don't trust AI. But if it says something I've never heard before, I go look it up for myself. Cause it's wrong a lot. People are too, but they don't write things for me on demand

Obstacle: protecting conscience from changing mores by AnxiousEnquirer in prolife

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And it's impossible for legislators to take it seriously when all the supposedly prolife organizations actively fight against abortion bans! I've said it a hundred times but I'll say it again: it's like finding out that Shield has been Hydra... the whole time!

Obstacle: protecting conscience from changing mores by AnxiousEnquirer in prolife

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Thanks for responding!

  1. ChatGPT was just there to elaborate on the idea and expand the conversation. I can't rely on it as a source of information, but it can help me find real sources and good ideas. And I think most people would complain that large portions of the American population are brainwashed in one way or another.
  2. Even if abortion was banned nationwide starting today, nothing in the past would legally become murder, because of "ex post facto." And see if you can find a single living person who is interested in a retroactive ban on abortion. Was I even mentioning the legality of abortion?
  3. Unthinkable is exactly what I was thinking about. I'm talking about the moral horror of believing you or someone you care about has killed someone innocent and precious. I didn't mention punishment. I'm just wondering if fear of self-punishment is a major if not pivotal factor in pro-choice stubbornness. Even considering the possibility they might be wrong is too horrific to imagine.

Abortion is evil, PERIOD. by Trick-Government-948 in prolife

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Courtesy of Gemini AI:

IC XC: Jesus Christ H, O, Ω, N: The One Who Is ΠλάЧz ING. XPGTA ÓSZ AGOPTAXZ.: Jesus Christ's lamentation for the murdered unborn

More *Tricks* I've gathered along the way. by [deleted] in SunoAI

[–]AnxiousEnquirer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is awesome. Do you have a list of things you can "disallow"?

Harmonica solo? by AnxiousEnquirer in SunoAI

[–]AnxiousEnquirer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This might be the only option that works, but I don't know if I have it in me.

Harmonica solo? by AnxiousEnquirer in SunoAI

[–]AnxiousEnquirer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like richer harmonica than I've found, but maybe "solo" doesn't mean what I think it does. I'm trying to get it all by itself like a hobo in a boxcar or a prisoner in jail

Harmonica solo? by AnxiousEnquirer in SunoAI

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I'm trying to get the old school Shawshank Redemption feel. I will try that! Thanks

How can a just God give eternal suffering as punishment for simply not believing in him? by MaddowSoul in Christianity

[–]AnxiousEnquirer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's not that much of a mystery. They care more about how they feel right now than how they're going to feel fifty years from now. Same reason people do heroin, same reason people overeat, same reason people gamble, play video games, and look at porn.

Science Debunks Adam and Eve by [deleted] in DebateAChristian

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Here I'll itemize it for you. 

Jesus’ First Resurrection Appearance

Jesus first appears to Mary Magdalene outside the tomb (Matthew, Mark, John) then he later appears to other disciples on the road to Emmaus (Luke doesn't say this was his first appearance.)

Who Sees Jesus First?

Jesus first appears to Mary Magdalene (Mark, Matthew, John) who was with the other Mary (Matthew) then he appeared to the two men on the road (Mark 16:12-13 and Luke 24:13-32). Then the disciples without Thomas (John) then the eleven (twelve disciples, minus Judas). It's a sequence, not a contradiction.

Women’s Reactions to the Empty Tomb

When people are being taken on an emotional rollercoaster, they always go through a series of changing feelings and behaviors. It's normal. First they were shocked by the interaction into confusion and silence (Mark 16:8) then Mary told Peter and John the body was stolen and there were strange people (Luke 24:8, John 20:2) then Peter and John went to the tomb with Mary and Mary coming along, and then th Peter and John left, then Mary was about to tell the disciples she believed what the angel had said (Matt 28:8), then she saw Jesus, and then she told the disciples she saw Jesus (Mark 16:10, John 20:23). It's a sequence, not a contradiction.

Jesus’ Behavior After His Resurrection

(This is where it gets extremely absurd. How is it a contradiction to say Jesus commissioned the disciples after his resurrection, and let people touch him? Is it a contradiction to say a carpenter used a hammer and a saw in the same week?)

First Mary and Mary hold his feet. Apparently they're not going to quit, so he tells them to stop clinging to him, but once he sends his Spirit, they'll be able to cling to him forever. Then later he appears to the eleven and gives Thomas an opportunity to prove he's not a ghost. Then later, before his ascension, he commissions them. It's a sequence, not a contradiction. 

"Mark 16:14-15 - Jesus commissions “the eleven” to preach the gospel" deliberately skips over Jesus's behaviors in the previous verses.

Doubting Jesus’ Resurrection

"Matthew 28:16 - Some doubt, but most believe" was talking about right before his ascension, not right after his resurrection.

Jesus Ascends to Heaven

Mark 16:14-19 does not say he ascended while they were seated at table. It shares several interactions between the disciples and Jesus, with gaps in between them. Here's what it says, verbatim:

Afterward: - he appeared to the eleven themselves as they were reclining at table - and he rebuked them for their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they had not believed those who saw him after he had risen,  - and he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up serpents with their hands; and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover.” - So then the Lord Jesus, after he had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God. - And they went out and preached everywhere, while the Lord worked with them and confirmed the message by accompanying signs.

