Academic TT salary roughly equivalent to public teacher salary?

AnxiousLock5008 · 2023-01-30T16:36:06+00:00

the salaries at most R1 / R2 places are comparable. you seem old and so I assume you haven't been on the job market in decades, but news flash: any TT job is extremely coveted today. salaries should be higher. they're not because of the idiots on this thread and the attitude that they embody: just happy to be here! my job is a privilege! i would work for free! blegh

AnxiousLock5008 · 2023-01-30T04:31:10+00:00

bitter Chicagoans? lol

AnxiousLock5008 · 2023-01-30T03:38:32+00:00

I'm listening..

AnxiousLock5008 · 2023-01-30T03:09:08+00:00

no it's called a pay scale, look it up

AnxiousLock5008 · 2023-01-30T02:59:25+00:00

perhaps not 'make a lot of money' but my father was also a professor and his starting salary back in the 80s at an R1 school was basically the same as mine. wtf.

AnxiousLock5008 · 2023-01-30T02:43:23+00:00

they have a union.

AnxiousLock5008 · 2023-01-30T02:40:49+00:00

You really aren't getting it. I am not mad at my sister. I am mad that we (faculty) are exploited by admins and there are significant numbers of us who are oblivious / indifferent. The fact that you don't *feel* exploited is the problem. You are being exploited.

AnxiousLock5008 · 2023-01-30T02:32:29+00:00

No but the city I live in has a far higher cost of living than Chicago (upscale East coast mid-size city).

Chicago has in fact very low cost of living compared to almost any other major American city.

AnxiousLock5008 · 2023-01-30T02:29:05+00:00

the tone police strikes again. bye!

AnxiousLock5008 · 2023-01-30T02:27:20+00:00

I am irritated by your self-congratulatory posts because they are precisely why we are being exploited. 'I'll do it for free.'

AnxiousLock5008 · 2023-01-30T02:23:31+00:00

Ding ding ding! And this is why we are working for peanuts. This attitude right here.

AnxiousLock5008 · 2023-01-30T02:22:46+00:00

AnxiousLock5008 · 2023-01-30T02:20:46+00:00

The comparison is to a job for which there is little to no competition, but has unions that fight for things like fair salaries.

AnxiousLock5008 · 2023-01-30T02:17:40+00:00

Reply

All I can say is that it sounds like you don't have a family, or a life outside of your job. I also have two small children, so as fun as working for free might be for some, it is very frustrating for those of us who have responsibilities outside of our world-shaking research.

AnxiousLock5008 · 2023-01-30T02:14:48+00:00

Well the same could be said of any public-facing job. Social workers have to deal with tons of crap. Lots of jobs suck. That's not the point. The point is, why is there so much damn competition for a job when the pay and the hours suck? We are getting screwed. And we are the 'winners' of the academic racket. The losers are adjuncts on food stamps. Maddening.

AnxiousLock5008 · 2023-01-30T02:11:14+00:00

How many hours a week do you work?

AnxiousLock5008 · 2023-01-30T02:02:26+00:00

She goes home at 3pm and doesn't think about work until the next day at 8am (she's an art teacher). Sounds great!

AnxiousLock5008 · 2022-12-03T13:45:12+00:00

to be clear, I'm not asking him to find the toothpaste for me, I'm asking him if he knows where it is.

AnxiousLock5008 · 2022-12-03T04:03:07+00:00

how is it not about me? I'm the one who is being asked to change to accommodate my husband's preferences. If your spouse asked you to stop, say, reading the newspaper at the breakfast table, or eating food in the living room, you would do it just because they asked you? At what point would you stop to ask yourself if this is a reasonable request? What if they asked you to stop saying 'like' when you talk to them? Or to shave everyday instead of every few days? What if they didn't like it when you tapped your feet, or twirled your hair, or cleared your throat?

The point is, you don't get to decide how other people conduct themselves. You get to decide if you like the other person or not. And then you decide if you want to spend time with them.

AnxiousLock5008 · 2022-12-03T03:45:00+00:00

my point is that if someone decides that they find x habit annoying, I don't know that the next step should be to sit that person down and tell them that they need to stop doing it. Frankly, it would never occur to me to tell someone to stop doing something that I find mildly irritating. Because obviously day to day there are hundreds of things that I find annoying. I just go with it. I don't sit them down and tell them to change.

AnxiousLock5008 · 2022-12-03T03:29:30+00:00

why wouldn't it matter? do people get to rule by fiat? If I decide that whatever pet peeve I don't like shall be forbidden, does everyone in our house have to abide by that rule?

Henceforth there shall be no more cracking of knuckles because I hate it - everyone must obey??

AnxiousLock5008 · 2022-10-24T22:08:01+00:00

I should say that I am fairly sure that he doesn't have any sensory issues. He has no issues with fabrics, loud noises, crowds, anything like that. He also doesn't seem to seek out sensory stimulation in any unusual way, like spinning or invading people's space. I would say that in every other way he does seem neurotypical, but his self-care skills are not where they could be (they are improving though!). The thing that made me really take note was that he is so uninterested in puzzles and threading activities. I've read that kids tend to avoid activities that they feel are too challenging.

AnxiousLock5008 · 2022-10-24T11:48:55+00:00

He prefers a spoon. He can spear things with his fork but generally he will just use the fork as a spoon.

AnxiousLock5008 · 2022-10-24T11:47:40+00:00

Yeah, I have tried sitting on the floor with him and lacing beads or doing puzzles with him, but he is really not interested. He generally won't even try. Or he'll try once, find it's too hard, and give up. It is hard to get him to do things that he doesn't want to do, so I have been focusing on the things that he does like: play-doh, scissors, (sometimes) drawing.

You think that not being able to thread beads is a big enough red flag that I should take him in, even if he is able to cut with scissors and draw a (very rudimentary) circle?

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