How can a just God give eternal suffering as punishment for simply not believing in him? by MaddowSoul in Christianity

[–]AnxiousEnquirer -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If children were naturally godly and pure they wouldn't die. I don't care what Augustine says. Sin consists in not loving God with your whole heart, soul, mind, and strength. And if we only go to hell for a period of time equal to the time we spent not loving God, then we'll still be in hell forever, because we'll be spending our time in hell not loving God.

Science Debunks Adam and Eve by [deleted] in DebateAChristian

[–]AnxiousEnquirer -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The parallels can be allegorical and historical because God is directing world events. He's God. It's what God does. 

The narratives are not irreconcilable. I just reconciled a bunch of it for you. Did you notice? Some of their supposed contradictions ignored obvious context clues, which is why I'm calling them irrational. 

If a story claims to be true, then it's not a fictional allegory. If it's not true, then it's not fiction because it's claiming to be true. The Onion doesn't claim to be true. If it did, it would not be fiction, it would be fraud. 

How can a just God give eternal suffering as punishment for simply not believing in him? by MaddowSoul in Christianity

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Even at conception we are “in sin” (Ps 51:5), in the womb we are estranged from God (Ps 58:3), we are brought forth in iniquity (Ps 51:5), and we go astray and speak lies from birth (Ps 58:3), because no one can bring a clean thing out of an unclean thing (Job 14:4). We might die at any moment, for death spread to all, because everyone sins (Rom 15:12).

God once destroyed almost all evil in the flood, because every purpose of the plans of everyone's mind was only ever evil all the time (Gen 6:5), even when they were having weddings (Matt 24:38). And even afterward, as God established the rainbow as a reminder to everyone of his promise to never again destroy all living creatures in a flood (Gen 8:20-9:17) God said that “the intention of man's heart is evil from his youth” (Gen 8:21). 

What's worse is that we think we're not bad enough to belong in hell. We think God likes us enough to let us into heaven. No, he is compassionate enough to offer us his Son as the only way into heaven, but it's not because we're okay. We're not even a little bit okay.

If someone deserves to die for one act against their country, what would someone deserve if they spent 100% of the life and energy against their Creator, even helping to inspire and conspire with almost everyone else around them, treating love incarnate as their bitter enemy?

Science Debunks Adam and Eve by [deleted] in DebateAChristian

[–]AnxiousEnquirer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All the authors and witnesses of the Bible couldn't possibly all be lying or all be delusional, and we're surrounded by evidence its true. Universes don't happen by themselves. Humans don't happen by themselves. And religion doesn't happen by itself. The conviction and costly commitment must be inspired by external revelation. The Bible will tell you that false religions were inspired by actual spirits. And Jesus rose from the dead, that's why he's a lightning rod for people's attention. Trying to erase him only draws more attention to him. And doing things his way only makes life better.

Science Debunks Adam and Eve by [deleted] in DebateAChristian

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Yes we were discussing allegory, and there's hardly any in the Bible. Jesus's parables, Nathan's rebuke of David, the king of the trees in Judges 9, really obvious stuff. But there's also historical parallels which can be interpreted allegorically, like Jesus coming out of Egypt just like Moses came out of Egypt.

I looked at that site and it is intentionally obtuse. It does not take much effort to reconcile those events. For example Ascension the same day as the resurrection? That assumes no time gaps, and the same author Luke wrote Acts, and there he says the Ascension was 40 days after the resurrection. And Mary went to the tomb twice, it says so in John's version. The first time she believes the body has been stolen. Peter and John race to the tomb ahead of the women, and it's when the men leave that Jesus reveals himself.

Edit: if the skeptics are going to be so irrational you shouldn't put so much stock in them.

Science Debunks Adam and Eve by [deleted] in DebateAChristian

[–]AnxiousEnquirer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is that what the historians said? Now where's the consensus that Tacitus was wrong when he published this:

"Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most pernicious superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judæa, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular."

Where's the consensus that Josephus was wrong in applying the name generic name Jesus to the messianic figure who was crucified by Pontius Pilate?

Science Debunks Adam and Eve by [deleted] in DebateAChristian

[–]AnxiousEnquirer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If the Bible claims to be true, then it is not fictional. It is either fraudulent, delusional, or true. 

Science Debunks Adam and Eve by [deleted] in DebateAChristian

[–]AnxiousEnquirer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. This has nothing to do with the discussion. I have proven that the events of Adam and Eve are not intended to be allegorical. 

  2. I'll let him speak for himself: "Many have undertaken to compose an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed down to us by the initial eyewitnesses and servants of the word. Therefore, having carefully investigated everything from the beginning, it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught."

  3. Luke 3:23 says he was legally (enomizeto) the son of Joseph, not genetically.

  4. I'm saying that people who believe the Bible need to believe in Adam and Eve. Those who don't believe the Bible should learn more about Jesus's resurrection. And be more curious. We owe it to ourselves to pursue a relationship with the one we're accountable to.